Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Usually my wife counting how much I'm spending.
Worthless New York State Ammo Regulations
- Thread starter The weasel
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Bustedknees
.308 Win
Can we please get back to the matter at hand! This is a gun forum and we have a new member hunting deer with a .223 !!
I'm having a hard time not reporting this to the doughnut master..
I'm having a hard time not reporting this to the doughnut master..
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
What’s to report ?
Bustedknees
.308 Win
JRtraderny
6.5 Creedmoor
You should see what a .222 Rem does when it blows up in a deers lungs .
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
9mm ammo sales needs to be looked at hard going to intercity locations with addresses of known prohibited persons and lack of a pistol permit.
Sorry PCC owners, but ask yourself first, is your address intercity and does your location have a prohibited person?
Instead of a secret denial system with no criteria listed for what they are checking, the idea of denying a person who has the gun for the ammo makes little sense or could they secretly using the denials to spur ERPOs.
Why don't they have a secure website where a person could enter their information and it kicks back a report on what was checked and end standing in line to get rejected?
Sorry PCC owners, but ask yourself first, is your address intercity and does your location have a prohibited person?
Instead of a secret denial system with no criteria listed for what they are checking, the idea of denying a person who has the gun for the ammo makes little sense or could they secretly using the denials to spur ERPOs.
Why don't they have a secure website where a person could enter their information and it kicks back a report on what was checked and end standing in line to get rejected?
ManualF150
.308 Win
Because that makes too much sense.
I was in one of my LGS last week, and some poor sap ran into where they got delayed for like 2 days just to buy a few boxes of clay shot.
A right delayed is a right denied.
This was my previous question: If one were denied a purchase, would they not be Flagged and the SP alerted to the denial? would this not be enough to apply for a search warrant? Keeping in mind that a prohibited person cannot have guns or ammunition, denial of either could constitute illegal possession of one, the other, or both.
But that could lead to a paper trail that could be used in court against the State for violation of civil rights.
By just denying it and moving on you have no way of proving WHY it was denied, and no ability to get that information.
This is just another way to keep people from arming themselves, with the added benefit of knowing who owns guns by virtue of who buys ammo (or tries to).
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
You’d think it would be grounds to send a cop there and arrest them if they can’t own or possess ammo.
There are many reports of people buying a gun then trying to buy a box of ammo or two for the same gun they just bought and they were denied. We all know they are playing games and that’s what this is all about.
I'd also like to remind the viewers that a Third-Party Company is being paid by the transferee to conduct the BGC and the information they are supplied may by, likely is flawed.
Data collected can and will be used against you, to think otherwise is mental masturbation.
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
I was told this week by an FFL, the ammo system is a great way to find out if you are a prohibited person and they don't have the incriminating 4473.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Yes, but I’ll never use it
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
Permit me to VENT here guys as my other options for decompressing are likely bad choices:
I bought a new pistol last Wednesday and my FFL submitted the background check. I'm still showing a status of DELAYED per the NYS system as I type this. WTF.
Just thought I'd pass this along ...
Another successful NYS clusterfuck. Got to give them credit. It really is working as PLANNED isn't it??
I bought a new pistol last Wednesday and my FFL submitted the background check. I'm still showing a status of DELAYED per the NYS system as I type this. WTF.
Just thought I'd pass this along ...
Another successful NYS clusterfuck. Got to give them credit. It really is working as PLANNED isn't it??
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
Finally got a PROCEED...
Sigh...it used to be fun getting a new firearm.
Sigh...it used to be fun getting a new firearm.
Soon, you will LIKELY have to register all ammo you have in your possession.
Soon, you will LIKLEY have to register all guns you own.
Soon, you will LIKLEY have to register all knives you own...
Soon you will LIKELY have to register all bows and arrows.
IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION...ask the twins................Danny and Arnold.
Soon, you will LIKLEY have to register all guns you own.
Soon, you will LIKLEY have to register all knives you own...
Soon you will LIKELY have to register all bows and arrows.
IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION...ask the twins................Danny and Arnold.
Fuuuuuuck NY!
Buy it outside NY and ship to your FFL...
Buy ammo outside NY, deny them the sales tax $...
May be small acts, but they'll add up if everyone participates.
Wait until they add a TAX stamp on the ammo boxes like cigarettes! Wait for it ... And the fines should you be caught with any absent the stamp! Or better yet, the purchase limits for the capacity of the firearm (10 rounds) 1x per month!
NY is and always will be MALFEASANT towards it's minions who just go along with the program!
They don't talk much about the non-compliance with the Safe Act... CCIA too! And they won't... They'll never release any stats about enforcement and efficacy regarding impacting it's so called intent (crime)... And why?
Because the laws were never designed to address CRIME! They only made law abiding folk violators! The CRIMINAL was already violating laws! So hey, let's enact some more unconstitutional laws to make it look like we are doing something. That's what they do!
So yeah, Fuck NY!
One reason why I'm uprooting my life and moved to a friendly (2A) State, that although it has problems, it has none that these scared if their own shadow progressives protest will happen should they take their collective foot off the throats of it's residents!
Buy it outside NY and ship to your FFL...
Buy ammo outside NY, deny them the sales tax $...
May be small acts, but they'll add up if everyone participates.
Wait until they add a TAX stamp on the ammo boxes like cigarettes! Wait for it ... And the fines should you be caught with any absent the stamp! Or better yet, the purchase limits for the capacity of the firearm (10 rounds) 1x per month!
NY is and always will be MALFEASANT towards it's minions who just go along with the program!
They don't talk much about the non-compliance with the Safe Act... CCIA too! And they won't... They'll never release any stats about enforcement and efficacy regarding impacting it's so called intent (crime)... And why?
Because the laws were never designed to address CRIME! They only made law abiding folk violators! The CRIMINAL was already violating laws! So hey, let's enact some more unconstitutional laws to make it look like we are doing something. That's what they do!
So yeah, Fuck NY!
One reason why I'm uprooting my life and moved to a friendly (2A) State, that although it has problems, it has none that these scared if their own shadow progressives protest will happen should they take their collective foot off the throats of it's residents!
Just go get it yourself out of state, fuck shipping to a NY FFL. Otherwise, you're still paying them and they know what and how many your buying!!!
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It’s so bad I don’t want to get a background check and my sons friends want to go shooting so I told them fine get the ammo and we can go shooting. I’m not looking to let them use my ammo because I never want to do an ammo background check I’ll drive to PA or other neighboring states.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
I get it, I get it. But, I really feel for the FFL's and gun shops around the area. 4 within a 25 mile radius of where I live closed their doors this past year. I know some of these folks and for the most part they are really good hard working people. How long before there are none left in NYS?
Voting for change to oust the fuckers that make these laws is laughable. NY City makes my decisions for me and pretty much everyone else outside the metro.
Voting for change to oust the fuckers that make these laws is laughable. NY City makes my decisions for me and pretty much everyone else outside the metro.
I was in my local gunshop this afternoon when a firearms instructor for the NYSP was denied when he wanted to buy a box of .308s. He was pissed!
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
When ammo is outlawed only outlaws will have ammo.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
its been 1 year, 1 month, 22 days since I bought Ammo in NYS ..
If i remember correctly don't they ask for your employer and social media on the form LOL use it against them
F this state end every FFL that didn't put up a sign ..
If i remember correctly don't they ask for your employer and social media on the form LOL use it against them
F this state end every FFL that didn't put up a sign ..
Except this stage still puts you firmly within their control. They can still delay/deny you and then you have a gun sitting at the FFL rather than in your possession.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
There will be one or two left per county but this is what they want. They don’t want so and so to walk or drive by a gun shop and think well maybe I want a gun. Then they make it so hard to get a gun and ammo people will say forget it. It’s all about deterrence.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
State and government employees aren’t the problem it’s the politicians and staffer/lawyers. I know many state workers and they hate the crap that’s going on but if you’re halfway or closer to retirement it makes no sense to leave. Remember the government in NYS is the largest employer so it wouldn’t work well for the FFLs either.