State trooper charged with animal cruelty after hitting horse

[byron]

State trooper charged with animal cruelty after hitting horse

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[Tisto]

What the hell is wrong with people ? Hit it with your car, then shoot it ?!

Next time those two fucknuts are standing in the road, I hope they get hit with a car and then shot.

I certainly hope the owner of the horse not only sues for damages ( horses are really expensive ), but for emotional distress as well. Further, I hope both of the idiots are fired.

 

[Saltwater60]

Why? I getnudging it gently to get it out of the road, but seriously this is sick. People are twisted.

 

[Tisto]

I guarantee that during the trial, my lawyer would have that horse being a Kentucky Derby contender, as well as having a deep emotional connection to the entire family.

Where do they find not just one moron, who thinks it's a good idea to hit the animal with a car REPEATEDLY, but then a second one, who thinks that KILLING the animal is the solution ??? Seriously ??!! What town is this ? Would they run over a dog in the road too ? These two should NEVER have been given a badge, much less a gun of any kind. Their authority should be limited to deciding whether to use paper or plastic bags.

 

[Tisto]

Why? I getnudging it gently to get it out of the road, but seriously this is sick. People are twisted.

Nudging it isn't even appropriate. Get out of the damn cruiser and lead it. If it won't move, park your cruiser with the lights on, and go to the nearest house. "I think your horse is in the road, and I need help to remove it." It's not the first time an animal got loose. No farmer wants to have any of their killed because it got loose.

 

[livingston]

That officer would be the one to stand outside a school while children are being shot

 

[Grimscale]

That officer would be the one to stand outside a school while children are being shot

I don't think he'd be standing. He'd probably be hitting them with a car before the perp shoots them.

 

[C3D]

He was probably inspired by NY’s Finest:

Crooks in car mow down beloved Bronx deli clerk, then rob him

The 39-year-old victim was on his way to work at 35 Bus Stop Deli in East Morrisania, where he was known by co-workers as “David,” when he was struck and robbed.

www.nydailynews.com

 

[Zerex]

As a former horse owner, I can tell you that a carrot or apple in hand, would have gotten that horse to move.

I am sure that will be brought up at trial.

Idiots with guns............

 

[JamieZ]

C'mon guys, they thought it was a dog, not a horse. Give them a break.

 

[OwnTheRide]

My first instinct is to grab a pitchfork and torch.

BUT, as we have learned many times, sometimes additional context can completely change a story. Say, for example, the horse was wildly bucking and approaching a group of 30 children or something, and hitting it with a vehicle was the only way to stop it in time. Then, it was suffering, so they put it down.

Obviously, I'm spitballing some wild ideas here. I have to, the story certainly doesn't provide any context. So, let's leave it at I have my pitchfork and torch out of the safe and ready for action, but the torch ain't lit just yet.

 

[spat]

I guarantee that during the trial, my lawyer would have that horse being a Kentucky Derby contender, as well as having a deep emotional connection to the entire family.

Where do they find not just one moron, who thinks it's a good idea to hit the animal with a car REPEATEDLY, but then a second one, who thinks that KILLING the animal is the solution ??? Seriously ??!! What town is this ? Would they run over a dog in the road too ? These two should NEVER have been given a badge, much less a gun of any kind. Their authority should be limited to deciding whether to use paper or plastic bags.

I give you good odds he yelled "stop resisting" every time he hit the horse.

Then his report used the phrase "fear for my life".

 

[spat]

I don't think he'd be standing. He'd probably be hitting them with a car before the perp shoots them.

He'd be one of the Denver cops who fired *into* the crowd because he thought he saw a gun.

Denver police opened fire into a crowd, injuring 6 bystanders, while going after a suspect who never fired a gun

The department police officers opened fire three times in the span of a week — fatally shooting individuals the Wednesday and Friday before the Sunday shooting.

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[Mosinitis]

My first instinct is to grab a pitchfork and torch.

BUT, as we have learned many times, sometimes additional context can completely change a story. Say, for example, the horse was wildly bucking and approaching a group of 30 children or something, and hitting it with a vehicle was the only way to stop it in time. Then, it was suffering, so they put it down.

Obviously, I'm spitballing some wild ideas here. I have to, the story certainly doesn't provide any context. So, let's leave it at I have my pitchfork and torch out of the safe and ready for action, but the torch ain't lit just yet.

If that was the case he wouldn't be charged. Second trooper who shot the horse wasn't charged, I guess at that point it was an act of mercy to end the suffering.

 

[Bigfoot]

Over the years some horses have gotten loose around here a few times.
(2 different farms near my house)

Anyways, all ended peaceably. The horses ended back where they belong unharmed.

The Genesee County Sheriff's Dept. was involved a couple of times.
Everything ended well each time.

Obviously, it can be done.

 

[kev74]

State police say Corporal Michael Perillo responded to a call to help a loose horse that was in the road.

 

[spat]

Over the years some horses have gotten loose around here a few times.
(2 different farms near my house)

Anyways, all ended peaceably. The horses ended back where they belong unharmed.

The Genesee County Sheriff's Dept. was involved a couple of times.
Everything ended well each time.

Obviously, it can be done.

I grew up in horse country.

Half the time horses get out it's because they're being temporarily stabled somewhere else, and they just want to go home LOL.

Had it happen with my grandfather's horse once. Rode it over to a friend's house for dinner. He met my grandmother (who drove) there. It got dark and they decided to leave the horse in the friends barn for the night and pick her up in the morning.

The horse had other plans. The friend called in the morning all worried because the horse was gone.

They found her in my grandfather's pasture.
The horse had jumped out of the friends pasture, came home, and jumped into my grandfather's.

For steeplechasers, fences are more a suggestion.

 

[Acer-m14]

just a simple open hand out .. and a soft voice .. will make a horse come to you ..

even better if you know its name .. a landscaper here had 2 horses .. they just passed a few months ago

but i got to meet them .. they never met me before .. hand out over the fence and called there names and they came
a trotting right up to me to check me out ..

 

[OwnTheRide]

If that was the case he wouldn't be charged.

You could be arrested for being black on a Friday night. Even if you're not black, and it's Saturday. Don't conflate charges with guilt. There's a reason we go by "innocent until proven guilty."

Hell, I was once arrested for a crime I didn't commit. By the time it made it to court, everyone knew it. The DA offered an ACD - adjournment in contemplation of dismissal - and I turned it down. Told them to dismiss the case outright or proceed with the trial that they knew was bullshit. Aaaaand they dismissed the case.

I'll give you that from the very limited amount of information we have, things don't look good. But I'm not willing to throw anyone - cop or not - under the bus until I see some evidence.

 

[Mosinitis]

You could be arrested for being black on a Friday night. Even if you're not black, and it's Saturday. Don't conflate charges with guilt. There's a reason we go by "innocent until proven guilty."

Hell, I was once arrested for a crime I didn't commit. By the time it made it to court, everyone knew it. The DA offered an ACD - adjournment in contemplation of dismissal - and I turned it down. Told them to dismiss the case outright or proceed with the trial that they knew was bullshit. Aaaaand they dismissed the case.

I'll give you that from the very limited amount of information we have, things don't look good. But I'm not willing to throw anyone - cop or not - under the bus until I see some evidence.

If you don't see the difference in benefit of the doubt given to state troopers as opposed to ordinary citizens, you are not living in a real world.

 

[Depick]

You can tell a lot about a person based on their interactions with animals. These two are complete and total cold hearted morons. I can only imagine how a human must’ve been treated by this pair.

 

[OwnTheRide]

It you don't see the difference in benefit of the doubt given to state troopers as opposed to ordinary citizens, you are not living in a real world.

Sure there is. Despite that, there are probably hundreds or even thousands of cases where cops were charged despite that benefit of the doubt, and later found not guilty. Is your position really that all such examples were actually guilty because they were charged?

We saw a similar thing on the other forum back in the day. Everyone was ready to put the cop in a cell and throw away the key. Then additional info came out and a whole lot of people had to backpedal the shit they said.

Let's be clear: one of us is saying "he was charged, therefore he is guilty." The other is saying "I'll wait for some facts before passing judgment." Do you really feel the former position is the most reasonable?

 

[Mosinitis]

Sure there is. Despite that, there are probably hundreds or even thousands of cases where cops were charged despite that benefit of the doubt, and later found not guilty. Is your position really that all such examples were actually guilty because they were charged?

We saw a similar thing on the other forum back in the day. Everyone was ready to put the cop in a cell and throw away the key. Then additional info came out and a whole lot of people had to backpedal the shit they said.

Let's be clear: one of us is saying "he was charged, therefore he is guilty." The other is saying "I'll wait for some facts before passing judgment." Do you really feel the former position is the most reasonable?

Yes, in the real world when it gets to that point, they are guilty as hell.
Also, legal acquittal doesn't mean actual innocence. Stop dancing around different standards for LEO's

 

[Bigfoot]

Hell, I was once arrested for a crime I didn't commit. By the time it made it to court, everyone knew it. The DA offered an ACD - adjournment in contemplation of dismissal - and I turned it down. Told them to dismiss the case outright or proceed with the trial that they knew was bullshit. Aaaaand they dismissed the case.

The same exact thing happened to me.

From start to finish.

 

[spat]

It you don't see the difference in benefit of the doubt given to state troopers as opposed to ordinary citizens, you are not living in a real world.

Cops point guns at people all the time without enough justification to shoot.

Everyone else goes to jail if they do that.

 

[OwnTheRide]

Yes, in the real world when it gets to that point, they are guilty as hell.
Also, legal acquittal doesn't mean actual innocence. Stop dancing around different standards for LEO's

Actually, if you look, I'm advocating for equal standards for LEOs. Specifically, "innocent until proven guilty."

You just keep on convicting people in your mind based on their charges. Clearly, I'm not going to open your eyes to how foolish your position is.

 

[Mosinitis]

Actually, if you look, I'm advocating for equal standards for LEOs. Specifically, "innocent until proven guilty."

You just keep on convicting people in your mind based on their charges. Clearly, I'm not going to open your eyes to how foolish your position is.

If my position was foolish, you would address my point instead of weaving around it.

 

[OwnTheRide]

If my position was foolish, you would address my point instead of weaving around it.

I think I've been clearly addressing your point, but maybe I have you wrong. I believe your point is that since police tend to give each other more benefit of the doubt than they do normal citizens, the fact that he has been charged makes it more likely that he is guilty of a crime. Is that correct? If not, please state your point as clearly and concisely as possible.

If so, I don't disagree - it is probably more likely that he is guilty. But "probably more likely" doesn't translate to "I don't need to see any evidence or additional context"... for me, at least. I've learned that there's often much more to the story than is presented in the media.

 

[Mosinitis]

I think I've been clearly addressing your point, but maybe I have you wrong. I believe your point is that since police tend to give each other more benefit of the doubt than they do normal citizens, the fact that he has been charged makes it more likely that he is guilty of a crime. Is that correct? If not, please state your point as clearly and concisely as possible.

If so, I don't disagree - it is probably more likely that he is guilty. But "probably more likely" doesn't translate to "I don't need to see any evidence or additional context"... for me, at least. I've learned that there's often much more to the story than is presented in the media.

The whole system of justice has pro law enforcement bias, not just cops giving each other a break. Excluding politically charged cases, it is highly unlikely a cop on the job would be charged with a crime without compeling evidence. Pointing it out doesn't deny him his due process, he still gets his day in court.

If presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law was the only standard, no one could be arrested, no one could be charged with a crime and no one could be indicted. People still have arrests on their record, even if they weren't convicted of any crime.

 

[meketrefe]

I am not sure we are getting the full story here. Horses are very nice animals but they can also have mental issues or go rowe and kill someone.
City folks and snowflakes do not know this.