Why no NIBIN?

[Criticalt]

I may be an idiot because this is the first time I have heard of this technology, The National Integrated Ballistic Information Network.
Apparently if used correctly it is a great tool that is aimed at the criminals, not the law abiding.
The few cities that use it say things like "fantastic", "invaluable" and "outstanding technology".
However, because of the manpower needed, 1 person, most cities will not use it and if they do, they use it improperly by not adding information properly.
The LEOS that do use it say it solves gun crimes and is a great deterrent.

For those that dont know, this is how it works.
Every bullet casing found at a crime scene is analyzed and photographed. Also, all guns found or taken from bad guys are added to the system.
Now, they can connect guns and shells with crimes.
Its a deterrent because criminals dont want a gun with "bodies" on them or guns used in multiple crimes. So they dont want to buy a gun off the street that may have many murders connected if they get caught with it.
As far as the cost. Many LEOs are saying that with all the money being spent now on fighting gun crimes, nothing is working. At least the NIBIN system has an effect on gun crime without penalizing law abiding gun owners.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...6dac1c-4d29-11e6-a422-83ab49ed5e6a_story.html

 

[GOYABEAN]

I may be an idiot because this is the first time I have heard of this technology, The National Integrated Ballistic Information Network.
Apparently if used correctly it is a great tool that is aimed at the criminals, not the law abiding.
The few cities that use it say things like "fantastic", "invaluable" and "outstanding technology".
However, because of the manpower needed, 1 person, most cities will not use it and if they do, they use it improperly by not adding information properly.
The LEOS that do use it say it solves gun crimes and is a great deterrent.

For those that dont know, this is how it works.
Every bullet casing found at a crime scene is analyzed and photographed. Also, all guns found or taken from bad guys are added to the system.
Now, they can connect guns and shells with crimes.
Its a deterrent because criminals dont want a gun with "bodies" on them or guns used in multiple crimes. So they dont want to buy a gun off the street that may have many murders connected if they get caught with it.
As far as the cost. Many LEOs are saying that with all the money being spent now on fighting gun crimes, nothing is working. At least the NIBIN system has an effect on gun crime without penalizing law abiding gun owners.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...6dac1c-4d29-11e6-a422-83ab49ed5e6a_story.html

It must seem easier to group law abiding citizens with criminals two birds with one Stone mentally

 

[S&W Fan]

It must seem easier to group law abiding citizens with criminals two birds with one Stone " Mentality"

Fixed it for ya

 

[Criticalt]

It must seem easier to group law abiding citizens with criminals two birds with one Stone mentally

Its just disgusting that cities that use the system properly are solving crimes and cold cases.....lots of them.
This is blatant proof that politicians dont want to lower gun crime. Its not the police that dont want to use it, its the politicians that wont pay for it.

 

[Trauma47645]

ummm.. what about the criminals with half a brain that collect a bunch of fired brass, and then "salt" the crime scene with brass from innocent peoples firearms..

 

[ProgSpear]

Maryland scraps gun "fingerprint" database after 15 failed years

When will these freakin' idiots realize the only "magic bullet" that solves crime comes from the gun of law abiding citizen or a cop, or at least the threat thereof?

 

[GOYABEAN]

ummm.. what about the criminals with half a brain that collect a bunch of fired brass, and then "salt" the crime scene with brass from innocent peoples firearms..

Those are called politicians

 

[Trauma47645]

Those are called politicians

I said criminals with half a brain..

Not criminals with no brain and thier hand halfway into my wallet

 

[GOYABEAN]

I said criminals with half a brain..

Not criminals with no brain and thier hand halfway into my wallet

Well let's not split hair's

 

[Saltwater60]

I was watching a show and they said that once the gu a have bodies on them or other crimes they sell them to Mexico. They are made in the Philippines with fake serial numbers shipped here, used in crimes, then shipped to Mexico. So now the USA and its guns get blamed for murders here and in Mexico. We can't win.

 

[C3D]

 

[JRtraderny]

Very similar to NY's COBIS system that was shut down without ever solving a crime.

 

[4excal]

Meh. I doubt the hard criminal that are at the point of actually buying the illegal gun are gonna set up a screening process for their sellers.. I can see it now..at a country club sipping zinfindel wine asking questions.."so has this gun had more than 3 murders attached to it? Has this gun been put through the system? Has this gun ever been used for robbery?..I'll get back to on the purchase, still have 12 more candidates to screen. But trust me, I may buy your .38. Thank you for your time"
Nnnno. They're gonna buy the gun they find and can afford and do the crime.

 

[Vantrepes]

Very similar to NY's COBIS system that was shut down without ever solving a crime.

One major difference:
In this case, the cases and information is collected at the crime scene. The gun has already been used in a crime. They compare the cases from the crime scene with cases found at other crime scene, and link the firearm to both of them. That way, the person caught with that firearm can be implicated in both criminal cases, or at least be pushed to provide leads to solving the linked case.
With COBIS, they took cases from legally purchases, and owned firearms, and collected them all up. The vast majority of those guns were never used in a crime, and just showed up for a range trip or two. There was nothing to indicate the COBIS cases would ever be useful in solving crime, and in fact, they never did.