Will the world consider the taliban a government?

[Saltwater60]

This article essentially establishes the taliban as a recognized government and saying they will pay them 10 billion in funding if they allow people to leave safely. I think this is very dangerous.
I wonder if they would have accepted the January 6th contingent as a new government had they have succeeded? I think not so why are they doing this with the taliban? This makes me think this was all known and planned.

The Taliban tried to get their hands on the Afghan central bank's nearly $10 billion in reserves, but most of the money is in New York

Most of Afghanistan's roughly $9.5 billion in assets were frozen by the US last week after the Taliban swiftly took control of the country.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[GOYABEAN]

Don't forget we're living in the woke twilight zone where anything is possible

 

[livingston]

Soon a plane load of cash will land and the Taliban will allow Americans to depart on the same plane after it has been unloaded..

 

[libertysnake]

Soon a plane load of cash will land and the Taliban will allow Americans to depart on the same plane after it has been unloaded..

... or we could just buy a bunch of laser guided missiles considering all of their leadership is in Kabul right now, and strike a strategic blow to them.

Just saying if the cockroaches are going to crawl out of the darkness now is a good time to squash them.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

And prior to 9/11 we were the only country on the planet to have diplomatic relations with them.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

We have a drooling idiot running our country so why not the Taliban as a legitimate government?

 

[SonOfSun]

We have a drooling idiot running our country so why not the Taliban as a legitimate government?

At least Joey boy didn't want to bring the taliban to Camp David, lol.

Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders

President Donald Trump said Saturday he canceled a secret weekend meeting at Camp David with Taliban and Afghanistan leaders after a bombing in the past week in Kabul that killed 12 people, including an American soldier, and has called off peace negotiations with the insurgent group.

www.militarytimes.com

But no, they shouldn't be recognized. Both Joe and little Donny are mouth droolers here.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders

President Donald Trump said Saturday he canceled a secret weekend meeting at Camp David with Taliban and Afghanistan leaders after a bombing in the past week in Kabul that killed 12 people, including an American soldier, and has called off peace negotiations with the insurgent group.

www.militarytimes.com

Ahhhhh, yes. Drew my favorite troll out from the shadows. Hard to resist, isn't it?

 

[SonOfSun]

Ahhhhh, yes. Drew my favorite troll out from the shadows. Hard to resist, isn't it?

Not hard to resist, just easy to paint a fool. Ie. When my guy does it, it is good (trump), when the other guy does it its bad (biden). Be consistent or be mocked.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Not hard to resist, just easy to paint a fool. Ie. When my guy does it, it is good (trump), when the other guy does it its bad (biden). Be consistent or be mocked.

So what does a Trump meeting negotiating peace talks have to do with Biden stranding Americans in hostile territory facing certain death and handing over billions in weapons to radical terrorists? Maybe a fool shouldn't be casting stones?

 

[Saltwater60]

... or wecould just buy a bunch of laser guided missiles considering all of their leadership is in Kabul right now, and strike a strategic blow to them.

Just saying if the cockroaches are going to crawl out of the darkness now is a good time to squash them.

We have a pussy as a president so I’m going with money

 

[Saltwater60]

Not hard to resist, just easy to paint a fool. Ie. When my guy does it, it is good (trump), when the other guy does it its bad (biden). Be consistent or be mocked.

What was Trump’s equivalent to this complete disaster and allowing the taliban to handle us? I mean really this is a complete joke at this point. It’s so bad even the media is beating him up over it and the White House is cutting off the microphone for his comments? He will literally kill Americans and afghans all while allowing terrorists into this country.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Can't wait til they open up an embassy in Portland.

 

[GOPerfect]

Of course they will. If this continues down the path that they are wanting and aiming for, yes. They will be the official government and the World will treat them that way.

The actual government turned and ran away. They left their people.

 

[spat]

At least Joey boy didn't want to bring the taliban to Camp David, lol.

Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders

President Donald Trump said Saturday he canceled a secret weekend meeting at Camp David with Taliban and Afghanistan leaders after a bombing in the past week in Kabul that killed 12 people, including an American soldier, and has called off peace negotiations with the insurgent group.

www.militarytimes.com

But no, they shouldn't be recognized. Both Joe and little Donny are mouth droolers here.

Maybe he should have and organized an orderly withdrawal.

If you're going to hand over the country to them, you probably ought to have a meeting.

Seems like everyone on both sides agreed we needed to hand over the country.

So, who's the greater fool, the guy who wanted to negotiate the handover, or the idiot who wanted to pretend it wasn't happening.

 

[SonOfSun]

So what does a Trump meeting negotiating peace talks have to do with Biden stranding Americans in hostile territory facing certain death and handing over billions in weapons to radical terrorists?

Doesn't have anything to do with it... because that's not what I was talking about.

Let me help point out what I was talking about - your words here: We have a drooling idiot running our country so why not the Taliban as a legitimate government?

You seem to be criticizing Biden for recognizing the Taliban as legitimate. But when Trump was inviting the Taliban to fucking Camp David I don't recall you being against that. You don't invite foreign officials of governments you don't recognize to C. David. Why the position change now?

 

[SonOfSun]

Maybe he should have and organized an orderly withdrawal.

If you're going to hand over the country to them, you probably ought to have a meeting.

Seems like everyone on both sides agreed we needed to hand over the country.

So, who's the greater fool, the guy who wanted to negotiate the handover, or the idiot who wanted to pretend it wasn't happening.

They're both fools (Biden and Trump) for recognizing the Taliban as legitimate govts. among the world community. Yeah, sorry you don't meet with fucking terrorists about handing the country over to them. Not saying we should stay there forever, but don't meet with them either. Biden has very clearly failed on a successful withdrawl from Afghanistan.

 

[SonOfSun]

What was Trump’s equivalent to this complete disaster and allowing the taliban to handle us? I mean really this is a complete joke at this point. It’s so bad even the media is beating him up over it and the White House is cutting off the microphone for his comments? He will literally kill Americans and afghans all while allowing terrorists into this country.

Oh I agree that Biden's Afghanistan performance has been a miserable failure. My response was directly related to criticism of Biden recognizing the Taliban when Trump did the same darn thing and it was all hunky dory when he did it, I wasn't saying anything beyond that.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Doesn't have anything to do with it... because that's not what I was talking about.

Let me help point out what I was talking about - your words here: We have a drooling idiot running our country so why not the Taliban as a legitimate government?

You seem to be criticizing Biden for recognizing the Taliban as legitimate. But when Trump was inviting the Taliban to fucking Camp David I don't recall you being against that. You don't invite foreign officials of governments you don't recognize to C. David. Why the position change now?

That's not at all what I was saying. It just appeared you had an opportunity to bring Trump into something so you could hearken back to the glory days of dogpiling on Trump. Guess you miss him too.

 

[spat]

They're both fools (Biden and Trump) for recognizing the Taliban as legitimate govts. among the world community. Yeah, sorry you don't meet with fucking terrorists about handing the country over to them. Not saying we should stay there forever, but don't meet with them either. Biden has very clearly failed on a successful withdrawl from Afghanistan.

LOL, they *are* the defacto government.

Stomping your feet and plugging your ears will not change that.


If you are going to turn over the country, you'd better meet with the people you're turning it over to, whatever you think they are.

You don't make terrorists not terrorists by pretending they don't exist.

So, either you say "no, we're not turning this country over, you're a bunch of terrorists", or you say "I guess you're the new government, terrorists or not".

 

[Saltwater60]

Doesn't have anything to do with it... because that's not what I was talking about.

Let me help point out what I was talking about - your words here: We have a drooling idiot running our country so why not the Taliban as a legitimate government?

You seem to be criticizing Biden for recognizing the Taliban as legitimate. But when Trump was inviting the Taliban to fucking Camp David I don't recall you being against that. You don't invite foreign officials of governments you don't recognize to C. David. Why the position change now?

He was looking for peace between them not recognizing them as the leading government of Afghanistan. There’s a big difference. Trump said if you do xyz we will leave. Everyone wants us gone.
It sounds like if they don’t kill our people we will hand terrorists 10 billion in cash and assets not a good plan.

 

[meketrefe]

F--k the Taliban and f--k Afganistan.
How is that for a recognition?

 

[Phazer]

At least Joey boy didn't want to bring the taliban to Camp David, lol.

Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders

President Donald Trump said Saturday he canceled a secret weekend meeting at Camp David with Taliban and Afghanistan leaders after a bombing in the past week in Kabul that killed 12 people, including an American soldier, and has called off peace negotiations with the insurgent group.

www.militarytimes.com

But no, they shouldn't be recognized. Both Joe and little Donny are mouth droolers here.

Sometimes, you have to speak to your enemy in person to impress upon them just how goddamn serious you really are.

 

[Robin]

So technically, the Taliban are now in charge of the geopolitical zone called Afghanistan, a land made up from paranoid warring tribes, with different ethnicity, cultures, languages, and customs that know, and want to know nothing else, plus insurgency groups, many made up of jihaddies, some with foreigners, like ISIS, and Al-qaeda, but there are many , many others, some tenuously allied with the Taliban, most, not at all. I hope they get what they deserve.
Robin

 

[spat]

Oh I agree that Biden's Afghanistan performance has been a miserable failure. My response was directly related to criticism of Biden recognizing the Taliban when Trump did the same darn thing and it was all hunky dory when he did it, I wasn't saying anything beyond that.

They exist. The bullshit diplomatic "we will pretend they don't exist because we don't like them" thing is exactly that. Bullshit.

Trump recognized them because they *are* the predominant power in Afghanistan once we leave. Not doing that would be stupidity of Biden proportions.

Now, there's a big difference between recognizing them, and being their bitch.

Thanks to Biden, we are now their bitch.

If Trump had been in charge, I firmly believe we *would* have been out in May, and in an orderly fashion.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Cuomo for ambassador!

 

[Modean]

Oh I agree that Biden's Afghanistan performance has been a miserable failure. My response was directly related to criticism of Biden recognizing the Taliban when Trump did the same darn thing and it was all hunky dory when he did it, I wasn't saying anything beyond that.

When your response to what you admit is a spectacular failure on the part of the guy you chose to vote for is "but, but, but, Trump," you don't really have anything to say. You voted for it, hope its working well for you.

 

[SonOfSun]

When your response to what you admit is a spectacular failure on the part of the guy you chose to vote for is "but, but, but, Trump," you don't really have anything to say. You voted for it, hope its working well for you.

Mmmmm hmmmmmm...

Didn't vote for Biden because of his foreign policy... However you all feel about Cuomo is how I feel about Trump so....

Either way Trump isn't in charge of the WH anymore so he's largely irrelevant at this point.

 

[spat]

Mmmmm hmmmmmm...

Didn't vote for Biden because of his foreign policy... However you all feel about Cuomo is how I feel about Trump so....

Either way Trump isn't in charge of the WH anymore so he's largely irrelevant at this point.

The difference is that Cuomo has earned our distain.

If all Cuomo had issued a bunch of mean tweets while at the same time presiding over some of greatest accomplishments in decades, we would feel quite differently about him.



IIRC, the only non superficial complaint you had about Trump is that he spent a few bucks on a wall you don't think we needed.

Then your boy Biden went around and spent billions to *not* build the wall. Even if the wall didn’t reduced illegal immigration at all, at least it was a better welfare program than "here have an EBT card, enjoy your crack cocaine"

 

[SonOfSun]

The difference is that Cuomo has earned our distain.

If all Cuomo had issued a bunch of mean tweets while at the same time presiding over some of greatest accomplishments in decades, we would feel quite differently about him.



IIRC, the only non superficial complaint you had about Trump is that he spent a few bucks on a wall you don't think we needed.

Then your boy Biden went around and spent billions to *not* build the wall. Even if the wall didn’t reduced illegal immigration at all, at least it was a better welfare program than "here have an EBT card, enjoy your crack cocaine"

I've listed multiple reasons what Trump did to earn my ire at least 4-5 times. Not going to post if over again, but you can find it in my post history for sure.