Why It Matters When New York's Governor Spits on SCOTUS's Defense of Religious Freedom

[livingston]

Why It Matters When New York's Governor Spits on SCOTUS's Defense of Religious Freedom
Why It Matters When New York's Governor Spits on SCOTUS's Defense of Religious Freedom - American Thinker
By Jeffrey Folks




During the COVID-19 epidemic, Gov. Cuomo of New York and other governors have tried to shut down or limit attendance at America's churches. Recently, the Supreme Court ruled that Cuomo's COVID response, which limited church attendance to as few as ten or lower, violates the constitutional right to freedom of religion. It may be that the ruling has broad applicability to religious services throughout New York, as well as to those in California and all other states.


Gov. Cuomo's response to the Court's ruling was telling: he dismissed the judicial opinion because the situation on the ground had changed since the case was filed on Oct. 6, and he vowed to continue his restriction of church services at locations other than those mentioned in the Court's ruling. "I think this was really just an opportunity for the court to express its philosophy and politics," Cuomo stated.

Religious liberty is at the heart of our national identity. For a top liberal opinion-maker to say defending it is just "politics" is horrifying.

Sadly, in another display of judicial impotence, Chief Justice John Roberts dissented from the 5-4 ruling. He wrote that since conditions had changed, the Court should avoid addressing "a serious and difficult question." Bizarrely, he justified inaction based on the fact that it is "a significant matter to override determinations made by public health officials." Isn't the Supreme Court designed specifically to decide "serious and difficult" questions? Doesn't the Supreme Court of the United States have the authority to override the determinations of New York state health officials? If it lacks that authority, it has no authority at all.

Why It Matters When New York's Governor Spits on SCOTUS's Defense of Religious Freedom

During the COVID-19 epidemic, Gov. Cuomo of New York and other governors have tried to shut down or limit attendance at America's churches. Recently, the Supreme Court ruled that Cuomo's COVID response, which limited church attendance to as f...

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[Grimscale]

Why should anyone be surprised.
Hasn't he been spitting on the S.C.'s Heller decision all this time?

If The Tyrant can ignore the Supreme Court's ruling on Constitutional issues, then we can ignore decrees and/or Laws that come out of The Tyrant's administration. He has already suspended the rule of law, he cannot then try to enforce it again.

 

[fresch]

Trying to change the name of N.Y. To Andy cumholeville, anyone like to help? I "feel" it is far more appropriate.

 

[Blimey]

Freedom of speech is still safe, for now.

Evidently even the scotus doesn’t prize freedom of assembly anymore. The constitution is just a romantic piece of paper more each year.

there is a mechanism to modify the constitution and it should have been attempted (limit assembly for a pandemic) to see if it would pass. Instead governors just decided to ignore it and scotus lacks the bravery to shut it down 9:0.

 

[Toecutter]

What hasn't he been arrested? He is breaking the law . Should he not have his door kicked in in the middle of the night , have his dog shot and dragged out of his bed at gunpoint? Thats what would happen to any of us .

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

SCOTUS is actually to blame for this bc they set a precedent by determining NYSRPA vs NYC moot. This has nothing to do with that case, but cuomo knows he can claim SCOTUS rulings are irrelevant if the 'law' was temporary or is no longer in effect.

 

[Bigfoot]

Cuomo Cuomo he's our man... Said no freedom loving American ever.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Can't go to Church but You can gather at the Gallarea Mall. Money and ego talks.

 

[Saltwater60]

Can't go to Church but You can gather at the Gallarea Mall. Money and ego talks.

And the casinos.
I agree this can’t stand. If this stand they are free to do as they please. The feds need to arrest him for civil rights violations during his press conference.

 

[Jmac00]

at some point, WE THE POEPLE have to grow a pair and just open for business. WE THE PEOPLE need to ignore any and all orders from Saint Andrew of Covid.

he will threaten us with jail, fines and license revocation, WE MUST KEEP GOING. we must stand together, we must (as patrons) must go to these establishment's and support them, if the owners get arrested, the property must stay open, they must continue to operate.
THE only way to put a tyrant in his place is to ignore them.

Saint Andrew of Covid can't arrest everyone, even if he could impose a fine, the courts should through the fine out. Its unconstitutional to lock healthy people in their homes to avoid getting a survivable virus.

yes, we are all probably going to get the virus, many of us probably have either already got it, or have it and are asymptomatic. The vaccine is a distraction. When you need to shots, a month apart, that tells me the vaccine isn't worth a shit. and no one knows how long the vaccine will last, is it going to be like the Flu shot, get a new one every year, is the virus going to mutate every year??? no one knows, not even flippy-floppy Fauci

 

[Steal2B]

Cuomo Sucks​

 

[Mr. terzmo]

"yes, we are all probably going to get the virus, many of us probably have either already got it, or have it and are asymptomatic. The vaccine is a distraction. "

I assume by the statement this person is not in their late 50's on up and have lung/heart or other issues. This is,my opinion,of a younger person who lives in their own world because they are young.

I was forced to take the flu shot 35 years ago in the military. I still get it yearly and do get minor symptoms sometimes like a runny nose or slight cough but nothing like the flu and it's crappy affects on the body and miss work because of it.

 

[Grimscale]

I was forced to take the flu shot 35 years ago in the military. I still get it yearly and do get minor symptoms sometimes like a runny nose or slight cough but nothing like the flu and it's crappy affects on the body and miss work because of it.

And I, who have never gotten a flu shot in my life, can't even remember the last time I had the actual flu, and not just a strong cold.

Because I don't stand around if someone is hacking their lungs out, and refrain from picking my nose immediately after touching a public doorknob.

anecdotal "evidence" is about as useful as a third thumb.

If it works for you, great. More power to ya!
But it's not for everyone.

This is,my opinion,of a younger person who lives in their own world because they are young.

Or just someone who lives in their own world because they have reviewed the information available and come to the conclusion that it is not as scary as we are being force-fed. you know, personal responsibility.

 

[livingston]

SCOTUS is actually to blame for this bc they set a precedent by determining NYSRPA vs NYC moot. This has nothing to do with that case, but cuomo knows he can claim SCOTUS rulings are irrelevant if the 'law' was temporary or is no longer in effect.
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[Jmac00]

"yes, we are all probably going to get the virus, many of us probably have either already got it, or have it and are asymptomatic. The vaccine is a distraction. "

I assume by the statement this person is not in their late 50's on up and have lung/heart or other issues. This is,my opinion,of a younger person who lives in their own world because they are young.

I was forced to take the flu shot 35 years ago in the military. I still get it yearly and do get minor symptoms sometimes like a runny nose or slight cough but nothing like the flu and it's crappy affects on the body and miss work because of it.

you assume wrong, Im 66, my left foot is broken, my right rotator cuff has to be repaired (hopefully soon) from a rollover crash but otherwise im in pretty good shape, for the shape Im in.

the point is, this virus is not going away. it will be here forever, just like SARS and Bird flu and all the rest. the most susceptible should take precautions. But if you. or any politician thinks Im going to be wearing a mask 24/7, you're severely mistaken.

The problem is, the Main stream propaganda machine is pounding fear into everyone's head. I mean constant, non-stop "you're all going to die if you don't comply" type fear. Covid-19 is not the death sentence everyone thinks it is.

My BIL and his brother and their parents all have the virus,, isolated in there own homes. My SIl and nephew live on the first floor while her husband lives on the second floor. My Brother in Laws parents are in there 80's, both have had cancer and lung problems and are compromised, but they are recovering from home, everyone is getting better everyday without added medical attention. this is survivable even if you're old.

 

[livingston]

you assume wrong, Im 66, my left foot is broken, my right rotator cuff has to be repaired (hopefully soon) from a rollover crash but otherwise im in pretty good shape, for the shape Im in.

the point is, this virus is not going away. it will be here forever, just like SARS and Bird flu and all the rest. the most susceptible should take precautions. But if you. or any politician thinks Im going to be wearing a mask 24/7, you're severely mistaken.

The problem is, the Main stream propaganda machine is pounding fear into everyone's head. I mean constant, non-stop "you're all going to die if you don't comply" type fear. Covid-19 is not the death sentence everyone thinks it is.

My BIL and his brother and their parents all have the virus,, isolated in there own homes. My SIl and nephew live on the first floor while her husband lives on the second floor. My Brother in Laws parents are in there 80's, both have had cancer and lung problems and are compromised, but they are recovering from home, everyone is getting better everyday without added medical attention. this is survivable even if you're old.

I have read /heard that there are genetic issues involved Some folks have a cytokine storm and its a killer at least was . .. Other folks get just a runny nose .. A lot depends upon a certain gene that you may or may not have .. Then one has all the other factors .. respiratory disfunction .. Asthma and the like. .. My brother has some church members that went to the hospital. . One person was in bad shape breathing wise . Husband drove ... sick person sat next to him .. His wife was in the back seat. Took about 45 minutes to get to the hospital... The passenger had full blown covid it turns out. The husband also got covid .. worst 3 days in his life .. He said he felt like he had a hundred pound anvil on his chest. They finally gave him what they gave Trump... 8 hours later he was almost back to normal breathing wise .. His wife never got covid.. .. At least tested positive .. So one looks at this and says ... How could this be ... She was in the same car for almost an hour . and no doubt road back home in the front seat .where the covid person sat.
There was a person that was gay lived in sanfransicko .. He went to the bath houses and had hundreds of sex partners ..many who died of aids .. He was tested a lot.. while everyone almost died of aids he was always aids free.. Turns out he had a gene that protected him. A gene that was common to northern European people , They suspect that this gene protected people from the black death in the middle ages They think this same gene was the reason this fellow did not ever get aids
Is the same thing going on here .. Some people have a gene that protects some folks or when lacking they die ?
Just throwing this out there for folks to chew on .

 

[Howdy]

My immediate reaction to the church bans was that it was relegating religious beliefs to a lesser category of importance. Meaning you could still have your religious beliefs, but in the eyes of the law they're closer to a hobby or rooting for a baseball team. The government's demands come first, your religious beliefs come second. It's just one more of the government's baby step towards totalitarianism

 

[fresch]

And I, who have never gotten a flu shot in my life, can't even remember the last time I had the actual flu, and not just a strong cold.

Because I don't stand around if someone is hacking their lungs out, and refrain from picking my nose immediately after touching a public doorknob.

anecdotal "evidence" is about as useful as a third thumb.

If it works for you, great. More power to ya!
But it's not for everyone.



Or just someone who lives in their own world because they have reviewed the information available and come to the conclusion that it is not as scary as we are being force-fed. you know, personal responsibility.

I personally would love to have a third thumb, hand, arm, freakin useful as a three breasted you know the things.

 

[Phazer]

This is just another governmental overreach that has been tacitly sanctioned by wayward courts.

Can you imagine the response of the nation's founders to a government that:

• Required a permit for hunting for food
• Made it illegal to congregate at houses of worship
• Told you how many guests you could host at your private home
• Told you what you are required to wear
• Would not let you use medications that you and your private physician believed would help you
• Insisted that you take a medical therapy against your will
• Levied excessive taxes
• Deprived citizens of their ability to defend themselves

Wait... we don't have to imagine. They declared independence from such a tyrannical government, explained their reasoning for their separation from such rule, and marshaled military force to resist the tyranny.

Can the original American spirit be awakened?

 

[spat]

Freedom of speech is still safe, for now.

Evidently even the scotus doesn’t prize freedom of assembly anymore. The constitution is just a romantic piece of paper more each year.

there is a mechanism to modify the constitution and it should have been attempted (limit assembly for a pandemic) to see if it would pass. Instead governors just decided to ignore it and scotus lacks the bravery to shut it down 9:0.

Has anyone brought a case to SCOTUS on this ?

They can't shut something down until it gets to them, and if the lower courts intentionally drag their feet they can make it take years.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

This is just another governmental overreach that has been tacitly sanctioned by wayward courts.

Can you imagine the response of the nation's founders to a government that:

• Required a permit for hunting for food
• Made it illegal to congregate at houses of worship
• Told you how many guests you could host at your private home
• Told you what you are required to wear
• Would not let you use medications that you and your private physician believed would help you
• Insisted that you take a medical therapy against your will
• Levied excessive taxes
• Deprived citizens of their ability to defend themselves

Wait... we don't have to imagine. They declared independence from such a tyrannical government, explained their reasoning for their separation from such rule, and marshaled military force to resist the tyranny.

Can the original American spirit be awakened?

The original American spirit is at least still alive in some. There just don't seem to be enough of us left to effect a meaningful change. We risk becoming terrorists once that spirit is awakened.

 

[Blimey]

Has anyone brought a case to SCOTUS on this ?

They can't shut something down until it gets to them, and if the lower courts intentionally drag their feet they can make it take years.

The case for NY they found against, but barely. I suspect covid would support some on the court doing what other state courts have done which is basically say it's okay this is a special circumstance, you can get your 1st amendment back later.

 

[maverick52]

My immediate reaction to the church bans was that it was relegating religious beliefs to a lesser category of importance. Meaning you could still have your religious beliefs, but in the eyes of the law they're closer to a hobby or rooting for a baseball team. The government's demands come first, your religious beliefs come second. It's just one more of the government's baby step towards totalitarianism

Just like 2A is relegated to a lesser category of importance. This the left. They hate the constitution. They hate freedom

 

[spat]

The case for NY they found against, but barely. I suspect covid would support some on the court doing what other state courts have done which is basically say it's okay this is a special circumstance, you can get your 1st amendment back later.

Special circumstances have an unfortunate habit of becoming permanent.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I assume by the statement this person is not in their late 50's on up and have lung/heart or other issues. This is,my opinion,of a younger person who lives in their own world because they are young.

you assume wrong, Im 66, my left foot is broken, my right rotator cuff has to be repaired (hopefully soon) from a rollover crash but otherwise im in pretty good shape, for the shape Im in.