Which 9mm should I get?

[Gonzobird]

You would need a different slide as well (oh and a different ejector)

oops..

Yeah scratch number 5 I got it backwards. You can do going from 40 to 9.

 

[togmaster]

"This could be a contender, or the CZ P10C. However, all of these guns I suspect will be less accurate than the Glock 34 (unless I put optics on) due to the smaller site radius."

That's why I recommended the P10 F. Same sight radius as the G17 plus the US made version is optics ready. Also after you get used to the guns the difference in sight radius between the "F" and the "C" is negligible.

 

[Robin]

Blimey,
Summary:
Glock: Like them fine, but actually dislike the rear site being squared off with a circular front (none of the other guns had this)
VP9: felt great, disliked mag release
SW MP: Very nice, don't like thumb safety
CZ P10C: no complaints at all
Looks like you found it.
Robin

 

[Blimey]

Blimey,
Summary:
Glock: Like them fine, but actually dislike the rear site being squared off with a circular front (none of the other guns had this)
VP9: felt great, disliked mag release
SW MP: Very nice, don't like thumb safety
CZ P10C: no complaints at all
Looks like you found it.
Robin

It would, but now I'm annoyed that the P10F doesn't seem available!

 

[Phauxtoe]

ALWAYS SHOOT Before you buy!
I Love my Sigs, both the SP2022 (cheap) and the P239 (Not Cheap)
grip angle and I love double Single action triggers.

CZ anything are very nice!

 

[Edwardteach72]

It would, but now I'm annoyed that the P10F doesn't seem available!

They will be rolling out soon hopefully

 

[Blimey]

They will be rolling out soon hopefully

I think I'm too impatient for that at the moment

I'm leaning toward the 17 or the 34. The 17 is appreciably cheaper, but I just cannot even see ever carrying it, so the extra $100 or whatever for the 34 may be worth it. I can get both locally now "on sale".

 

[Edwardteach72]

I think I'm too impatient for that at the moment

I'm leaning toward the 17 or the 34. The 17 is appreciably cheaper, but I just cannot even see ever carrying it, so the extra $100 or whatever for the 34 may be worth it. I can get both locally now "on sale".

The good news is if you get the 17 or the 34 both can be easily switched to the other later down the road,

Personally I would suggest the 34 and a good set of sights

 

[Jaywmustang]

U know, u could buy 3-4 hi point jhp for the price of a Glock

 

[Blimey]

The good news is if you get the 17 or the 34 both can be easily switched to the other later down the road,

Personally I would suggest the 34 and a good set of sights

This is a good point. Hoping to make a decision today before I dwell on it excessively.

U know, u could buy 3-4 hi point jhp for the price of a Glock

I know. I thought about that, but please don't tempt me

 

[Jaywmustang]

Lol

 

[Edwardteach72]

U know, u could buy 3-4 hi point jhp for the price of a Glock

This is a good point. Hoping to make a decision today before I dwell on it excessively.

I know. I thought about that, but please don't tempt me

They will be releasing their newest c9 soon hopefully lmao

 

[Robin]

Get what you really want. It will save you money, regrets, and frustration.
Robin

 

[togmaster]

I would love to love Glocks because they are everywhere and you can get every aftermarket part imaginable. I just can't get comfortable with the grip angle.

 

[Blimey]

Bought a 34. Apparently I can get permission from the county same day I think (Wayne), but unfortunately the county clerk is literally on the other end of the county that I never go to, so couldn't make it out today.

Was not thrilled at the price, but I figured for once I wouldn't shortchange myself. If I'm not going to carry it anyway, may as well get the 34. Was on sale, plus I got a little taken off top because of a microscopic nick on the slide, so I ended up paying only a little more than online.

 

[prambo]

I would love to love Glocks because they are everywhere and you can get every aftermarket part imaginable. I just can't get comfortable with the grip angle.

I've always thought they were like gripping a potato. @swilliams likened it to a 2x4.

Springfield XDs work well for me.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Congrats on the purchase, @Blimey. I know that feeling well, the Putnam Clerk's office is about as far from my house as it gets. At least you don't have to take two days off (one to drop off and wait and one to go back).

Now. RANGE REPORT PLEASE.

 

[MilesTeg]

Let us know when your ready to talk upgrades. I like to window shop for other people.

 

[kev74]

Congratulations on the tupperware!

What are you getting next?

 

[Blimey]

Congratulations on the tupperware!

What are you getting next?

I don't even have money left in the budget for ammo now.

 

[kev74]

I don't even have money left in the budget for ammo now.

Budget? What's that?

I heard someone say once that you can save money on ammo if you start reloading.

 

[Bob]

I don't even have money left in the budget for ammo now.

That's why I buy a couple of boxes at a time and stash them for a rainy day.

I knew you were in the Rochester area, but I didn't realize you were in Wayne County. I could have brought my 34 and my 17 to work yesterday and we could have met up to burn some powder at Eastside Traders.

 

[Blimey]

That's why I buy a couple of boxes at a time and stash them for a rainy day.

I knew you were in the Rochester area, but I didn't realize you were in Wayne County. I could have brought my 34 and my 17 to work yesterday and we could have met up to burn some powder at Eastside Traders.

I have not heard of this place until your post. It's really close to me, too. Will definitely keep this place in mind.

Appreciate the offer, btw

Gonna have to take u a trip up to this place soon and check it out.

 

[Blimey]

And this concludes the thread. Thank you for everyone's input. It's quite the PITA having to buy a gun then cross half the state to get to the clerk's office, pay to get the gun added, then back to pick it up, but other than all the driving I did pick it up quickly.

 

[Camaro45th]

Alrighty, I took the advice to go try some today! Firing pin's selection is extensive.

First tried Glock 17L, which is a close approximation to the 34 (they didn't have one). I'm an amateur with pistols so I can't really pretend it was "really accurate". I'm sure it was, but I'm not.

Next up a gen 4 and 5 Glock 19. The trigger on the 4 was yucky and I'm sure this was just because the gun needed to be cleaned. I only got one shot off on that because the Gen 5 mag did not take in it, so loaded one into the top for fun. I guess these are just the same as a 17 except smaller sight radius.

Next up was the HK VP9, which felt amazing. The grip on it really is nice. I absolutely hated the mag release. I think my hands are average size but it is impossible to hit it with my thumb without really twisting the gun a lot. I see online a lot of people use their trigger or middle finger to release it from the other side, which seems a good idea but potentially unsafe. I guess a person could get used to it. Guy said HK is supposed to be coming out with a grip-button release.

Then came the SW MP (something or other--not sure on model). This gun felt awesome, with nice stipling in the handle. My only issue was the thumb safety and I realize I do not like them. Again, I'm a newb, I could probably get used to one, but for a range gun it seems particularly pointless.

Lastly CZ P10C, which I liked a lot and had no complaints about.

Summary
Glock: Like them fine, but actually dislike the rear site being squared off with a circular front (none of the other guns had this)
VP9: felt great, disliked mag release
SW MP: Very nice, don't like thumb safety
CZ P10C: no complaints at all

I see above that there is a version of the SW MP 2.0 without a thumb safety, and the damn things are cheap. This could be a contender, or the CZ P10C.
However, all of these guns I suspect will be less accurate than the Glock 34 (unless I put optics on) due to the smaller site radius.

I'm not surprised to have found that all of them overall got the job done. I also handled, but did not fire, the P75 CZ, which is all metal and very heavy.

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Vp9B is available. A friend had it about 2 weeks ago at the range. No paddle release, standard button

 

[Bob]

And this concludes the thread. Thank you for everyone's input. It's quite the PITA having to buy a gun then cross half the state to get to the clerk's office, pay to get the gun added, then back to pick it up, but other than all the driving I did pick it up quickly.

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Congrats. Now if the sights were your primary complaint about the Glock, that is easily remedied. They are WELL supported in the aftermarket world. I recommend offerings from Trijicon, XS, TruGlo, or Meprolight depending on your preferences.

 

[Robin]

So, piece by piece you can make it into the gun you wanted.
Robin

 

[GunXpatriot]

If you wanted to go absolute cheapest, for the absolute best gun possible, a Beretta 92S from Classic Firearms would be a hell of a deal. $279 for a combat-proven handgun is fine by me. Same for the Star BM they're offering for only $189. Basically a single-stack 9mm 1911 (it isn't actually).

But the 92S is not without its problems, and I'm not even sure on the scale of those issues myself. I wouldn't be sure on availability of 10 round magazines, though I'm almost 100% sure they wouldn't be hard to obtain. As for the Star, it aught to be a great gun for you, but you're also sacrificing a couple of rounds in capacity (8 round mags), and a little bulky. Really a piece of old-school iron.

Moving up, a Canik TP9SF/SA are also going to be amazing options and can apparently compete with the best of 'em, but at a price that's tough to beat. Other than that, I don't see any issue going with the mainstream offerings from Glock, S&W (M&P 9mm Gen 2) which I've been lusting after, or an XDm. I guess there are other budget options from more obscure manufacturers, but if you're already prepared to drop $400-700, might as well go with the mainstream offerings IMO.

 

[Bustedknees]

I've never been a Glock fan mostly because of their looks and the crappy factory blue job on the slides I see 0n many of them... BUT I am growing more curious about them but also totally lost with their 5 generations of guns that all look alike.. So I thought I did the smart thing by navigating their foreign Web site to order a current catalog to compare all their models..After waiting a month and forgetting about it until I received a FedEx email I received this package but still no catalog

 

[BDinPutnam]

So, piece by piece you can make it into the gun you wanted.
Robin

No way he'll ever get a CZ slide to fit on a Glock frame.

Oh what HE wanted.