Dr. Evil
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Limited strike on Syrian air base where chemical weapons are stored, with tomahawk missiles(43) is being reported on Fox. I guess Trump had a different red line than Obummer.
US Launches Airstrikes In Syria
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Steal2B
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43 tomahawks limited strikes on chem weapon sights. God bless our troops.
Steal2B
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Dr. Evil
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60 missiles now reported from 2 Navy destroyers. Chemical weapon depots and landing strips.
Dr. Evil
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Trump speaking shortly. Unfortunately I am currently listening to that putz Sheppard Smith.
Burzum
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Too bad, a false-flag phony gas attack duped Trump. Dr. Ron Paul gave the best response, wait and get the facts-Assad has
no reason to use poison gas and the cameras chronicling it were too conveniently present in a war zone.
This is just so the Beltway Neo-cons can jack off to destroying another country, I gather Libya and Iraq were not enough for their bloodlust.
no reason to use poison gas and the cameras chronicling it were too conveniently present in a war zone.
This is just so the Beltway Neo-cons can jack off to destroying another country, I gather Libya and Iraq were not enough for their bloodlust.
Steal2B
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This is a very limited and focused strike of about 25 tons of munitions at part of one airbase where the chem attack originated. The five larger Syrian air bases were apparently not targeted. Beltway neo cons would be woefully disappointed. Personally I read this as how we now draw a red line and this is a warning.
Catskillkid
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Not sure how I feel about this. Part of me is happy that Trump is a man of his word and won't say something is a line in the sand when it really isn't (one tends to lose credibility that way...Obama...cough...Obama). Then again, I'm not happy with constantly expending ordinance and revenue in a Third World shithole we don't need to be in. And frankly I'd rather deal with Assad (a secular dictator) then ISIS (religious whackadoo dictators). At the very least you can reason with or buy off the secular dictators.
Burzum
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Exactly, the "rebels" attacked the Assad regime because he had crazy ideas like giving women more rights and allowing a casino to open, Americans need to research into these "rebels," Reagan was smart enough to let Assad's father deal with them accordingly.
Assad had NO reason to carry out an attack, just days after Tillerson agreed to let the Syrian people decide on their leader, rather than forced regime change.
Remember the last "chemical weapons attack" in 2013 was proven to NOT, NOT, NOT be the work of Assad, it was dumbbell rebels mishandling the ordnance, yet the globalist media could not push for war fast enough...........OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE
Blimey
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About fking time.
I have wanted cruise missiles at syria for YEARS, specifically at Assad. He is a piece of human trash, the worst of what humans can be. And that is irrespective of whether this attack was actually initiated by him. Even if he didn't do it, he is complete crap and a terrible person. My only regret is that these missiles were not sent right up his ass. I have no illusions that with him gone Syria will recover. It is a lost country, but Assad deserves everything bad that happens to him.
Lots of things to read here:
1) When Trump says he has a line, it means something. This reflects very well on the country, unless he starts making lines over trivial stuff.
2) The US continues to be the only developed nation in the world (other than Russia) that will still unilaterally kick ass when it feels it needs to. We can't fiddle around at the UN all day and night dallying and hemming and hawing over minutiae.
3) If Kim Jong Un keeps pulling his dick out, it may get cut off.
4) And, more directly, Assad WILL NOT use chemical weapons again, even if he didn't use them this week (he did back in 2013 and we all know it). He now knows with absolute certainty that if he uses chem weapons again he is going to have all his shit taken off the table. He just lost one air base. He can lose all of his air assets and he absolutely will if he does this again. Now he knows the US means business and that while the UN is fking about and debating, the US can still act and do so on short notice.
I have wanted cruise missiles at syria for YEARS, specifically at Assad. He is a piece of human trash, the worst of what humans can be. And that is irrespective of whether this attack was actually initiated by him. Even if he didn't do it, he is complete crap and a terrible person. My only regret is that these missiles were not sent right up his ass. I have no illusions that with him gone Syria will recover. It is a lost country, but Assad deserves everything bad that happens to him.
Lots of things to read here:
1) When Trump says he has a line, it means something. This reflects very well on the country, unless he starts making lines over trivial stuff.
2) The US continues to be the only developed nation in the world (other than Russia) that will still unilaterally kick ass when it feels it needs to. We can't fiddle around at the UN all day and night dallying and hemming and hawing over minutiae.
3) If Kim Jong Un keeps pulling his dick out, it may get cut off.
4) And, more directly, Assad WILL NOT use chemical weapons again, even if he didn't use them this week (he did back in 2013 and we all know it). He now knows with absolute certainty that if he uses chem weapons again he is going to have all his shit taken off the table. He just lost one air base. He can lose all of his air assets and he absolutely will if he does this again. Now he knows the US means business and that while the UN is fking about and debating, the US can still act and do so on short notice.
Blimey
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Please don't speak of assad in any sort of a positive way; everyone in this thread could combine our scat into a big tub and it would have more value than him. He is responsible for mass torture and execution of his people. This is indisputable. He is a very naughty person.
I'm under no illusions about the rebels. The entire country is doomed IMO. I'm pretty sure assad did the 2013 attack but I never read the final UN report.
As for the timing of this, in your own words if tillerson has just said the syrians can keep their leader, assad misread this (reminds me of saddam back before 1991 war) that hey I can do whatever I want, and this war sucks, let's just get this done. Well, he misread.
EDIT: Oh, now i kind of remember--assad didn't initiate the attack, but it was his forces, not necessarily with his approval.
ArmedCorgi
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This really could be a message to NK. I mean, the rest of the world as well, but maybe more directly at NK.
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World Police at it again.
Corrupt world police.
Blimey
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And China. Apparently this happened less than an hour after Trump's meeting with the chinese president. If China can't help get NK in line, the US may have to go that alone as well.
Blimey
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Would you say corrupt world police if you were extremely confident that this attack was from assad? Because if you don't believe that, you have to pick the other side; specifically that you trust US intelligence less than Russian. Because one side is lying to you.
holdover
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This is an act of war . it was launched without congressional approval which would have required concrete proof that Assad did this. There has been no investigation whatsoever,We have checks and balances in our system of government to prevent this kind of thing. I hate to say this but Obamma was correct in not attacking after the first fake gas attack.
#2 this is not, nor has it ever been, a national security threat to the US.
Strike one against Trump. I had great hopes for this guy.
Blimey
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Merit in much of your post but I assume that US intelligence has more information on this strike than the various newspapers; they appear pretty convinced that he did this. We already know syrian warplanes hit the location, so for all we know there are US assets on the ground that went in after the fact and confirmed unequivocally there never was a chem weapons factory there, in which case the chems came from the planes.
I have a news for you. Vietnam war started based on a lie. Iraq war started based on a lie. Spanish American war started based on a lie.
Blimey
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Yes, but somebody launched this attack. Either it was Assad, as the US says, or it was a rebel chem factory, as Russia says.
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In the past Russian assessment of the Syrian rebels was proven correct 100%. So was their assessment of the Libyan rebels. Are they always correct, of course not, but they are by far more accurate on Islamism and proven right by history.
holdover
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the fact of the matter is Assad was winning with the help of the Russians , He had taken back Alleppo and killed a shit ton of ISIS fighters He has been closeing the ring around Raqqa and kicking the shit out of ISIS . ( Not Syrians) the people fighting Assad are foreigners, Heavily backed by Saudi Arabia.(Suuny) ISIS is Suuny Iraqis with them are Suuny ,Hezbolla fighting for Assad are..... Shiite . Iran is.... Shiite , Assad is Shite
Right now, after he is winning , and has ISIS on the run , after Trump said he thought attacking Syria was stupid and wastefull and after he had just said the Syrians should decide for themselves , Assad decides to kill his own civilians for no gain whatsoever, and infuriating the world .
Call me a conspiracy nut, but it makes absolutely no military or political sense to kill his own civilians with poison gas. and piss off the world for no gain . doesn't make any sense whatsoever .
Blimey
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Russia has made many assessments 
Actually I have to say although I'm glad this is a nice slap on assad holdover's post is pretty accurate. Syria poses zero threat to the US, and this is an act of war that seems to contradict the war powers act. Unfortunately, and this is everyone's fault, the war powers act is a piece of crap. Nobody cares. It gets ignored all the time, and there are never repercussions.
All this is really is Trump decided on a moral basis (which I agree with) assad needed to be hit. But, from a national security perspective, there was no risk, and so technically he should have gone to congress, just as obama was involved in doing with the redline stuff.
I like the end here, but the means are questionable.
Actually I have to say although I'm glad this is a nice slap on assad holdover's post is pretty accurate. Syria poses zero threat to the US, and this is an act of war that seems to contradict the war powers act. Unfortunately, and this is everyone's fault, the war powers act is a piece of crap. Nobody cares. It gets ignored all the time, and there are never repercussions.
All this is really is Trump decided on a moral basis (which I agree with) assad needed to be hit. But, from a national security perspective, there was no risk, and so technically he should have gone to congress, just as obama was involved in doing with the redline stuff.
I like the end here, but the means are questionable.
holdover
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ORRRRRRRR it was A CIA operation like the last gas attack was in 2013. Why do you think Obama didn't launch? Because hes a pussy? He found out he was lied to.
Blimey
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It doesn't make a ton of sense. I can understand why he might have wanted to show how tough he still is and help get his war squared away but normally if you're winning you don't change your strategy.
Dr. Evil
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You guys know way more about this situation but I feel confident in answering one of your questions. Yes, Obummer is a pussy.
holdover
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Maybe so, But I think it goes even deeper than that in this case.
From what I've seen and read tonight, we took a shit load of chemical weapons out of play with little collateral damage and probably sent a message to NK.
Just saw Congressional gang of 8 and Russia were notified.