USA Social Contract Discussion

[SomeSoldier]

This image was posted in the Political Images thread. My question is how true is this, because I will guarantee you they are not going to come out and tell you that this has occurred. This is something we would need to figure out on our own. What are some other signs we should be looking for? Do we then just fall under natures law or does international law still apply?

 

[Saltwater60]

This image was posted in the Political Images thread. My question is how true is this, because I will guarantee you they are not going to come out and tell you that this has occurred. This is something we would need to figure out on our own. What are some other signs we should be looking for? Do we then just fall under natures law or does international law still apply?


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I think the signs are all around us. The Supreme Court does as it pleases and the democrats can do the same.
for instance obummer enacted DACA by executive order and Trump tried to do away with it by executive order but the SC said no. How can this be?
The democrats aid and ebbed fugitives from justice and this is allowed. They find illegal immigration and identity theft.
Nkw they have taken our rights a freedoms away. If you don’t agree with their vaccine schedule you can’t go to school or university.
They are dining us for not dressing the way they want. No makes you get a fine
No more than 10 people in your own homes come on.
The USA we knew is dead.

 

[SomeSoldier]

I think the signs are all around us. The Supreme Court does as it pleases and the democrats can do the same.
for instance obummer enacted DACA by executive order and Trump tried to do away with it by executive order but the SC said no. How can this be?
The democrats aid and ebbed fugitives from justice and this is allowed. They find illegal immigration and identity theft.
Nkw they have taken our rights a freedoms away. If you don’t agree with their vaccine schedule you can’t go to school or university.
They are dining us for not dressing the way they want. No makes you get a fine
No more than 10 people in your own homes come on.
The USA we knew is dead.

I completely agree but they still want to impose rule on us like everything is the same as it was. They don't want to wake up the masses. So what is the tipping point that we no longer have to follow their laws? When is murder no longer a law? When do I stop paying taxes?

 

[spat]

I completely agree but they still want to impose rule on us like everything is the same as it was. They don't want to wake up the masses. So what is the tipping point that we no longer have to follow their laws? When is murder no longer a law? When do I stop paying taxes?

When do you stop paying the mafia protection money and start sending it's enforcers back in body bags ?

Nobody felt they had a moral obligation to Al Capone, but they paid anyway. There's a reason for that.

I'd say we crossed the "moral obligation to obey the law" threshold a while ago. We're running on sheer "fear of the consequences" now. That's not going to go away anytime soon.

 

[SomeSoldier]

When do you stop paying the mafia protection money and start sending it's enforcers back in body bags ?

Nobody felt they had a moral obligation to Al Capone, but they paid anyway. There's a reason for that.

I'd say we crossed the "moral obligation to obey the law" threshold a while ago. We're running on sheer "fear of the consequences" now. That's not going to go away anytime soon.

I don't fear my gov, hence I don't wear a face mask.

 

[spat]

I don't fear my gov, hence I don't wear a face mask.

You should.

They way things are going you've got way better odds they'll be the cause of your demise than age or any chinese virus....

 

[SomeSoldier]

You should.

They way things are going you've got way better odds they'll be the cause of your demise than age or any chinese virus....

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. I have a place to go after I leave this body. Whether its heaven or hell that is for God's judgement.

 

[Robin]

This image was posted in the Political Images thread. My question is how true is this, because I will guarantee you they are not going to come out and tell you that this has occurred. This is something we would need to figure out on our own. What are some other signs we should be looking for? Do we then just fall under natures law or does international law still apply?


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I don't know anything about all that. I have made only one contract with the government.
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
For my part, the contract has never been voided or reminded.
Robin

 

[Saltwater60]

I don’t think there is equal protection under the law in the USA. If you are a drug dealing gang member and caught with drugs and a gun they plea the gun charge down and away and just charge you with the drugs. Drug crimes are scene as no big deal now. Of you are a legal gun owner caught with something arbitrarily made illegal they will charge you with that.
To answer your question we as white legal citizens are held to the law but as it has been witnessed many times over minorities are no longer being held to the same standards/laws as we are. This will only get worse. So to answer your question yes you are still held to the laws.

 

[Paxal]

Being “Free to go your own way” does not mean there is no “social contract”. Morality and ethics are the basis of any social contract between individuals. Get rid of morality and ethical behavior soon follows. Then there is no social contract and it is simply dog-eat-dog, and the party gets going. This is why religion is so “bad” and must be dealt with: it is the source and the foundation of moral behavior. (Depending on which religion you espouse.)

 

[SomeSoldier]

I don’t think there is equal protection under the law in the USA. If you are a drug dealing gang member and caught with drugs and a gun they plea the gun charge down and away and just charge you with the drugs. Drug crimes are scene as no big deal now. Of you are a legal gun owner caught with something arbitrarily made illegal they will charge you with that.
To answer your question we as white legal citizens are held to the law but as it has been witnessed many times over minorities are no longer being held to the same standards/laws as we are. This will only get worse. So to answer your question yes you are still held to the laws.

At what point does that end? When do we no longer accept their bullshit laws?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

At what point does that end? When do we no longer accept their bullshit laws?

Fair question

 

[Celt]

At what point does that end? When do we no longer accept their bullshit laws?

We can choose to ignore their laws anytime we want, but I believe there will always be consequences. There is no chance that governments of the world will collapse to a point where we are living in a tribal society like we did thousands of years ago.

At what point would people take matters into their own hands to try to take our government back is a different question. That I don't have the answer to. But as long as people are able to feed their families and provide them shelter, they will stay in line, by and large.

It would take charismatic leadership to win enough hearts and minds of regular people to join the cause to do such a thing. And there is no leadership on the right at this point in time that could do that.

 

[SomeSoldier]

We can choose to ignore their laws anytime we want, but I believe there will always be consequences. There is no chance that governments of the world will collapse to a point where we are living in a tribal society like we did thousands of years ago.

At what point would people take matters into their own hands to try to take our government back is a different question. That I don't have the answer to. But as long as people are able to feed their families and provide them shelter, they will stay in line, by and large.

It would take charismatic leadership to win enough hearts and minds of regular people to join the cause to do such a thing. And there is no leadership on the right at this point in time that could do that.

It only took 3% of the populace last time, so its hard for me to accept that it would take more than 30% this time.

 

[Phazer]

At what point does that end? When do we no longer accept their bullshit laws?

The base law of human interaction: Might makes right.

As long as you have power that you can effectively, reliably, wield, your regime makes the rules.

Those on the side of the United States Constitution need to take back their power from the posers and usurpers.

I, however, do not know how to do it.

 

[SomeSoldier]

The base law of human interaction: Might makes right.

As long as you have power that you can effectively, reliably, wield, your regime makes the rules.

Those on the side of the United States Constitution need to take back their power from the posers and usurpers.

I, however, do not know how to do it.

I agree and to me is seems that is how all levels of government have operated for the last 15ish years. They have ignored laws they don't like but yet enforce unconstitutional laws on us. To me that sounds exactly like Might makes right or Tyranny. With this thinking the contact with the government is null and void. The question is how do we go about replacing the current traitors?

 

[Phazer]

I agree and to me is seems that is how all levels of government have operated for the last 15ish years. They have ignored laws they don't like but yet enforce unconstitutional laws on us. To me that sounds exactly like Might makes right or Tyranny. With this thinking the contact with the government is null and void. The question is how do we go about replacing the current traitors?

The founders of the United States agree with you.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.​

 

[prambo]

At what point does that end? When do we no longer accept their bullshit laws?

I no longer do - government agents have no status because the government that employs them is now totally illegitimate

I didn't go my own way, .GOV has gone rogue, as shown by their actions, ergo their part of the construct is no longer viable.

Thus my "signature" from Steve Biko.

 

[Modean]

When do you stop paying the mafia protection money and start sending it's enforcers back in body bags ?

Nobody felt they had a moral obligation to Al Capone, but they paid anyway. There's a reason for that.

I'd say we crossed the "moral obligation to obey the law" threshold a while ago. We're running on sheer "fear of the consequences" now. That's not going to go away anytime soon.

Defund the police is going to take care of the fear of consequences. It has already done so in some cities.