US military offers legal migrants path to citizenship amid recruiting shortfall

[GOYABEAN]

Remember who feeds you and if you want to remain in this country you shoot whomever we order you too got it Jack!

 

[FP1201]

Remember who feeds you and if you want to remain in this country you shoot whomever we order you too got it Jack!

that's the whole point....they know that the majority of citizen soldiers will follow orders to a point, but when that point becomes armed conflict with Americans many will come to their senses.

 

[subsonic]

I'd rather have most of the legal immigrants than most of the recent college graduates.

So you are pro-replacement, exactly where the woke college professors indoctrinating "recent college graduates" want you to be.

Make the natives demoralized, confused, self-loathing and incapable of family formation, then point to the degenerated state of domestic society as a reason to "enrich" it with unassimilated masses from the third world.

 

[spat]

So you are pro-replacement, exactly where the woke college professors indoctrinating "recent college professors" want you to be.

Make the natives demoralized, confused, self-loathing and incapable of family formation, then point to the degenerated state of domestic society as a reason to "enrich" it with unassimilated masses from the third world.

No, not replacement.

What I'm saying is that the socially conservative guy who spent the effort to legally immigrate here and supports his family by running a hot dog stand *is more American* than the purple haired ze/zir/zim who's family came over on the maflower, thinks hard work and capitalism is the root of all evil and just graduated from an ivy league with a degree in grievance studies.

 

[Saltwater60]

So you are pro-replacement, exactly where the woke college professors indoctrinating "recent college graduates" want you to be.

Make the natives demoralized, confused, self-loathing and incapable of family formation, then point to the degenerated state of domestic society as a reason to "enrich" it with unassimilated masses from the third world.

This has been happening for years. And many very nice/good people enter the USA that way. I just met a Mexican immigrant the other day and I’d rather have him here than many others honestly.
Now I agree with you that it might be too many people at this point. The foreigners that are joining the military to gain citizenship should be a very small minority. Yes the left is working to replace conservatives in many ways but I think there are many more ways that are worse than this. Yes we will be gaslit because your talk is considered racist and they claim it’s not happening but if you listen to their speeches they literally tell you replacement is their plan.

 

[Acer-m14]

millions of boarder jumpers .. states and counties trying to keep them out .

where will they get there free housing and food now ..

ohhh join the military

 

[spat]

millions of boarder jumpers .. states and counties trying to keep them out .

where will they get there free housing and food now ..

ohhh join the military

Pretty sure this is limited to legal immigrants.

 

[dsdmmat]

millions of boarder jumpers .. states and counties trying to keep them out .

where will they get there free housing and food now ..

ohhh join the military

You have to be a legal immigrant to join the military.

 

[subsonic]

Pretty sure this is limited to legal immigrants.

You have to be a legal immigrant to join the military.

Sure, and you have to be legal to get government assistance too. You just believe everything you're told don't you?

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/data/DACA_Military_Data.pdf

There are approximately 820 individuals either currently serving in the military, or who have signed contracts to serve, who are recipients of DACA and were recruited via the Military Accessions Vital to National Interest (MAVNI) Pilot Program.

That was in 2017, during the Trump presidency, five years into DACA. What do you think that is now? Also,

Of the approximately 520 currently serving, personnel master files reflect that approximately 140 have self‐reported a change in their citizenship status to indicate naturalization.

So 140 of a section of those long-term illegals were granted US citizenship one way or another, back in 2017. That's just what the government admitted to, when prodded. It certainly doesn't count fraudulent naturalizations, anchor babies and chain migrants of illegals, etc.

Also, wait for it:

Gallego Bill to Allow Dreamers to Join the Military | U.S. Congressman Ruben Gallego

The Official U.S. Congressional website of Congressman Ruben Gallego

rubengallego.house.gov

 

[dsdmmat]

Sure, and you have to be legal to get government assistance too. You just believe everything you're told don't you?

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/data/DACA_Military_Data.pdf

That was in 2017, during the Trump presidency, five years into DACA. What do you think that is now? Also,

So 140 of a section of those long-term illegals were granted US citizenship one way or another, back in 2017. That's just what the government admitted to, when prodded. It certainly doesn't count fraudulent naturalizations, anchor babies and chain migrants of illegals, etc.

Also, wait for it:

Gallego Bill to Allow Dreamers to Join the Military | U.S. Congressman Ruben Gallego

The Official U.S. Congressional website of Congressman Ruben Gallego

rubengallego.house.gov

Congress and the president got them legal status through legislation. You just can’t hop the fence and go to a recruiting office.

 

[spat]

Sure, and you have to be legal to get government assistance too. You just believe everything you're told don't you?

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/data/DACA_Military_Data.pdf

That was in 2017, during the Trump presidency, five years into DACA. What do you think that is now? Also,

So 140 of a section of those long-term illegals were granted US citizenship one way or another, back in 2017. That's just what the government admitted to, when prodded. It certainly doesn't count fraudulent naturalizations, anchor babies and chain migrants of illegals, etc.

Also, wait for it:

Gallego Bill to Allow Dreamers to Join the Military | U.S. Congressman Ruben Gallego

The Official U.S. Congressional website of Congressman Ruben Gallego

rubengallego.house.gov

Anyone going through boot camp and putting in their 4 years as a grunt is someone we want. That is not the sort that are hopping the fence and dropping an anchor baby to collect welfare for the next 20 years.

Plus, a couple hundred, out of 1.4 million active duty doesn't really seem like a "great replacement" problem.

I am *far* more worried about what sort of officers we are getting out of ROTC from a modern woke-as-fuck university.

Hell, if we could swap 1 million American born grievance study degree holders for a million hard working Mexicans, I'd sign up for that trade in a heart beat.

 

[spat]

millions of boarder jumpers .. states and counties trying to keep them out .

where will they get there free housing and food now ..

ohhh join the military

Pretty sure you seriously earn your housing and food once you enlist LOL.


Now, the douchebags who got a meal plan and a housing allowance on campus out of their loan disbursement and have now decided someone else needs to pay it back for them OTOH.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Some training, yes but just because they enlist doesn't mean they get the nuke codes or even a basic low level SECRET clearance. Lot of MOS's for them from cooks to truck drivers. My first enlistment I was field artillery and didn't need a clearance until I signed up for a tactical nuke program, and even then it was just 'secret'. Shit I bet the Russians knew just as much about it as my instructors!

Small arms..equipment,strategy,...list can go on..great domestic terrorist training. Background checks are not fool proof.

 

[subsonic]

Congress and the president got them legal status through legislation. You just can’t hop the fence and go to a recruiting office.

Wrong! DACAs are illegals and always have been. There was no legislation, DACA was created by Obama’s signature. Stay deluded.

 

[dsdmmat]

Wrong! DACAs are illegals and always have been. There was no legislation, DACA was created by Obama’s signature. Stay deluded.

I stand corrected they have not been given a legal status yet. DACA recipients are barred from joining the armed forces. Until congress and the president gives them a legal pathway to join.

My first statement and basic premise still stands only migrants with legal status can join the military. If DACA recipients are given a legal reprieve from congress and the president pass the act then they will have a legal status to join the military.

 

[subsonic]

I stand corrected they have not been given a legal status yet. DACA recipients are barred from joining the armed forces. Until congress and the president gives them a legal pathway to join.

My first statement and basic premise still stands only migrants with legal status can join the military. If DACA recipients are given a legal reprieve from congress and the president pass the act then they will have a legal status to join the military.

Wrong again! The Secretary of Defense has been using “Military Accessions Vital to National Interest,” normally used to recruit legally present non-immigrant aliens to the military, to recruit DACA illegals, who were given reprieve by Obama, never by act of congress. They came here in most cases illegally crossing the border without inspection, or in a few cases were fraudulently admitted and overstayed temporary visas many years ago, they have been continuously illegally present for at least 16 years and are still illegal, and they are now in the military.

 

[dsdmmat]

Wrong again! The Secretary of Defense has been using “Military Accessions Vital to National Interest,” normally used to recruit legally present non-immigrant aliens to the military, to recruit DACA illegals, who were given reprieve by Obama, never by act of congress. They came here in most cases illegally crossing the border without inspection, or in a few cases were fraudulently admitted and overstayed temporary visas many years ago, they have been continuously illegally present for at least 16 years and are still illegal, and they are now in the military.

Well if they are in the military then they are doing a good job hiding. I have been serving in the Army and for the Army for the past 40 years and have not run into any of them.

 

[libertysnake]

I honestly don't care about the gays. If dudes like dudes, and chicks like chicks then whatever live your best life not my problem.

My frustration is how absolutely insane and over the top all this pride nonsense is. This militant trans lobby full of groomers is utter madness. This pride and drag story jour crap is completely ridiculous. It's descending into Sodom and Gomorrah level debauchery being thrown in our face and we have to just accept degeneracy as a good virtue. No I don't think so. And my standards of judgement are fair and equitable if straight people were doing the same thing having these completely ludicrous events and the media and politicians were pumping it like its the greatest thing ever I would be upset at that too. It's indecent regardless of the participants. It's gross and degenerate behavior.

There is a gay couple the lives down the street from me. They take excellent care of their house, they dress appropriately and like normal people, they don't have ridiculous behavior. Nothing extreme, just minding their own business. Guess what? No one cares. Just go about your business. That's the best way to earn acceptance is to blend in not stand out looking for reasons to be validated and screaming you're a victim when people think you're a certified freak based on your deliberate actions.

I'm 100% on board with this. My issue isn't what people do with their lives -- quite frankly, I don't care. I encourage people to follow what they think is best for them.

That being said, outward behavior is something I have to deal with when people throw it in my face constantly. Even if it were straight people acting insane, I'd have the same reaction. The over-the-top nature of this crap is getting on my nerves -- although, given 1A, it is perfectly allowed. Just because it is allowed doesn't mean I have to give my approval, though.

Be prideful. Be happy. Be respectful of your neighbors as well. That's all I ask.