US pops al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri like a pimple via drone strike

[spat]

Do you also fault Trump for removing thousands of American troops while Taliban was still attacking Afghan forces and closing in on Kabul?

Do you fault Trump for signing a evacuation deal with the Taliban that did not include negotiating with the Afghan government?

What Afghan government ?

It was clear they were going to fold shortly after we left no matter what we did. There was as much point in including them in the negotiation as there would the flat earth society.

Also, Trump kept enough troops in country to defend our interests. His deal also had explicit provisions to retaliate against the Taliban if they interfered with an orderly withdrawal.

Once Trump was out of office, the international community lost all respect for us and walked all over Biden.

I know you're going to dispute that last point, but that's only because you do not understand what respect on the international stage looks like.

Of course they are going to fawn all over Biden and say shit about Trump. That's because they see the US under Biden as a mark to be scammed, and the US under Trump as someone they can't exploit.

 

[ronstar]

What Afghan government ?

It was clear they were going to fold shortly after we left no matter what we did. There was as much point in including them in the negotiation as there would the flat earth society.

Also, Trump kept enough troops in country to defend our interests. His deal also had explicit provisions to retaliate against the Taliban if they interfered with an orderly withdrawal.

Once Trump was out of office, the international community lost all respect for us and walked all over Biden.

I know you're going to dispute that last point, but that's only because you do not understand what respect on the international stage looks like.

Of course they are going to fawn all over Biden and say shit about Trump. That's because they see the US under Biden as a mark to be scammed, and the US under Trump as someone they can't exploit.

Monday morning quarterbacking is pretty funny. Everybody thought that the Afghan government was going to be able to hold its own for many months after the withdrawal. That was everybody's professional assessment.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

 

[spat]

Monday morning quarterbacking is pretty funny. Everybody thought that the Afghan government was going to be able to hold its own for many months after the withdrawal. That was everybody's professional assessment.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Yes, people thought they might hang for a few months.

That hardly qualifies them as a worthy partner at the negotiating table.

A few months vs a few days is irrelevant. Everyone knew they weren't going to be running the place a year later.

 

[ronstar]

Yes, people thought they might hang for a few months.

That hardly qualifies them as a worthy partner at the negotiating table.

A few months vs a few days is irrelevant. Everyone knew they weren't going to be running the place a year later.

All the more reason for us to get the fuck out already. If a nation refuses to stand up and defend itself it's really not our job to do it for them.

I am confident that we really did the best we could.

 

[spat]

I am confident that we really did the best we could.

Really ? You think that's the best we should be able to manage ?

Well, maybe with Biden at the helm, yea.

Quick question though. Would you have said anything like that if Trump had been in charge for that disaster ?

I think you would be calling the withdrawal the worst blunder since the battle of Cannae

 

[holdover]

Well I'm really not much of a conspiracy theorist so yes I believe the event occurred. If you have evidence to the contrary that should be quite a hoot.

A conspiracy theorist is someone who questions the government?

 

[Saltwater60]

Monday morning quarterbacking is pretty funny. Everybody thought that the Afghan government was going to be able to hold its own for many months after the withdrawal. That was everybody's professional assessment.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Provide me one reliable article that states this. Everyone knew it would collapse. Hell I did. So who’s the Monday morning quarterback?
Your hero lied to you and intelligence reports show it. So where’s the congressional investigation? Where’s the impeachment hearing?

Intelligence Warned of Afghan Military Collapse, Despite Biden’s Assurances (Published 2021)

Even as the president was telling the public that Kabul was unlikely to fall, intelligence assessments painted a grimmer picture.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Saltwater60]

All the more reason for us to get the fuck out already. If a nation refuses to stand up and defend itself it's really not our job to do it for them.

I am confident that we really did the best we could.

I’ll agree with the first statement. There we have some common ground.
The second statement is a joke. We did the best we could. I’m sure the servicemen and women did, but the politicians I have zero faith in.

 

[Saltwater60]

Justice was done yesterday. Someone who participated in the mass murder of American citizens was brought to Justice. Permanently.

America sent a very clear message that even if it takes decades, people who harm us will be found and will be punished

Wow one of many was killed. How many civilians were killed? Did they kill another water boy humanitarian in the process and call him a terrorist too?

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Monday morning quarterbacking is pretty funny. Everybody thought that the Afghan government was going to be able to hold its own for many months after the withdrawal. That was everybody's professional assessment.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Covid was 2020. Hindsight is going to need glasses now. History is being written inaccurately, as it's being made.

 

[Jchrisls]

All the more reason for us to get the fuck out already. If a nation refuses to stand up and defend itself it's really not our job to do it for them.

I am confident that we really did the best we could.

Bullshit. A hasty withdrawal poorly planned executed with minimal organization is NOT the best we could do. I'm certain you will have some sort of useless comment about it, but my SON who WAS THERE during THE SHITSHOW you call a withdrawal would BEG TO DIFFER WITH YOU.

Do YOU have a purple heart for serving IN COMBAT during this panty wasts exit from the sand? Cause I sure wish my son didn't....3x.

 

[Tisto]

Well I'm really not much of a conspiracy theorist so yes I believe the event occurred. If you have evidence to the contrary that should be quite a hoot.

I'm claiming nothing. Show me evidence that it happened ! He's been killed four times already !

 

[ronstar]

Wow one of many was killed. How many civilians were killed? Did they kill another water boy humanitarian in the process and call him a terrorist too?

We killed a terrorist mastermind. Sometimes there is very unfortunate collateral damage, especially when the cowards hide among their own people.

 

[ronstar]

I'm claiming nothing. Show me evidence that it happened ! He's been killed four times already !

When has the USA ever claimed before that he was killed?

 

[Tisto]

When has the USA ever claimed before that he was killed?

It is very easy to find dozens of reports just like this.

Redirect Notice

 

[ronstar]

It is very easy to find dozens of reports just like this.

Redirect Notice

Dubious claim of him being dead, coming from useless sources, don't really concern me. The USA never claimed he was dead before.

 

[redtail]

Closing down Baghram air base before evacuating the troops and citizens was a brilliant move by dear leader.

Seems diesel tech's prodigy likes to push the nonsense buttons.

Please act accordingly.

 

[Tisto]

Dubious claim of him being dead, coming from useless sources, don't really concern me. The USA never claimed he was dead before.

And of course the Biden administration has not, nor would EVER issue "dubious claims" about ANYTHING, for any reason, especially to prop up poll numbers.....

Keep drinking that KoolAid !

 

[ronstar]

And of course the Biden administration has not, nor would EVER issue "dubious claims" about ANYTHING, for any reason, especially to prop up poll numbers.....

Keep drinking that KoolAid !

LOL!!!! Wow, did you really just type that paranoid silliness?

 

[Jchrisls]

@ronstar ..

Its seems that, in your disagreements with others, you strictly respond to what may be deemed "low hanging fruit " to feed your arguments, but fail to respond to more difficult realities that oppose your opinion, as mine did in post #41. Why would that be?

Nevermind, I think we all know the answer....

 

[Dr. Evil]

@ronstar ..

Its seems that, in your disagreements with others, you strictly respond to what may be deemed "low hanging fruit " to feed your arguments, but fail to respond to more difficult realities that oppose your opinion, as mine did in post #41. Why would that be?

Nevermind, I think we all know the answer....

Reminds me of someone else on here lol. Brothers from a different mother.

 

[spat]

LOL!!!! Wow, did you really just type that paranoid silliness?

You say that as if they didn't just attempt to redefine the word recession in their favor right before a midterm election.

 

[FP1201]

Justice was done yesterday. Someone who participated in the mass murder of American citizens was brought to Justice. Permanently.

America sent a very clear message that even if it takes decades, people who harm us will be found and will be punished

Judge, Jury, and Executioner; one stop shopping at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I worked 19 years on a heavily deployed Army Installation: If we were getting our asses handed to us NO ONE said as much.
Trump and the vast majority of American People (R&D alike) wanted us out, a deal was struck under the clear caveat that no one be harmed while exiting or the penalty would be very heavy.
What Biden did was asinine, ignorant, and inexcusable; even his own People said so, and now he want to get us involved with Ukraine and Russia all while the Drunk (wine and power) Pelosi is in Tiawan sturring up a Hornets nest with the Chinese. I expect their threats are from a Paper Tiger, but all it takes is one General looking for another Star to start shit that no one wants to step in.

 

[FP1201]

Monday morning quarterbacking is pretty funny. Everybody thought that the Afghan government was going to be able to hold its own for many months after the withdrawal. That was everybody's professional assessment.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

That was not everybody's assessment saying so is generalizing with an impossible proof.... Sounds just like "The majority of Gun owners favor an assault weapons ban." it just isn't so.

 

[Jchrisls]

Judge, Jury, and Executioner; one stop shopping at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I worked 19 years on a heavily deployed Army Installation: If we were getting our asses handed to us NO ONE said as much.
Trump and the vast majority of American People (R&D alike) wanted us out, a deal was struck under the clear caveat that no one be harmed while exiting or the penalty would be very heavy.
What Biden did was asinine, ignorant, and inexcusable; even his own People said so, and now he want to get us involved with Ukraine and Russia all while the Drunk (wine and power) Pelosi is in Tiawan sturring up a Hornets nest with the Chinese. I expect their threats are from a Paper Tiger, but all it takes is one General looking for another Star to start shit that no one wants to step in.

+ 1k likes on this.
Ps- THANK YOU for serving us in your role. Forever remember, as I say to my own sons, that you didn't fail us....we failed you.

 

[meketrefe]

Do you also fault Trump for removing thousands of American troops while Taliban was still attacking Afghan forces and closing in on Kabul?

Do you fault Trump for signing a evacuation deal with the Taliban that did not include negotiating with the Afghan government?

The best deal we ever had was put together by Richard Holbrooke who was key in the kosovo peace process during the clinton.
But unfortunately he got blindsided by Obama and Petreas who wanted to keep the business of war open.

Bush started this mess and Obama made it a lot worse.

You are talking 16 years of disastrous policies.

 

[Tisto]

LOL!!!! Wow, did you really just type that paranoid silliness?

Yes, in fact I did type that. Let me tell you something, Slick. I was in the military, and had a very high intel clearance. I know for a fact that the government lies to everybody about every thing. I saw it. Hell, I did it. I was told I didn't see what I saw. I was told I didn't do what I did.

Right out of the military I was recruited as a government contractor because of my clearance and my skills. I have been to about 95% of every military nuclear installation to do contract work. If there was a nuclear warhead or the ability to launch one from that location, I probably worked there . I know more about what goes on in this country than I would like to.

Do I trust the government to tell me the truth about ANYTHING ? NO. That's not paranoia, it's experience. It's skepticism based on the government's own history.


You seem to have a bunch of witty answers to everyone's posts, yet I can't find one where you actually backed up any of your opinions with facts.


Wouldn't you be more comfortable over at Mom's Demand Action or the Huffington Post or NPR ? You seem to have quite a liberal outlook. I think it's that NYC area mentality. There must be something in the water or air. It permeates that shit hole and almost everyone down there is infected with that sheep mentality.

I will ask one more time for actual proof that Zawahiri was taken out. You don't have any. Only that Biden SAYS he got him. I have no proof that he ISN'T dead, but my being skeptical is based on the lies told by the very same people telling this story. Color me jaded.

 

[ronstar]

@ronstar ..

Its seems that, in your disagreements with others, you strictly respond to what may be deemed "low hanging fruit " to feed your arguments, but fail to respond to more difficult realities that oppose your opinion, as mine did in post #41. Why would that be?

Nevermind, I think we all know the answer....

I didn't see anything worthy of responding to in your post. Really doesn't seem like you wanted a response anyway, just wanted to make a little speech.

 

[ronstar]

Yes, in fact I did type that. Let me tell you something, Slick. I was in the military, and had a very high intel clearance. I know for a fact that the government lies to everybody about every thing. I saw it. Hell, I did it. I was told I didn't see what I saw. I was told I didn't do what I did.

Right out of the military I was recruited as a government contractor because of my clearance and my skills. I have been to about 95% of every military nuclear installation to do contract work. If there was a nuclear warhead or the ability to launch one from that location, I probably worked there . I know more about what goes on in this country than I would like to.

Do I trust the government to tell me the truth about ANYTHING ? NO. That's not paranoia, it's experience. It's skepticism based on the government's own history.


You seem to have a bunch of witty answers to everyone's posts, yet I can't find one where you actually backed up any of your opinions with facts.


Wouldn't you be more comfortable over at Mom's Demand Action or the Huffington Post or NPR ? You seem to have quite a liberal outlook. I think it's that NYC area mentality. There must be something in the water or air. It permeates that shit hole and almost everyone down there is infected with that sheep mentality.

I will ask one more time for actual proof that Zawahiri was taken out. You don't have any. Only that Biden SAYS he got him. I have no proof that he ISN'T dead, but my being skeptical is based on the lies told by the very same people telling this story. Color me jaded.

Sigh, do you also doubt that Osama bin Laden was killed by Seal Team 6? Saddam Hussein was captured & executed? No planes hit the WTC??

 

[ronstar]

Judge, Jury, and Executioner; one stop shopping at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I worked 19 years on a heavily deployed Army Installation: If we were getting our asses handed to us NO ONE said as much.
Trump and the vast majority of American People (R&D alike) wanted us out, a deal was struck under the clear caveat that no one be harmed while exiting or the penalty would be very heavy.
What Biden did was asinine, ignorant, and inexcusable; even his own People said so, and now he want to get us involved with Ukraine and Russia all while the Drunk (wine and power) Pelosi is in Tiawan sturring up a Hornets nest with the Chinese. I expect their threats are from a Paper Tiger, but all it takes is one General looking for another Star to start shit that no one wants to step in.

Newt Gingrich visited in 1997. Was that also a grand mistake, playing with fire?