Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Oh for fuck's sake...
The drama, the lies, and the doom porn coming out of the Democrats is ridiculous.
NYSRPA v. Bruen, NY 2A Case Supreme Court case and decision
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The drama, the lies, and the doom porn coming out of the Democrats is ridiculous.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Mayor Eric Adams emphasized at a news conference with NYPD Commissioner Keechant Sewell that “nothing changes today” as a result of the ruling, noting that the decision was remanded to the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals to reconsider its earlier decision upholding the state law.
“If you have a premise permit, it does not automatically convert to a carry permit,” Sewell warned. “If you carry a gun illegally in New York City, you will be arrested. Nothing changes today, and that’s important for everyone to be aware of.”
In a separate statement, Adams said the ruling “will put New Yorkers at further risk of gun violence.”
“We have been preparing for this decision and will continue to do everything possible to work with our federal, state, and local partners to protect our city,” Adams went on. “Those efforts will include a comprehensive review of our approach to defining ‘sensitive locations’ where carrying a gun is banned, and reviewing our application process to ensure that only those who are fully qualified can obtain a carry license … we cannot allow New York to become the Wild West.”
Supreme Court overturns New York law on carrying concealed weapons
The Supreme Court has struck down New York’s century-old law restricting the carrying of concealed firearms, its first major Second Amendment decision in more than a decade and a ruling that…
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Shout out to this old battle axe for completely dropping the ball on behalf of NY state. I still can’t believe this is the best they had. Oh well!
4WHLDRFTN
6.5 Creedmoor
Doubt it
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Just like Florida became the gunshine state when they were the first state to issue CCP's.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
All of this BS coming from FUKH about public safety blah blah blah.
But yet at the same time, she supports the bail reform law.
She doesn't care about public safety.
She cares about power and votes.
She's an asshole.
But yet at the same time, she supports the bail reform law.
She doesn't care about public safety.
She cares about power and votes.
She's an asshole.
NY Chamorro
.357 mag
You can’t get arrested for carrying outside your restrictions.
I would assume the more immediate ramification is the likelihood of losing your permit altogether.
4WHLDRFTN
6.5 Creedmoor
Theyll make something up
skywarner
9mm
New York is going all-in on defying the Supreme Court ruling, yet it has zero problem accepting federal money for the continuation of its socialist programs.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
And killing babies.
Egret-II
.40 S&W
Soooo... can I go tomorrow to the county clerk and ask to change my permit to a full carry?? That's the only thing I'm asking for. And later maybe be able to carry in NYC. But one thing at a time
4WHLDRFTN
6.5 Creedmoor
Relax…dont poke the bear
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
And putting out the red carpet for the illegal invaders.
Some of whom no doubt are violent criminals.
easyspeak
9mm
SCOTUS struct down NY's "special need" 2nd step for obtaining a license, therefore, there "should" be no additional steps, applications, letters to Judges, etc., that a license holder today, with restrictions on their license, should have to take. It "should" be a matter of just crossing them (restrictions) out (magic marker?) since all NY pistol licenses have always been a license to carry firearms, period. At least that's they way it should be.
Cavalry
.308 Win
yes and no. I believe Florida was something like 1987 for CCP. That was before my time as a NY permit holder, but my father has had a unrestricted NY permit since the 70's. It all depended on where you lived and the attitude of the issuing judge. At certain times, although uncommon and overly difficult to obtain, NY actually had better CCW rights than most of the country.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
This SCOTUS decision cracked the Democrats.
Just wait until the SCOTUS drops the Roe vs Wade decision on them. (tomorrow maybe?)
It just might break them. Liberal tears will be flowing like an angry river.
Beware.
Just wait until the SCOTUS drops the Roe vs Wade decision on them. (tomorrow maybe?)
It just might break them. Liberal tears will be flowing like an angry river.
Beware.
easyspeak
9mm
Egret-II said "
"Soooo... can I go tomorrow to the county clerk and ask to change my permit to a full carry?? That's the only thing I'm asking for. And later maybe be able to carry in NYC. But one thing at a time:"
I say you already have a "license to carry." There is no "change to a full carry" at the pistol office. All they will do is write something in like "restrictions removed" or something. Since there are (supposedly according to SCOTUS} no more restrictions, all of our licenses are actually full carry licenses. Right?
"Soooo... can I go tomorrow to the county clerk and ask to change my permit to a full carry?? That's the only thing I'm asking for. And later maybe be able to carry in NYC. But one thing at a time:"
I say you already have a "license to carry." There is no "change to a full carry" at the pistol office. All they will do is write something in like "restrictions removed" or something. Since there are (supposedly according to SCOTUS} no more restrictions, all of our licenses are actually full carry licenses. Right?
And this is when US Marshall's should step in and make arrests!
skywarner
9mm
This nation has endured the Socialist Democrats and their RINOs cousins for longer than our founders would have ever thought possible before the populace would have reversed the tyranny.
There’s a real underlying reason why the Dems want to divide the races, extinguish babies, and disarm the citizenry.
Cavalry
.308 Win
I believe so, but what do I know. I live in a red county. 1/3 of the population has their permit and a large percentage of them have no restrictions. I honestly do not know any of my friends or family that are restricted, Its like junior free America.
You could have gone to your issuing authority yesterday or for that matter, a month ago to ask them to remove administrative restrictions. Did you ever bother to try ?
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Yeah one time licensing fee of 5K and 1K every 5 year's
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
LOL the jokes on them, I know a bunch of people that have been carrying in the shithole for years, thats why they call it concealed
What I agree with is irrelevant.
It's not now, nor has it ever been illegal to CCW with a "restricted" CCW.
When I had a restricted CCW, I carried all the time.
Every single individual with ANY so called arbitrary restrictions that have been added to their permit or license to carry should write a letter immediately and unceremoniously demand restrictions be removed as per the SCOTUS ruling!
And I will lmao at the responses... Which will all undoubtedly be in violation of this ruling as there will be no way it can be denied.
But they will obfuscate, and delay, and drag it out until they pass laws defacto restricting possession and carry... Wait for it! How about training and safes and trigger guards and releases signed by neighbors! A careful tip toe around establishing "NEED" but instituting hurdles nonetheless, however they can find them. And they will do it and force YOU to challenge it in court! Clearly, a problem.
Again, it's funny though to read again how people just don't bother to read and understand law, let alone the laws that govern their possession or lawful use of a firearm in NY State! There are no LAWFUL restrictions, these are arbitrary attachments applied by an administrator of the licensing process... Garbage! You have a permit, you're good to conceal carry! You're not ILLEGALLY doing anything, just doing it outside these arbitrary and capricious restrictions. The absolute WORST thing that happens is a Judge would revoke your permit, but oh boy, now with this ruling, it better be done correctly as they cannot remove it based upon bullshit "NEED" basis.
But whatever... I'm not now, nor have I ever worried about that bullshit. There's very little circumstances where this has ever happened, as the AG will NEVER want this to get to trial. Almost every case is the possession as a side bar to other more serious offenses which make it easy to remove the licensing due to felony offenses! Never just for the simple fact of carrying!!! But they win because all the law abiding citizens want to be just that and they don't want problems, this is another advantage the criminal element enjoys knowing full well the average Joe is unarmed and unprotected! So, here in NY, this defeatest mentality is as much a problem as these Judges who Legislate from the bench!
Nobody should be giving up anything, and everyone should be flooding their county with carry upgrade requests or new applications! In addition, as an entertainment expense, every single carry person should apply for NYC and screw them at their own game!
Remember, they got off promising not to continue their malfeasance when the SCOTUS last time didn't rule against NY Shitty, I don't think they'll be so nice next time if NY Shitty exhibited any restrictive practices post this ruling!
But again, the lack of teeth is troublesome! The one error the founders left in there... A lack of enforcement capability for SCOTUS!
Anyways...
And I will lmao at the responses... Which will all undoubtedly be in violation of this ruling as there will be no way it can be denied.
But they will obfuscate, and delay, and drag it out until they pass laws defacto restricting possession and carry... Wait for it! How about training and safes and trigger guards and releases signed by neighbors! A careful tip toe around establishing "NEED" but instituting hurdles nonetheless, however they can find them. And they will do it and force YOU to challenge it in court! Clearly, a problem.
Again, it's funny though to read again how people just don't bother to read and understand law, let alone the laws that govern their possession or lawful use of a firearm in NY State! There are no LAWFUL restrictions, these are arbitrary attachments applied by an administrator of the licensing process... Garbage! You have a permit, you're good to conceal carry! You're not ILLEGALLY doing anything, just doing it outside these arbitrary and capricious restrictions. The absolute WORST thing that happens is a Judge would revoke your permit, but oh boy, now with this ruling, it better be done correctly as they cannot remove it based upon bullshit "NEED" basis.
But whatever... I'm not now, nor have I ever worried about that bullshit. There's very little circumstances where this has ever happened, as the AG will NEVER want this to get to trial. Almost every case is the possession as a side bar to other more serious offenses which make it easy to remove the licensing due to felony offenses! Never just for the simple fact of carrying!!! But they win because all the law abiding citizens want to be just that and they don't want problems, this is another advantage the criminal element enjoys knowing full well the average Joe is unarmed and unprotected! So, here in NY, this defeatest mentality is as much a problem as these Judges who Legislate from the bench!
Nobody should be giving up anything, and everyone should be flooding their county with carry upgrade requests or new applications! In addition, as an entertainment expense, every single carry person should apply for NYC and screw them at their own game!
Remember, they got off promising not to continue their malfeasance when the SCOTUS last time didn't rule against NY Shitty, I don't think they'll be so nice next time if NY Shitty exhibited any restrictive practices post this ruling!
But again, the lack of teeth is troublesome! The one error the founders left in there... A lack of enforcement capability for SCOTUS!
Anyways...
This. I don't get this. The top court in the land said NY can't do what it's been doing. Who gives 2 fucks if the lower court says the sky is green now?