The 'Truth in Vaccination' law NY State

[Saltwater60]

Piss on Hochul, what's the punishment for them lying to us? They declared war on us and it's gloves off. You think she'd apply that same thought process to voting documents in NY? I'm thinking politicians need a psychiatric competency card.

I agree, but that’s not what this thread is about. The government does break the law all the time. I’m sure on a daily basis actually.

 

[holdover]

I dont know any people that died of covid, but two people that died from heart attacks suspiciously after taking the shot. Cant prove it was related , but the fact stands.

 

[ManualF150]

I've been through COVID already without any problems. Was it a walk in the park? No, but I am also healthy, so that makes a huge difference.

So has quite a few vaxxed and unvaxxed friends and coworkers. No one has died or even needed hospitalization. I've witnessed well over 30 people have COVID. Various symptoms from bad to just sniffles. 50% of them were vaxxed or at least they said they were.

This is enough evidence for me not getting the jab.

If this "disease" was that bad, I would have an altered opinion and likely have gotten the jab myself.

On the other hand, folks that got the jab say they haven't felt right since and strongly urged me not to get it. Mostly the folks that got the booster recently.

 

[Acer-m14]

funny how they got this covid database to check if your covid card is real or a fake ..

and there is still no ammo database .. ... just thinking ..

 

[phatfarmerbob]

We never needed a laws like this in the past. Prior to the Ronahoax, did no one alter their vaccine cards?

That might tell you something right there.

No one should ever need to prove medical to enjoy the freedoms of life in the US of A. Period.

I will live and die a pure blood it’s my line in the sand period... as well as my wife and our son.. untill he’s 18 then i guess we’ll find out if we did a good job raising him.

had they not pushed and gaslighted so hard who knows I may have already gotten it but the writing is on the wall IMHO

 

[Cavalry]

I have an authentic vaccine card, but I definitely don't look like the name that is on it. I would never use it in an attempt to exercise Liberty. It is more of a collectable.

The previous owner better consider getting a few more shots now.

Anybody need the lot #'s?

Early on a couple states had scaled, 2 sided PDF copies of the card publicly available on .gov sites. They realized their folly and removed them but anyone worth a shit using a search engine can still find them in less than 5 mins.
As far as lot numbers, remember all those faceplace heros posting their vaccine cards? Its just too easy.
Not saying that it was me, but when the excelsior pass came out experiments were completed to see how easy it would be to use publicly available information to obtain the "official" pass for someone with a common name.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Early on a couple states had scaled, 2 sided PDF copies of the card publicly available on .gov sites. They realized their folly and removed them but anyone worth a shit using a search engine can still find them in less than 5 mins.
As far as lot numbers, remember all those faceplace heros posting their vaccine cards? Its just too easy.
Not saying that it was me, but when the excelsior pass came out experiments were completed to see how easy it would be to use publicly available information to obtain the "official" pass for someone with a common name.

The real card is the attached PDF. This is the one we should be carrying.

 

[Saltwater60]

I dont know any people that died of covid, but two people that died from heart attacks suspiciously after taking the shot. Cant prove it was related , but the fact stands.

I know a few that died of Covid, but I know a guy who had his moms sister and a cousin both had a stroke and died within 2 weeks of getting the vaccine. His mom is scared to death and refuses to get it. One doctor blew her off and said you’re over reacting just get it. I said he’ll no sounds messed up. She wanted to get tested for that blood clotting factor and he refused. She went elsewhere, dr said worries are valid, got the clotting test, it was positive, and dr said don’t do it.

 

[Saltwater60]

funny how they got this covid database to check if your covid card is real or a fake ..

and there is still no ammo database .. ... just thinking ..

There been a vaccine database for years and years. They just have access to it. Also the state is supplying the vaccine. I’m not sure how the pharmacies are tracking the shot to the state, but I’m assuming they are using the same database the state made to get it entered in and reported.
I worked at a vaccine site and all your information went right into a state database. This is why they can give you the excelsior pass. Many entered information in wrong and there were mass troubles with the excelsior pass linked up properly with the database.
I can tell you we had reactions and they tried to keep it quiet, we had plenty that had to delay their second shot due to getting Covid, the vears reporting system is a joke and rarely works, it was very hard to enter any side effects and I tried to help a few old folks do it and it never worked. There were times we had so many with reactions that they had to let them have issues right in the lobby since all the private room/areas were taken by others having issues. Most issues resolved rather quickly and were trouble breathing, rapid heart rates, and panic attacks.

 

[Darth]

This may not be popular, but I have no issue with this. If you’re not vaccinated say so and you know what the consequences are. Of going to dinner or the bills game is so important get vaccinated.
however this is a double edged sword because I don’t support being excluded from places or having to show your vax card to get in anywhere.
My thought in supporting this is of others around you think you are vaccinated and they make their choice on that and you’re falsifying that record then it’s negligent on your part. I was watching judge Judy and she said there will be lawsuits on this and I believe there will be.
Aslo keep in mind it’s a government record and your not allowed to falsify government records.

Not any more than people who make their decision based on other made up crap like fortune cookies or horoscopes or the Bible. I've no control over them making their own choices, and when the government can lie to us with impunity I have little sympathy.

And the thing preventing someone from entering false information in your name is...?

 

[Blimey]

I've been through COVID already without any problems. Was it a walk in the park? No, but I am also healthy, so that makes a huge difference.

So has quite a few vaxxed and unvaxxed friends and coworkers. No one has died or even needed hospitalization. I've witnessed well over 30 people have COVID. Various symptoms from bad to just sniffles. 50% of them were vaxxed or at least they said they were.

This is enough evidence for me not getting the jab.

If this "disease" was that bad, I would have an altered opinion and likely have gotten the jab myself.

On the other hand, folks that got the jab say they haven't felt right since and strongly urged me not to get it. Mostly the folks that got the booster recently.

I simply don’t believe your last paragraph. I think it’s made up. They “strongly urged” you not to get it? Hmm, I don’t think so.

fwiw booster made my wife feel like crap for a day. I had no symptomatic response to it or any of the other shots.

 

[Blimey]

How many unvaccinated people who died from covid do you know ?

I don't know any.

I have a vague connection to a total of one (parent of a coworker) and I don't believe he ever expressed any regrets for his choice.

My almost dead friend’s wife I must admit is too stupid to know better so still refuses to verbalize regret over their decisions.

all of the mea culpas I refer to are people i’ve come across online. And for those who doubt whether these peope even exist? Fair, but then you might as well doubt whether I exist as well. Maybe I am just a bot.

 

[Cavalry]

The real card is the attached PDF. This is the one we should be carrying.
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If someone were to go this route, it would be best not to use a color printer. Color printers have hidden codes that can ID the specific printer.

 

[BerettaGuy]

This may not be popular, but I have no issue with this. If you’re not vaccinated say so and you know what the consequences are. Of going to dinner or the bills game is so important get vaccinated.
however this is a double edged sword because I don’t support being excluded from places or having to show your vax card to get in anywhere.
My thought in supporting this is of others around you think you are vaccinated and they make their choice on that and you’re falsifying that record then it’s negligent on your part. I was watching judge Judy and she said there will be lawsuits on this and I believe there will be.
Aslo keep in mind it’s a government record and your not allowed to falsify government records.

I am not necessarily against vaccinations but I am anti mandate. I am also against everything about this bill and your logic. If you don't have a Vax ID then there wouldn't be Vax ID Fraud. Once they get their foot in the door, it will only be the beginning. It is like being a little bit pregnant or I don't care if you are a Jew as long as you sew on the Star of David to your outermost garment so you can go to dinner or to a bills game. Wait for the next couple of steps. No vax no vote. Okay, I am okay with that. You have to show a vax card to vote. See the irony?
We began sliding down the slippery slope when we allowed our elected officials to give away their power to unelected bureaucrats and here in NY Cuomo. It is too late already as we are sliding down the mountain You either enjoy the ride and the mud being packed in your butt or you do something extreme to stop the slide. Ask yourself: What are the purposes of this bill?
Why worry about vax ID fraud if Vax IDs aren't mandatory? Can't you see what they are doing? Do you really think "they" are doing this to keep you safe? If you do then I feel sorry for you.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I have no issue with this law in terms of falsifying records. I also don't think you should need or be forced to share your records either, but if you choose to share them then falsifying them should be against the law

You can't falsify something that is not "legal" or "required". This is called "Backdoor Legislation". It is no different than The Sullivan Law. You remember that don't you? In order to own, purchase, possess, touch, or use a handgun, you must first apply for, be investigated, and be approved for a Licence to Carry. (Even if you don't want to "carry") Never mind, most NY Gun Owners are too freaking stupid to understand that. They think all the states are like that.

 

[BerettaGuy]

If someone were to go this route, it would be best not to use a color printer. Color printers have hidden codes that can ID the specific printer.

Just go to your ex-wife's house can ask to borrow her printer.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

If someone were to go this route, it would be best not to use a color printer. Color printers have hidden codes that can ID the specific printer.

I refuse to show these papers, vaccine-free or otherwise. When I opened the PDF above (blank CDC card) to make sure I was sharing the right file, my Edge browser popped up a message about search results being collected for something. Coinsidence - maybe not. I closed the browser and will un-install when I get home tonight. I should have screenshot it. 00 buck would have been appropriate.

 

[spat]

My almost dead friend’s wife I must admit is too stupid to know better so still refuses to verbalize regret over their decisions.

all of the mea culpas I refer to are people i’ve come across online. And for those who doubt whether these peope even exist? Fair, but then you might as well doubt whether I exist as well. Maybe I am just a bot.

Not doubting it.

Just wondering about the sample size.

The people who you've read a post from online could number into the tens of thousands.

That makes them a far less compelling argument than "I have 5 close friends this happened to".

 

[Defilade]

Just the mere fact that they don't want to acknowledge Natural Immunity is fraud on it's own. That is not following science. They praise the 8 month created "Vaccine" as the only way out of it. Major Red flag! Where is the card for natural immunity which is superior.

 

[DoOver]

 

[SonOfSun]

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What a scumbag piece of shit.

 

[dwa12479]

My almost dead friend’s wife I must admit is too stupid to know better so still refuses to verbalize regret over their decisions.

all of the mea culpas I refer to are people i’ve come across online. And for those who doubt whether these peope even exist? Fair, but then you might as well doubt whether I exist as well. Maybe I am just a bot.

Theres many factors to consider though. I remember the videos of people in China falling over dead in the streets supposedly from COVID. Today we know that was false. We also know that the vast majority of those who died "from" COVID had underlying health issues and co-morbidities. Healthy young people are not in the risk pool, and there have been way too many in the count who died "with" COVID and not "from" COVID

 

[holdover]

Theres many factors to consider though. I remember the videos of people in China falling over dead in the streets supposedly from COVID. Today we know that was false.

I clearly remember that, early on in the ""pandemic"" I was concerned about it like everybody else, because what I saw on those videos were identical to a nerve agent , I knew of no other thing that could do that, I remember seeing doctors with masks approach a victim then hit the floor convulsing. From what I saw, It was a nerve agent . But I knew that once it got over here we would be seeing the same things on video in US hospitals and streets. If I saw it here then it was most likely legit. If I didn't see the same thing here as in China I knew it was a psyop. Somebody had to make those videos, somebody had to have a reason to do it. The reason was to instill fear without a doubt.

So when it didn't happen here I knew it was bogus. Then I saw the ""experts"" predicting 200 million dead by summer. Didnt happen.

 

[prambo]

I clearly remember that, early on in the ""pandemic"" I was concerned about it like everybody else, because what I saw on those videos were identical to a nerve agent , I knew of no other thing that could do that, I remember seeing doctors with masks approach a victim then hit the floor convulsing. From what I saw, It was a nerve agent . But I knew that once it got over here we would be seeing the same things on video in US hospitals and streets. If I saw it here then it was most likely legit. If I didn't see the same thing here as in China I knew it was a psyop. Somebody had to make those videos, somebody had to have a reason to do it. The reason was to instill fear without a doubt.

So when it didn't happen here I knew it was bogus. Then I saw the ""experts"" predicting 200 million dead by summer. Didnt happen.

^^^^^^
This!!

That was the beginning of my doubts - I just went from fear to "Fuck that bullshit!" slower than some.

That being said, here is a link to images of people dead from COVID in China - notice the first couple of rows - same guy, laid out identically, in at least 2 different places. people dead in china covid street at DuckDuckGo

Also, no one just "falls over or collapses" and ends up arranged so neatly, like an undertaker did it - totally fake.

 

[holdover]

Dont forget the tents outside of the hospitals to handle the overflow of patients that were empty and shown on the News everyday for months

 

[DoOver]

Dont forget the tents outside of the hospitals to handle the overflow of patients that were empty and shown on the News everyday for months

...or the Navy hospital ship President Trump sent to NYC or when President Trump COMPLETELY outfitted The Jacob Javits Center, including rebuilding the HVAC system, into a hospital, at Fredo's Bro's request.


Good times.

 

[DoOver]

 

[Defilade]

Don't forget all the vents that were not used either and sent elsewhere. This was a major psych op by the fake news for sure. Even the so called refrigerator trucks with all the bodies at the hospitals.. Yeah, ok!

 

[prambo]

Also posted elsewhere -

Reindeer Games | Kunstler

"...the SARs Covid-19 episode has been an engineered mind-fuck from start to finish. Western Civ has been taken for a ride, fleeced, shot in the head, and left in the trunk of a car abandoned on a lonely stretch of highway."

 

[ManualF150]

^^ That's exactly how I (and a lot of others) feel.

Maybe not exactly exactly, but to better explain: I feel like I'm the dog still alive being dragged behind Clark's car in National Lamphoon...