New Rules for NY Gun Dealers will force many Dealers to close up

[FP1201]

There's been a lot of talk and speculation with all the new Laws the Legislature forced through, but little spoken of the impact to Dealers.
Stipulations such as requiring Video surveillance of all doors in or out, counter, etc. and the retention of those videos for two years, Third Party Alarm Company monitoring, and alarm systems, that ALL firearms have to be secured in Safes when the store isn't open, all ammunition must be secured away from the Public and away from Guns, That copies of all the Dealers Records have to be sent to Albany ever April and October, Employees are required to have yearly training, and be at least 21, oh there's a shit-ton of fuck You's in this this, and I believe many dealers will say just that: fuck you New York!
We're seriously considering having a Fire Sale and closing up.... juice ain't worth the squeeze.

 

[C3D]

Agreed that it is a major drag on the business for this BS stuff. Add to that a Biden ATF looking to pull your license over any minor paperwork screwup, and I have to think it’s time to quit.

 

[fresch]

Cunta kinta over on south ave. is open 24/7 no paper work or background checks!

 

[FP1201]

Agreed that it is a major drag on the business for this BS stuff. Add to that a Biden ATF looking to pull your license over any minor paperwork screwup, and I have to think it’s time to quit.

Wonder what Dealers are to do at gun show... pretty hard to comply there.

 

[FP1201]

Cunta kinta over on south ave. is open 24/7 no paper work or background checks!

Target practice in The Bricks? Baby didn't do 'nufin, nobody saw 'nufin either.

 

[fresch]

House guns
Guns left at abandoned houses for the neighborhood to use.

 

[FP1201]

House guns
Guns left at abandoned houses for the neighborhood to use.

If they haven't it in their possession or control on arrest (including throwing it away while absconding) then charges won't stick, even if they do, the DA will cut a deal to let 'em go... Thought used to be to let all the Drug Dealers kill each other off and let their patrons self immolate, but that was lessening the number of Democrat voters.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Sadly dealers understandably throwing in the towel are exactly what "they" want. You can have the car but no steering wheel.

 

[GTN]

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[FP1201]

Get everything you need and ever wanted right now

only a couple more items, only thing stopping me is availability.

 

[Truebeliever]

Just a few questions? What are the requirements of third party alarm monitoring? Would a ring or SimpliSafe alarm system meet that standard?

Is the video monitoring required allow motion activated cameras or must it be one for one recordings?
Does the two years of recordings have to on site or can that third party record for you?

 

[Deplorable Me]

What law was this covered under? NY has so many friggin laws.

 

[fresch]

What law was this covered under? NY has so many friggin laws.

Ignorance of the law is not the responsibility of the politicians making it or the oath mumblers in forcing it; you should just know them.

 

[FP1201]

the wordJust a few questions? What are the requirements of third party alarm monitoring? Would a ring or SimpliSafe alarm system meet that standard?

Is the video monitoring required allow motion activated cameras or must it be one for one recordings?
Does the two years of recordings have to on site or can that third party record for you?

The way WE read it: You have to have a Professional system and it monitored by a Professional Service, and the words "Bonded" popped into my head, but I won't swear to it.
Again it's somewhat ambiguous; It does say things like front Door, Back doors, etc. and sounds like one needs the cameras recording all the time during business hours and ostensibly motion/sound activated after hours.

I tried to find links to the new Law, but on this laptop it's very difficult for me to search, link, copy & paste.

BTW: there's another aspect to this which may well be self incriminating or used against you; Industry Liability: If you read through the Law ANYONE can be sued for the actions of another if they were complacent or didn't do a through job of screening out a buyer and it matters not who was at fault or even if there's a connection, the person that uses a gun illegally just goes to jail or Hell, everyone else has to pay.

 

[Truebeliever]

The way WE read it: You have to have a Professional system and it monitored by a Professional Service, and the words "Bonded" popped into my head, but I won't swear to it.
Again it's somewhat ambiguous; It does say things like front Door, Back doors, etc. and sounds like one needs the cameras recording all the time during business hours and ostensibly motion/sound activated after hours.

I tried to find links to the new Law, but on this laptop it's very difficult for me to search, link, copy & paste.

BTW: there's another aspect to this which may well be self incriminating or used against you; Industry Liability: If you read through the Law ANYONE can be sued for the actions of another if they were complacent or didn't do a through job of screening out a buyer and it matters not who was at fault or even if there's a connection, the person that uses a gun illegally just goes to jail or Hell, everyone else has to pay.

Third party monitoring doesn’t seem that expensive if they will keep the recordings. ADT , Ring , etc have “ professional monitoring “. It’s the amount of recording time ( two years) that makes those services unavailable under a normal contract.
The liability is a huge issue.

 

[Grimscale]

Ever notice how third party monitoring and 2 year retention is never required for political positions?

 

[FP1201]

Third party monitoring doesn’t seem that expensive if they will keep the recordings. ADT , Ring , etc have “ professional monitoring “. It’s the amount of recording time ( two years) that makes those services unavailable under a normal contract.
The liability is a huge issue.

I've no clue to the cost of Third Party Monitoring, and for people with Shops operated out of Buildings on the residences it might be overkill. I think most of the Legislation and Rules are made with Larger Stores and denser populations in mind...There are quite a few Shops that operate from out buildings on residential property.