US military will defend Taiwan 'if it comes to that,' Biden says

Saltwater60 · May 23, 2022

This guy is off the rails. If we don’t want a war with Russia why do we want a war with China and possibly North Korea?? He’s nuts, he’s lost it and has to go before we’re in 4 wars. There no walking this one back IMO because China won’t accept it.

Biden says US would respond 'militarily' if China attacked Taiwan, but White House insists there's no policy change

President Joe Biden said Monday that the United States would intervene militarily if China attempts to take Taiwan by force, a warning that appeared to deviate from the deliberate ambiguity traditionally held by Washington.

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ManualF150 · May 23, 2022

As I've said before the pandemic, we are heading towards 3rd world country status full speed ahead the way we keep going about things.

Personally, I enjoyed the luxuries while it lasted. But as any great empire once was, we are falling. History repeats itself so well.

spat · May 23, 2022

ManualF150 said:
As I've said before the pandemic, we are heading towards 3rd world country status full speed ahead the way we keep going about things.

Personally, I enjoyed the luxuries while it lasted. But as any great empire once was, we are falling. History repeats itself so well.

We aren't falling, we're being murdered.

FP1201 · May 23, 2022

I don't recall Trump's position on US involvement between Tiawan and China, but I do remember that when the US Economy is in the toilet the President (well his handlers) take us to War.
I wonder how many Gallow could be set up and hauled to DC on a 53' Flat Bed Trailer?
"Nothing says OBEY ME like a bloody head on a fence post"

Mosinitis · May 23, 2022

Ukraine is a part of historical Russia and Taiwan is a part of China. The leaders of both countries are correct.
U.S. will not go to war with either country because it will not risk nuclear apocalypse while being fundamentally wrong.

C3D · May 23, 2022

And out the window goes 73 years of a policy of strategic ambiguity intended to leave the issue in doubt. He brings us closer and closer to war.

spat · May 23, 2022

Mosinitis said:
Ukraine is a part of historical Russia and Taiwan is a part of China. The leaders of both countries are correct.
U.S. will not go to war with either country because it will not risk nuclear apocalypse while being fundamentally wrong.

You have that backwards.

China is part of Taiwain, not the other way around.

When the communists took over China, the legitimate government retreated to Taiwan.

The people we defended from Japan in WWII are the ones in Taiwain. The ones I'm Beijing are the murderous bastards that killed tens of millions of their own people, and are running concentration camps to this that would make the Nazi's blush.

Edwardteach72 · May 23, 2022

spat said:
You have that backwards.

China is part of Taiwain, not the other way around.

When the communists took over China, the legitimate government retreated to Taiwan.

The people we defended from Japan in WWII are the ones in Taiwain. The ones I'm Beijing are the murderous bastards that killed tens of millions of their own people, and are running concentration camps to this that would make the Nazi's blush.

Communists don't like history lessons, this will fall on def ears

Mosinitis · May 23, 2022

spat said:
You have that backwards.

China is part of Taiwain, not the other way around.

When the communists took over China, the legitimate government retreated to Taiwan.

The people we defended from Japan in WWII are the ones in Taiwain. The ones I'm Beijing are the murderous bastards that killed tens of millions of their own people, and are running concentration camps to this that would make the Nazi's blush.

Legitimate government is the government that won Civil War. Murderous bastards in Washington, don't get to decide.

spat · May 23, 2022

Mosinitis said:
Legitimate government is the government that won Civil War. Murderous bastards in Washington, don't get to decide.

Since Taiwain is still independent, it sounds like the civil war isn't over, no matter how much Xi wants to pretend otherwise.

The US is wise to ally with the side that isn't a murderous dictatorship in that war.

As far as Russia being entitled to Ukraine because they once controlled it, does that mean Queen Elizabeth can demand the 13 original colonies back ?

spat · May 23, 2022

C3D said:
And out the window goes 73 years of a policy of strategic ambiguity intended to leave the issue in doubt. He brings us closer and closer to war.

Not sure that was ever a good policy.

Avoiding a fight that you should be having is appeasement.

Most of our problems today can be traced back to appeasement of one sort or another.

“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

tirwin1 · May 23, 2022

I've heard that Taiwan may be able to make nukes in the short term.

Whether or not that deters xi and the commies is another matter. Some people think the commies would gladly sacrifice 1 million casualties to conquer Taiwan. Will the Chinese people acquiesce to being used as Cannon fodder?

Drinkthekoolaid · May 23, 2022

Well that sucks.

I like Taiwan, I'm on Taiwan's side.

But, sadly we're all but certain now to end up in ww3 before the decade is out.

Sure glad the mean tweets stopped though. I would really hate to have to have feelings hurt or lose international respect

spat · May 23, 2022

tirwin1 said:
I've heard that Taiwan may be able to make nukes in the short term.

Whether or not that deters xi and the commies is another matter. Some people think the commies would gladly sacrifice 1 million casualties to conquer Taiwan. Will the Chinese people acquiesce to being used as Cannon fodder?

What we should do is extend to Taiwan the same nuke deal we have with the UK.

The Brits don't manufacture or own the nukes sitting in the launch tubes of their submarines. They lease them from us.

Every few years they swing one of their subs by a base here and we swap their missiles out with fresh ones, and send the existing ones for maintenance.

They maintain complete control of the nukes in their possession, they do not need our permission to launch.

We could easily lease Taiwan 100 nuclear tomahawks with launchers. That would certainly make China think twice before planning an invasion.

Phazer · May 23, 2022

A free Taiwan is of significant strategic and economic interest to The United States.

The same cannot be said of Ukraine.

Deplorable Me · May 23, 2022

Kiss Taiwan goodbye.

meketrefe · May 23, 2022

Taiwan and Hong Kong are entitled to freedom from obsolete regimes and oligarchies just like Ukraine is too.

meketrefe · May 23, 2022

livingston said:
CNN: Admin “Almost Immediately” Walked Back Biden’s Comments On Taiwan

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I wonder if presidential diapers for senior presidents have the WH seal/logo in the front or the back?

Arjuna · May 23, 2022

White House walks back Biden Taiwan defense claim for third time in 9 months

Jmac · May 23, 2022

Asshole is a f- - - king moron

Vapor · May 23, 2022

Everytime I read the news...

Deplorable Me · May 23, 2022

meketrefe said:
Taiwan and Hong Kong are entitled to freedom from obsolete regimes and oligarchies just like Ukraine is too.

How about New York?

meketrefe · May 23, 2022

Deplorable Me said:
How about New York?

Hard to define lines where ignorance is winning over wisdom person by person house by house.

Acer-m14 · May 23, 2022

what are we fighting for ??

Global Destruction

Bigfoot · May 24, 2022

Acer-m14 · May 24, 2022

Acer-m14 · May 24, 2022

Bigfoot said:
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watched that last night .. good movie ..

US military will defend Taiwan 'if it comes to that,' Biden says

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