US Governor orders gun & ammo seizures!

[holdover]

The Hurricane is predicted to hit the Islands by Friday, lets see where everybody's priority's lie,IS the National guard going to assist people or are they going to confiscate weapons? Or are they going to help them by taking their guns? Im sure everybody is going to run down and turn their weapons in just before the storm hits and hope nobody trys to harm them for a can of tuna fish. WTF is this guy thinking?

 

[Bigfoot]

Seems to me that the U.S. Virgin Islands Gov. Kenneth Mapp is more of a danger to the people than the hurricane itself.

As the old saying goes,
If guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns...

 

[speedkills27]

Hopefully there will be some stiff resistance.

Starting with the national guard

 

[Celt]

Are they going to shoot the hurricane out of the sky or something?

Not with a 9mm, but a .45....maybe..



And that would be over my dead body. If that ever happens here like it did during Hurricane Katrina there would be a major problem.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Not with a 9mm, but a .45....maybe..

No. You need speed to penetrate. But then again, the heavy bullet from the .45 would drift less in the wind. I'm torn. Maybe he can throw Sig P 320's at it. You'll only have to throw the gun once and it'll shoot the whole magazine as it drops and bangs around in the wind tunnel.

 

[Doc8404]

So WTF is trump and the DOJ doing?
This?
Statues.
Destruction of government property.
Terrorism by US citizens.

Holder, Obama and Lynch never had a problem chasing us

 

[S&W Fan]

US Virgin Islands........As of the 2010 census, [7] the population comprised the following ethnic groups:

Governor Kenneth E. Mapp - U.S. Virgin Islands | Governor Kenneth E. Mapp

Black or African American 76 %
White 15.7%
Asian 1.4%
Other 4.9%
Mixed 2.1%

So why isn't the race card being played? Why aren't there protests in the streets over this blatantly racist Gouvernor. Form the above stats it's obvious why he has called for the seizure of all firearms ahead of the coming storm.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

If he gets away with this, it sets an extremely dangerous precedent that our douchenozzle mainland governors will be sure to duplicate.

 

[enigma]

NRA threatens lawsuit after US Virgin Islands governor orders weapons seizure

 

[Darth]

NRA threatens lawsuit after US Virgin Islands governor orders weapons seizure

What a WASTE!

 

[VietnamEraVet]

NRA threatens lawsuit after US Virgin Islands governor orders weapons seizure

Threatening to file is one thing.

If the NRA was on the ball, they would have filed the lawsuit, along with asking for an injunction, and an immediate court hearing due to the urgent nature of it by this afternoon, and been waving copies of it at a news conference.

What a worthless gesture.

 

[Acer-m14]

@VietnamEraVet
Governor Kenneth E. Mapp - U.S. Virgin Islands | Governor Kenneth E. Mapp

Black or African American 76 % ding ding ding ... you would think the ACLU too ... but you know ....
White 15.7%
Asian 1.4%
Other 4.9%
Mixed 2.1%

 

[Truebeliever]

The way I read the order, the question is Why hasn't the press reported that this guy just declared marshal law.

He is committing a crime under federal law as well.

Or at least violating the law and perhaps a civil rights violation under Heller.

 

[Acer-m14]

The way I read the order, the question is Why hasn't the press reported that this guy just declared marshal law.

He is committing a crime under federal law as well.

Or at least violating the law and perhaps a civil rights violation under Heller.

Take guns and ammo what MSM press will report that ??? nodda

 

[Bob]

This is clearly a violation of US Federal law. It is little-known that a provision of the 2007 Stafford Act was enacted in response to Katrina to prevent this very thing from happening.

(a) Prohibition on confiscation of firearms
No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of Federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may—

(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;
(2) require registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by Federal, State, or local law;
(3) prohibit possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law; or
(4) prohibit the carrying of firearms by any person otherwise authorized to carry firearms under Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in support of relief from the major disaster or emergency.

(b) Limitation
Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or evacuation.

It states right in the text of the act that it is applicable to the entire United States and its territories, to include the USVI.
https://www.fema.gov/pdf/about/stafford_act.pdf

 

[BerettaGuy]

This could never happen in NY, unless they had a database of the guns in our possession, no wait....

 

[livingston]

 

[Robin]

"You never thought you would do this in your own country"
"You don't want to think about what you might have to do"
"Like shoot an American?"
"Yeah"

How about you refuse to obey an unlawful order!!!! That should give you a certain degree of inner peace through resolve!
Robin

 

[livingston]

 

[Calculon]

"You never thought you would do this in your own country"
"You don't want to think about what you might have to do"
"Like shoot an American?"
"Yeah"

How about you refuse to obey an unlawful order!!!! That should give you a certain degree of inner peace through resolve!
Robin

I would like this 100x if I could. If the guard fired on American citizens I think all bets are off from that point forward

 

[Marine Cpl]

I've been saying for a while now that the National Guard will do as ordered as evidenced in that video. It is composed of 18 to 20 year olds who have no idea what the Constitution is. To them it's just something that was talked about in school. The 25 year old lieutenants that know better will still do so to keep advancing their careers. Any who refuse will be replaced by a lower rank.

 

[livingston]

Gun laws in the United States Virgin Islands - Wikipedia
The U.S. Virgin Islands have a stringent and restrictive licensing process to purchase or carry a firearm. A person must be 21 to get a non-carry weapons license, along with several other requirements. Applicants must pay $75 licensing fee, submit a signed application, be fingerprinted and photographed, and be of good moral character. That process is just for a permit to purchase firearms to store in a residence or business, and not for a concealed carry permit. There are six types of licenses:

• Blue, Business Protection
• Yellow, Home protection and handguns only
• Gray, farming and long guns only
• White, all active law enforcement
• Pink, current and retired law enforcement, personal protection, and special circumstances
• Green, target shooting, sports use and home protection

To qualify [for any of the above] you must belong to a gun club. To acquire a concealed carry permit, or “Pink” permit, a person must meet a specific set of criteria. To apply, you must either be a government employee, valuable goods carrier, firearms manufacturer, or be a bona fide resident or business person of the islands. You must prove you have good reason to fear death or great injury to your person or property and present at least two affidavits from credible persons who attest to that need. Due to this process, in most cases concealed carry permit applications are denied for normal resident applicants unless in grave circumstances.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Gun laws in the United States Virgin Islands - Wikipedia
The U.S. Virgin Islands have a stringent and restrictive licensing process to purchase or carry a firearm. A person must be 21 to get a non-carry weapons license, along with several other requirements. Applicants must pay $75 licensing fee, submit a signed application, be fingerprinted and photographed, and be of good moral character. That process is just for a permit to purchase firearms to store in a residence or business, and not for a concealed carry permit. There are six types of licenses:

• Blue, Business Protection
• Yellow, Home protection and handguns only
• Gray, farming and long guns only
• White, all active law enforcement
• Pink, current and retired law enforcement, personal protection, and special circumstances
• Green, target shooting, sports use and home protection

To qualify [for any of the above] you must belong to a gun club. To acquire a concealed carry permit, or “Pink” permit, a person must meet a specific set of criteria. To apply, you must either be a government employee, valuable goods carrier, firearms manufacturer, or be a bona fide resident or business person of the islands. You must prove you have good reason to fear death or great injury to your person or property and present at least two affidavits from credible persons who attest to that need. Due to this process, in most cases concealed carry permit applications are denied for normal resident applicants unless in grave circumstances.

When I read that on handgunlaw.us, my first thought was "what anti-gun whack job concocted all this bullshit"? CA, NY, NJ and a few other states have nothing on them in this regard.

 

[dsdmmat]

When I read that on handgunlaw.us, my first thought was "what anti-gun whack job concocted all this bullshit"? CA, NY, NJ and a few other states have nothing on them in this regard.

and they get away with it because the people on the island don't know any better.

 

[masterswimmer]

Due to this process, in most cases concealed carry permit applications are denied for normal resident applicants unless in grave circumstances.

So please tell me who needs a gun in the grave?

 

[speedkills27]

god that Katrina/NOLA footage is infuriating

 

[freddy]

This could never happen in NY, unless they had a database of the guns in our possession, no wait....

Go on now and git yersef some 80% lowers!

 

[@thewheels]

NRA threatens lawsuit after US Virgin Islands governor orders weapons seizure

Oh no! Not a threat!

 

[Celt]

NRA threatens lawsuit after US Virgin Islands governor orders weapons seizure

I lost faith in the nra after the unsafe was allowed to stand. It should have been sooner because their lack of effort in ny is what made our politicians as bold as they are to even pull a fucked up stunt like they did.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I lost faith in the nra after the unsafe was allowed to stand. It should have been sooner because their lack of effort in ny is what made our politicians as bold as they are to even pull a fucked up stunt like they did.

I agree. For example. Because of Alan Gura and the 2A Foundation, D.C. and Chicago will not try to further anymore anti gun laws. At least for the time being. He did all that against the NRA's wishes. Anyone can look that up in regards to the NRA pleading with him to drop the case.