When a Covid patient is admitted they are put on a "Covid Protocol" in which the healthcare workers HAVE to follow. It involves drugs that lead the patient to get sick and to be put on a vent as the doctor stated in the video. BTW. When working in the Hospital did you ever challenge why you were wearing masks for an airborne virus? I mean seriously, Your eyes are exposed. How in the world is that healthcare? This is the result of either dumber than a box of rocks or just doing what you are told just like the Covid protocols that murdered people. Cowards! Bonuses?? LMAO! they should donate that money to their Co-workers who were fired on the job for being smart enough to stand up and not take the jab. How many patients were put in harms way because of that slick move?
Hochul: NY to give health care workers bonuses up to $3K as 'a sign of our gratitude'
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Phazer
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I believe that this is a truism.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
She's an asshole.
FUKH
But that doesn't change the fact that she's an asshole.
FUKH
FUKH
Maybe it's not much of a contribution to this thread.
But that doesn't change the fact that she's an asshole.
FUKH
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Bigfoot
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She's uglier than FUAC... 
Phazer
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I can only directly speak about patient care that I directly observed. I hope that you will adhere to the same standard and comment on specific cases which you have directly observed.
I worked every day in a large hospital since the onset of the pandemic (except for two weeks when I was out with COVID-19 in early 2020). I did not get a chance to rotate through an ICU service, though. I watched ICU professionals struggle to care for patients that had a heretofore unknown disease. I saw care protocols evolve based on reports, studies, and experience from all over the world. I saw every available space in our institution converted to accommodate patient care.
You appear to dislike medical professionals. That is your prerogative.
I would only ask that you not paint with the broadest possible brush and impugn the motives of people who put their lives on the line to help others. This includes all members of the medical teams from housekeepers, to transporters, to pharmacists, to nurses, to physicians.
By the way, I will not be receiving any kind of bonus from the state. For many of us, our "bonus" was that we were not fired when hospital revenue decreased during the early pandemic as a result of a loss of diagnostic procedures, elective procedures, and office visits (which, by the way, adversely affected many patients).
My sister in law is a director in a Hospital in WV. I know what is going on. Many whistle blowers have spoke up exactly what has been happening. Truth is like I said. The Government has bribed (Cares Act) the Hospitals with big money to follow the protocols or else. Bottom line is if you are not going to stand up for your fellow team mates and call out this fraud whether the bribery or watching your people get fired you certainly don't deserve any bonus or a job in my opinion. Does it make one bit of sense to fire Healthcare workers during a pandemic??? What kind of place does that? Does that not put other patients in jeopardy?
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To hell with her and all that are getting this bonus.
A bonus for doing a job, a job that was chosen.
No different than any other pression that was continued throughout the BS Hoax!
A bonus for doing a job, a job that was chosen.
No different than any other pression that was continued throughout the BS Hoax!
Phazer
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Agreed.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
And this has what to do with the rank and file healthcare workers that neither set policy or run the healthcare organizations?
Rank and file healthcare workers, at all levels, are not privy to fiscal decisions and determinations between the federal government and hospital administrators. I have never once spoken to a hospital administrator in my last decade at my current hospital.
You must be quite financially stable in your life. Good for you. Not everybody with a family, a home, and other expenses can afford to tell their employer to take this job and shove it. As the pandemic evolved, policies evolved. Scientific data was initially very favorable regarding vaccines. As you've identified, such data was preliminary and did not necessarily hold up under long term follow-up and scrutiny.
The larger the hospital organization, the less that they care about any individual employee. Ergo, refusal to comply with institutional mandates resulted in termination...no matter how unjust that was.
It was a moronic maneuver by politically-connected healthcare administrators. Just like high level generals in the military who are more politician than warfighter, many hospital administrators are more political bean counters than healthcare professionals.
Personally, I have come to question just about all scientific research with regards to SARS-CoV-2. Reading the literature over the past two years has been very disappointing. Almost all of the publications include political opinion where none should be inserted. Any study that showed favorable results from "alternative" treatments was somehow found to have "faulty methodology" and was withdrawn. I believe that legitimate, non-establishment, researchers were threatened to suppress their results upon penalty of losing grants and positions. I, of course, cannot prove that. But, where there's smoke, there's fire.
This was not a jab at HC workers. I just think this is bullshit. To use more tax payer dollars to give free money to one section of society for doing a job.
During the scandemic, through current times, I have been forced and mandated to ungodly hours of work. Mandated overtime and long hours due to all of this bullshit. For some, this BS continues. I worked, not by choice, 16 hours yesterday; I will work 16 hours today as well. (Not by choice).
I am not getting bonuses, nor do I expect one or deserve one. I have to choice to walk away at anytime. I bitch and I complain each and every day about what me and my coworkers are going through. My choice to continue.
No tax payer should be funding bonuses for other tax payer s for doing a job they choose to do.
During the scandemic, through current times, I have been forced and mandated to ungodly hours of work. Mandated overtime and long hours due to all of this bullshit. For some, this BS continues. I worked, not by choice, 16 hours yesterday; I will work 16 hours today as well. (Not by choice).
I am not getting bonuses, nor do I expect one or deserve one. I have to choice to walk away at anytime. I bitch and I complain each and every day about what me and my coworkers are going through. My choice to continue.
No tax payer should be funding bonuses for other tax payer s for doing a job they choose to do.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Yes, a tough job that doesn’t always pay well. And there are more of them than certified nurses
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
So the cops and EMS who had to go to the homes of these infected individuals without the proper PPE that these hospital workers had, shouldn’t get this bonus too? Because they aren’t getting it. Very few cops did not get covid at some point of this pandemic. It was the number one killer of cops in 2020.
Where is the Data on that?
Phazer
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Not at all.
Governor should not be giving "bonuses" to anyone who was doing their job as expected.
This is a pure political move.
spat
.950 JDJ
Lots of people are willfully ignorant of the malfeasance of their superiors.
"Following protocol" and "Following orders" are basically the same thing.
Now, not all of the people involved should have known better, but certainly some of them should have.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
In 2020, 62% of police deaths were caused by COVID: One officer's story
In 2020, 62% of police line-of-duty deaths were caused by COVID. Here is one officer's story.
abcnews.go.com
Most active cops are not in the high risk category for the disease even if a lot can get fat. A lot of them in their early 30s got it and got over it.
Wonder how they determined it was "Covid"?The above and almost every active cop I have spoken to has had it at some point before the vaccine was available. And many after getting the vaccine.In 2020, 62% of police deaths were caused by COVID: One officer's story
In 2020, 62% of police line-of-duty deaths were caused by COVID. Here is one officer's story.
Most active cops are not in the high risk category for the disease even if a lot can get fat. A lot of them in their early 30s got it and got over it.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Blood tests. They died of the illness and not of another cause while infected with covid if that’s what you are asking. Cops I have met at functions had died from it. It was usually in the beginning of the pandemic before doctors learned what not to do or what worked .
I agree, my post was not a shot at any working within the HC system! I have been in the deep end of the pool in that regard since late 17' and through the Crud Virus even through now... And I have nothing but respect for the entire community who serve the public in their weakest moments!
My diatribe was entirely directed at the political elite that think throwing money around fixes shit! It doesn't... And as we have seen in a most grotesque manner over the last 2 years, it doesn't work at all when applied in a broad purposeless basis... So at it's root, when examined, can only be aligned to the simplest and dirtiest of old tricks by handing out treats! Then hey, don't forget me when you vote! NY had Tammany Hall and things have never changed... NY politics is as corrupt and dirty as a $3 whore! And the Governor is the Madam of it all right now. Worse in some ways that her predecessor, if that could be imagined!
But all the SPECIAL class bullshit has to stop! Just stop...
Ultimately, I'm disinvesting myself from NY as I'm preparing to get the fuck outta here! So there's really Zero Fucks Given any more... But it's still annoying!
Zulu Foxtrot!!!
My diatribe was entirely directed at the political elite that think throwing money around fixes shit! It doesn't... And as we have seen in a most grotesque manner over the last 2 years, it doesn't work at all when applied in a broad purposeless basis... So at it's root, when examined, can only be aligned to the simplest and dirtiest of old tricks by handing out treats! Then hey, don't forget me when you vote! NY had Tammany Hall and things have never changed... NY politics is as corrupt and dirty as a $3 whore! And the Governor is the Madam of it all right now. Worse in some ways that her predecessor, if that could be imagined!
But all the SPECIAL class bullshit has to stop! Just stop...
Ultimately, I'm disinvesting myself from NY as I'm preparing to get the fuck outta here! So there's really Zero Fucks Given any more... But it's still annoying!
Zulu Foxtrot!!!
When I became a cop, quite a few years ago, as well as volunteering to be a Soldier, I always knew what I was in for.
It was not about getting bonuses. No cop, nurse or other profession deserves or is entitled to a cash bonus based upon the talking of other tax payers. Period. Don't like the line of work or the dangers? Quit.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
My wife worked in retail grocery through it all. Where's her "bonus".
Because of the industry I am in, my job was considered "essential". Should I get one? I rarely left my office in the basement (I know what FJB went through).
All BS. FUKH.
Because of the industry I am in, my job was considered "essential". Should I get one? I rarely left my office in the basement (I know what FJB went through).
All BS. FUKH.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
The point is they would never give it to a cop or a fireman. Or the doctors or all the others who risked their lives , yet these people get the bonus . Just pointing out hypocrisy of her political bribe .
Cops, fire fighters, corrections and EMS have been exposed to the worst diseases without bonuses all the time . Diseases like drug resistant TB, HIV ( needle sticks) and carcinogens.
And when you say “ quit”, people forget that it’s just not the cop who gets exposed, but their families too. All too often the exposure isn’t known until the cop or corrections officer has already gone home . Cops and corrections don’t get the same chance to put on PPE like the hospital workers do.
Yet these risks weren’t “ recognized “ by these woke people
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repete
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This is bullshit, pure political bullshit, paid for by you and me to buy a few votes. Many MANY people worked thru that shit and like me never missed a day! I'm not asking for a bonus, I got paid to do a job that I accepted.
Exactly! I worked thru all of this plus numerous hours of O.T. and it's amazing how everyone who got sick with "Covid" came back to work. Meanwhile all the office workers had to stay home in their safe spaces to make things look like there is this massive death spiral going on. What a joke!
I get this. No one working for the .gov should be getting bonuses for doing their jobs.
As for bringing shit home, I brought Covid home to my family from work, so, I get it.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
No one is saying give them bonuses but some credit . The left is “ careful “ in their wording and deeds not to give credit where credit is due.
Phazer
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Don't worry, there are a lot fewer people entering the medical professions these days.
You won't have as many of these "heroes" ruining your life in the future.
Personally, I'm sure my long-time patients that I've been seeing for over two decades do not consider me a fraud.
It sucks that so many were put into a situation of living and progressing such a lie.
I have a few friends that have left the job of nursing due to the lies and misdirections they knew were being pushed. Some of the Nurses that I know have been doing the same job for decades and they walked away due to the lies. Some knew the lies were being told, hell, some actually pushed mistruths onto the patients that they were tending to.
The main hospital in Erie County is short hundreds in their medical personal needs.
As for you not being a fraud, I believe that, many are not. My Doctor and my sons doctor; both told us the truths about this garbage. Too many though passed on statements and "facts" that they knew were false.