Why is burning a pride flag a hate crime yet burning the American flag free speech?

[Saltwater60]

Rainbow Flag Again Burned Outside Harlem Gay Bar

Serious question. It’s so important that Andy has his goon squad on it. Can’t bother with MS-13 or terrorists, but a guy burning the flag that’s our #1 priority.

 

[tirwin1]

Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others apparently.

It's an outstanding question because it gets to the heart of the hypocrisy within the left.

 

[wirehairfan]

I had this exact same question. Really shows the outrageousness of "hate crimes".

 

[Cooolone]

Well I may just volunteer as the culprit so I can collect my check of free monies if the dare arrest me and detain me for a well established "Right" of expression!

Burning a symbol is not a form of hate! And until they start sending all of us who don't agree with the "agenda" to "re-education camps" they'll just have to pick up their panties and suck it up!

Lmao

 

[RayKnobs]

Perhaps the pride flag represent one small specific minority while the American flag covers not only the gays but also the burners?
Perhaps it's motive. burning a pride flag show malice toward people, burning an American flag shows malice towards a political system?

 

[Karpteach]

Big brother.

 

[northny]

If the person had purchased and burned a rainbow flag that he owned it would be free speech. Since he burned a flag owned by someone else it’s vandalism.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Perhaps the pride flag represent one small specific minority while the American flag covers not only the gays but also the burners?
Perhaps it's motive. burning a pride flag show malice toward people, burning an American flag shows malice towards a political system?

Or burning say, I dunno... a cross on a black family's front lawn.

 

[tirwin1]

Perhaps the pride flag represent one small specific minority while the American flag covers not only the gays but also the burners?
Perhaps it's motive. burning a pride flag show malice toward people, burning an American flag shows malice towards a political system?

"Perhaps?" Assuming the motivation of the individual burning the flag doesn't seem to me to be sufficient cause to make something illegal. Following that logic I am certain even a mediocre lawyer could make the case that burning a gay pride flag (or any flag) is a political act.

 

[JamieZ]

Burn your own gay flag and its free speech,,,,burn someone else's and you broke the law.

Same goes for burning the American flag

 

[Apeman]

Burn your own gay flag and its free speech,,,,burn someone else's and you broke the law.

Same goes for burning the American flag

Yes you broke the law but you didn't commit a hate crime. Just theft and vandalism. I wonder if they do catch the guy if the prosecutor would actually try to bring it as a hate crime?

 

[Jem45472]

Welcome to the "new America"

 

[Burzum]

Criminal statutes are supposed to criminalize actions, whereas so-called hate crimes criminalize thought.

Civil Libertarian attorneys, aka "bleeding heart liberals" use to care about such things but now it does not matter, it is all about tearing down the Republic and pushing a new agenda.

 

[maverick52]

Why? Because the left hates America and loves gay people. Simple.

 

[GOPerfect]

I think it is ridiculous that this would ever be considered a hate crime.

First off, I do not agree with any of the hate laws. A giant crock of shit.

Second, if someone buys something, to include this stupid looking flag and decides to ignite it, so be it.

This flag that some hold so dear is filled with ideas of inclusion and hate. I say burn em all.

We need not this hate that these groups represent!

 

[Acer-m14]

can i burn the NY State Flag

 

[Saltwater60]

If the person had purchased and burned a rainbow flag that he owned it would be free speech. Since he burned a flag owned by someone else it’s vandalism.

But it doesn’t say that in the article. Also stealing a flag is not a hate crime that’s petty theft.

 

[Mosinitis]

LGBT is not about tolerance, it's about control. The word "tolerance" is hardly even mentioned anymore. Alternative lifestyles are being actively promoted and nations which are not in step with this garbage are criticized and put on the defensive.

 

[Bigfoot]

IDK, IMHO, it may be not much more than a "fuck you very much" type of thing...
"In your fucking face" -- Ya know where I'm coming from? ... Do ya?

I'm a mother fucking a chainsaw
I'll skin your ass raw
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break your fucking face tonight!

GIVE ME SOMETHING TO BREAK!

 

[E the massive]

How come destroying or removing political signs is not considered a hate crime? Destroying/removing statues?

 

[northny]

But it doesn’t say that in the article. Also stealing a flag is not a hate crime that’s petty theft.

The flags had been donated to bar after original one burned. (Near end of article) Property of bar not flagburner.

 

[Saltwater60]

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The flags had been donated to bar after original one burned. (Near end of article) Property of bar not flagburner.

The article said two flags were donated. It didn’t say specifically one of those was the o es that were burned. I think the article leads you to believe that, but it didn’t specifically say that.

Even if it was one stolen and burned there does that make it a hate crime? If some one steals my property and burns it on my property is that a hate crime against me?
Not saying this isn’t a hate crime I’m just saying nothing we know now points that way and the people who burn the American flag hate America that I know.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Perhaps the pride flag represent one small specific minority while the American flag covers not only the gays but also the burners?
Perhaps it's motive. burning a pride flag show malice toward people, burning an American flag shows malice towards a political system?

It’s still not a hate crime.Burning the blue line flag is also covered by free speech. Burning any symbol is covered for the most part. Bible and Quran burning are covered. They could get these clowns for other charges though. It was nit their property and it was not burned in a safe manner.