Weapons cache seized by Hudson City Police

wirehairfan · Jun 11, 2021

The AR and AK both have spur grips ... clearly the NY unSAFE Act is working

libertysnake · Jun 11, 2021

What's wrong with the rifles, exactly? Does anyone have any info on if they're being charged with anything for the rifles?

C3D · Jun 11, 2021

libertysnake said:
What's wrong with the rifles, exactly? Does anyone have any info on if they're being charged with anything for the rifles?

From the article, it says there were several handguns and a Ruger had the serial number removed. That tells me that 1. They don’t have a license for those guns and 2. They are getting charged with having a defaced weapon.

That assumes that none of the people with the car or convicted felons, which is not an unlikely scenario.

libertysnake · Jun 11, 2021

C3D said:
From the article, it says there were several handguns and a Ruger had the serial number removed. That tells me that 1. They don’t have a license for those guns and 2. They are getting charged with having a defaced weapon.

That assumes that none of the people with the car or convicted felons, which is not an unlikely scenario.

They also didn't say "assault rifles" with regard to both rifles. Just semi-automatic rifles. That tells me they know they don't have a case with those, but they were just seized as part of the search. Maybe not chargeable unless they're stolen.

SonOfSun · Jun 11, 2021

Police obtained a search warrant for two vehicles and seized a defaced Ruger .380 handgun with six rounds of ammunition in the magazine. Police are tracing the origin of the weapon.

Also seized was a defaced Ruger 9mm handgun with seven rounds in the magazine. The gun was reported stolen in North Carolina.

Got a warrant and the serials were removed. No issue with this one IMO.

libertysnake · Jun 11, 2021

SonOfSun said:
Police obtained a search warrant for two vehicles and seized a defaced Ruger .380 handgun with six rounds of ammunition in the magazine. Police are tracing the origin of the weapon.

Also seized was a defaced Ruger 9mm handgun with seven rounds in the magazine. The gun was reported stolen in North Carolina.

Got a warrant and the serials were removed. No issue with this one IMO.

My issue isn't with the defaced weapons. My issue is how they charge for the rifles, if at all, assuming they're legally obtained.

S&W Fan · Jun 11, 2021

libertysnake said:
My issue isn't with the defaced weapons. My issue is how they charge for the rifles, if at all, assuming they're legally obtained.

One would tend to think that if the two defaced illegally owned handguns were stolen then the rifles were most likely stolen as well.

libertysnake · Jun 11, 2021

S&W Fan said:
One would tend to think that if the two defaced illegally owned handguns were stolen then the rifles were most likely stolen as well.

Possible, but I want to know if they try to classify them as "assault weapons" or not. Didn't appear to do so in the article.

RooftopKorean · Jun 11, 2021

LOL, that's a "cache" ??? Give me a break.

S&W Fan · Jun 11, 2021

RooftopKorean said:
LOL, that's a "cache" ??? Give me a break.

Yeah that’s the part that has me scratching my head. If that’s a cache, then I have a frigging armory.

Apeman · Jun 11, 2021

Here's my question

How did they get the warrant? If the AR and the 12 gauge were legal than what can they base the warrant on? So what if you can see them. Thats not illegal it's just not smart. Maybe you can run the plates and see if the owner is a felon or has warrants but they're not supposed to do that unless there is a crime or traffic infraction. Maybe somebody borrowed the car. Either the article left out info(surprise) or something else happened. If not this sounds like a BS search.

I'm not saying those charged are saints but from what the article says this isn't right and they should walk.

ArmedCorgi · Jun 11, 2021

"weapons cache"? Really? Damn, how'd they fit the entire "weapons cache" into one picture?

Cavalry · Jun 13, 2021

cache
/kaSH/

noun
noun: cache; plural noun: caches; noun: cache memory; plural noun: cache memories

a collection of items of the same type stored in a hidden or inaccessible place.

Great writing skills, I guess "arsenal" was too outlandish.

Robin · Jun 13, 2021

Plural is actually , cashew.

Yeah, its nut's isn't it.
Robin

libertysnake · Jun 14, 2021

GOYABEAN said:
Update just a bunch of misunderstood youth's

Four charged in Hudson gun grab - Mid Hudson News

CITY OF HUDSON – Police have charged four people in connection with a cache of weapons seized in the City of Hudson days ago. A 16-year-old was charged with two felony counts of criminal possession of a weapon, one count of which was for possession of a defaced gun. A 17-year-old was charged...

midhudsonnews.com

What weapon were they charged with for it being an "assault weapon"? The shotgun? Otherwise there would be 3 counts I'd assume for assault weapons if you count the rifles.

libertysnake · Jun 14, 2021

If they're charging these kids, I assume there is a public record that be inquired against that specifies... has to be some way to find out which of those rifles they view as uncompliant, any why.

Either the shotgun is semi, or the AR-15 has a folder that is functional. I don't see anything wrong with the AK. Hard to see but the barrel looks unthreaded, and I can't tell if the lugs are still there or not at all. Otherwise it looks totally fine.

Steal2B · Jun 14, 2021

"The two juveniles were released on their own recognizance to their mothers"

A lot of good the moms are going to be. Unless it brings more Parole Officers in to the oversight mix.

nortatoga · Jun 14, 2021

Enlarging the picture, it looks like the AR has a cap on the barrel may not be pinned and can't tell if the stock is collapsible or not.

libertysnake · Jun 14, 2021

Used a burner and inquired at the Hudson City Police to see if they have any info publicly available. They said only the press release, otherwise it would have to be a FOIA request for case details from the chief -- I didn't want to press it further, and said I'd just wait for another press release with case details as I was independently researching into the details of the case.

I did not speak about any other details or go into any other details on my motivations. I thanked the officer for the brief interaction, and that was all.

libertysnake · Aug 13, 2021

I would like to bring this thread back up, as I really want to know which of these weapons is classified as the "assault weapon." My guess is it isn't the AK.

spat · Aug 13, 2021

SonOfSun said:
Police obtained a search warrant for two vehicles and seized a defaced Ruger .380 handgun with six rounds of ammunition in the magazine. Police are tracing the origin of the weapon.

Also seized was a defaced Ruger 9mm handgun with seven rounds in the magazine. The gun was reported stolen in North Carolina.

Got a warrant and the serials were removed. No issue with this one IMO.

Not sure why anyone removes a serial number.

The lack of a serial number is a bigger red flag than a stolen one.

dean3690 · Aug 19, 2021

I didn't see any mention of assault rifle in the article. I assume that the rifles had no gun lock and that the rifle ammo was not locked in a separate container and that they were located in the passenger compartment and potentially accessible to the driver. Probably loaded as were the handguns. Certainly visible to the Po Po and enough to get a warrant to search further. Both rifles may be configured NYS compliant but not compliantly stored and transported. If there were gun locks or containers, the Po Po may not show those as they don't advance the narrative of all guns and ammo bad. Clearly being in possession of 2 stolen pistols with scratched serial numbers are charges number 1-4 and if loaded and unlocked number 5-8.

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