The regular calls to terrorism against fellow Americans on this site reflect poorly.

[Blimey]

Too many here are playing a dangerous game, and a profoundly un-American one. I do not believe the vision for this was to become what it has become, but it must be called out plainly: calls to political violence have become commonplace here.

Here is a random sampling.

"Kill all democrats" Said it before, SCOTUS has no teeth! CDC extends tenant protections...

Doctors who vaccinate kids without parents permission should be hanged https://nygunforum.com/threads/doct...-without-parental-knowledge.46030/post-946015 This post received 6 likes.

Hang Buttigieg Buttigieg wants Thomas Jefferson events and buildings renamed

Hang Schumer POLL: How would you rate the job done by Andrew Cuomo and Chuck Schumer? This post received 1 like.

"Dirlewanger level things to leftists" “ Squad “ member Bowman predicts Civil War if GOP wins in November <- Dirlewanger was a Nazi SS officer who massacred civilians. This post received 8 likes.

Those in the department of homeland security's disinformation governance board should be "publicly hanged" What is Free Speech ? This post received 4 likes.

"Has Dr Doom Fauci been hanged yet?" https://nygunforum.com/threads/all-things-coronavirus-merged-threads.35350/post-1062181 This post received 4 likes.

Clintons should have been "executed by firing squad or hanging" Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI This post received 4 likes.

"all executives of Twitter should be arrested, tried for treason by a military tribunal, and the sentence administered with "extreme prejudice"" https://nygunforum.com/threads/all-things-coronavirus-merged-threads.35350/post-799219 This post received 4 likes.

 

[dsdmmat]

Report it when you see it so we can take care of it. Don't reply to it just report it. Simple as that.

 

[Celt]

Hmm, saying things like "traitors should be hanged" is a far cry from terrorism.

If someone said they intended to commit violence, or recruited others to commit violence, and saying so in a serious way(not venting frustration type manner) then that is a different story. If this were the case i would agree it shouldnt be acceptable. As @dsdmmat said hit the report button.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Didnt know this was “The View” ?

 

[libertysnake]

Might not be a popular opinion, but I agree there is a difference between a call to violence, and wanting to see people locked up and tried. I always stop shy of a call to violence, although I'm not opposed to waging economic warfare given that is already being done against conservatives and gun owners -- especially as of recently.

 

[dsdmmat]

It is pretty easy to report things you think violate the rules. The Adimin or Moderator on duty will take a look and make the call if it does or does not violate the rules. If it is questionable it may be left up or taken down waiting for a conference with the site admins.

@HEX is getting pretty quick at repairing the report button. So please use it. We are trying to see if he can get below 5 seconds from notification to fixed.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Wouldnt it be easier just to lose the couple bad apples vs many orher ?

 

[dsdmmat]

Wouldnt it be easier just to lose the couple bad apples vs many orher ?

This place is not an echo chamber. If you don’t listen to other’s opinions you don’t know how to counteract their arguments.

Imagine how boring the news would be if they knew something about guns. Nobody would ever yell you F’ing idiot at the TV. Then you couldn’t go to the local PTA meeting and hear the same talking points spewed by Karen and her 3 ugly step sisters. Life would get pretty boring if everything was served with pineapple ice cream. Live a little, yell at your TV.

Rule violators are warned and then tossed if they continue to violate the standard set forth by the site owners.

The report button is for people to report standards violations to keep this place a pleasant site to chat and bs on.

The ignore button is there to help prevent people from getting themselves banned for personal attacks.

Occasionally we have had to permanently ban people. is unfortunate and something we try to avoid but some people really go out of their way to earn a perm ban.

take a chance and learn the ways of your opponent then counter act their view with facts and logic. It is much simpler than getting banned.

 

[HEX]

@HEX is getting pretty quick at repairing the report button. So please use it. We are trying to see if he can get below 5 seconds from notification to fixed.

Hah !

Hmm, saying things like "traitors should be hanged" is a far cry from terrorism.

If someone said they intended to commit violence, or recruited others to commit violence, and saying so in a serious way(not venting frustration type manner) then that is a different story. If this were the case i would agree it shouldnt be acceptable. As @dsdmmat said hit the report button.

Might not be a popular opinion, but I agree there is a difference between a call to violence, and wanting to see people locked up and tried. I always stop shy of a call to violence, although I'm not opposed to waging economic warfare given that is already being done against conservatives and gun owners -- especially as of recently.

Yes, I'd agree with these statements. @dsdmmat and I had a conversation about this thread and came to very similar conclusions.
We've got some fart smell.. er.. I mean smart fellers here.

Would it be a call to terrorism or violence to state something like, "Certain criminals deserve the death penalty" ? Clearly not, and context is always relevant.

The examples provided by @Blimey are mostly negated, at least in the sense that they break the rules, by such consideration. There are opinions in those statements, which may in fact "reflect poorly on the site", in so much as someone might judge by individual members, but that is not relevant (to moderation anyway) because we don't moderate based on opinions (including our own); we do it based on the rules.
There are statements in there though.. for example, "Kill all democrats", yes, that's perhaps a step too far and could be construed as a call to violence. If it were preceded with "Let's go" or "I will" , then certainly it would be.

It all comes back pretty simply to what @dsdmmat already said.

It is pretty easy to report things you think violate the rules. The Admin or Moderator on duty will take a look and make the call if it does or does not violate the rules. If it is questionable it may be left up or taken down waiting for a conference with the site admins.

Not everything is black and white; perhaps least of all in recent times.. but some things still are. I would highly recommend and appreciate if people always stopped and considered how things do reflect on the site and on the firearm community as a whole before making any post. Some folks do have much faster fingers than brains. Sad but true.

 

[HEX]

Well.. some of this thread turned into a real cluster..fudge. This section of help of feedback is generally intended to address site staff about things. @dsdmmat and I had actually talked specifically about it and initially decided to leave it open to further discussion, but.. that didn't turn out great in some ways.
So, having thought it over, I've decided to just pull all of it (good and bad) after the point of our 'official' responses on the matter. I do want to be very clear though, there were good bits in there from folks, just as there were also problematic ones from other folks, so don't be offended if your posts got pulled. Everything did, because (in hindsight) it probably should have been closed once the matter to staff was addressed in full and this is the section that it is.

Also perhaps important to note is that we don't have any issue with a discussion (so long as it can remain peaceable) of the essential topics here.. i.e. language, the use thereof on the site, etc and so on , in an appropriate section of the site. (It just can't be the clown show this one turned into..heh). If people can discuss it rationally, and avoid turning it into an antagonizing other members (or the membership as a whole) party, I think it's a good and worthwhile topic and discussion to have.
Also, I intend to have a discussion or two in private conversation about drawing the line between having opinions outside of the echo chamber (no issue with that) and actual trolling (issue with that).

I told @dsdmmat I was going to do this with this thread (and asked his opinion on it, because I like to have that check and balance to try to make sure I'm being fair). His only request was that I made the last words of my post, “This is why we cannot have nice things”