Scalia replacement wont help our cause

[RDN]

If Gorsuch replaces Scalia as a conservative justice, the balance should be 5 to 4 (conservative)
But :
When Scalia was alive the SCOTUS refuse to hear AWB cases on gun control brought before them.
The philosophical make / balance of the Hight Court was and is in question. There is one or two "conservative" justices that seem to waver on gun control. So nothing will change.

We need one of those gun-grabbing Liberal justices to some how not show up to court anymore - just saying

P.S. even then our situation in New York with unSAFE act wont change. NY is a lost cause for gun rights.

 

[Podmonkey]

Trump will be getting at least one other pick in there. 3 if Ginsberg kicks it. Maybe even more! Then we can start cramming some pro gun moves up the lefts ass, including some legal action agains unSAFE!

 

[kev74]

If Gorsuch replaces Scalia as a conservative justice, the balance should be 5 to 4 (conservative)
But :
When Scalia was alive the SCOTUS refuse to hear AWB cases on gun control brought before them.
The philosophical make / balance of the Hight Court was and is in question. There is one or two "conservative" justices that seem to waver on gun control. So nothing will change.

We need one of those gun-grabbing Liberal justices to some how not show up to court anymore - just saying

P.S. even then our situation in New York with unSAFE act wont change. NY is a lost cause for gun rights.

How do you stay so up-beat?

5-4 is a whole lot better than 4-4. Its also a 'good first step' to 6-3 and 7-2.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I'll hold off judging Gorsuch until he is on SCOTUS and we see how he actually rules. Right now, I'm still a bit unsure about him.

As for the current situation, I agree with RDN. Even when Scalia was alive, they turned down some gun cases that should have been slam dunks for our side,- including one obvious one from NJ (Drake v Jerejian).

Personally, I'm looking for Ginsburg to croak during a hearing this year; then for Kennedy to realize it is time for him to step down and enjoy a brief retirement while he still can; Sotomayer to die in a plane crash; and for Kagan to die quickly from some incurable disease.

That would be a good start to fixing what is wrong with SCOTUS.

 

[masterswimmer]

I'll hold off judging Gorsuch until he is on SCOTUS and we see how he actually rules. Right now, I'm still a bit unsure about him.

As for the current situation, I agree with RDN. Even when Scalia was alive, they turned down some gun cases that should have been slam dunks for our side,- including one obvious one from NJ (Drake v Jerejian).

Personally, I'm looking for Ginsburg to croak during a hearing this year; then for Kennedy to realize it is time for him to step down and enjoy a brief retirement while he still can; Sotomayer to die in a plane crash; and for Kagan to die quickly from some incurable disease.

That would be a good start to fixing what is wrong with SCOTUS.

Sorry VEV, I just can't wish death upon someone with a different opinion than mine. I do hope Kennedy retires (which he's already stated he will in a year or so). Ginsburg does not look healthy, but I do not wish an untimely death upon her. I do wish she'd take advantage of her later years and retire though. Sotomayor and Kagan are likely going to be around for quite awhile. I do not wish anything upon them, other than maybe they'll see the light and uphold justice according to the constitution.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Sorry VEV, I just can't wish death upon someone with a different opinion than mine. I do hope Kennedy retires (which he's already stated he will in a year or so). Ginsburg does not look healthy, but I do not wish an untimely death upon her. I do wish she'd take advantage of her later years and retire though. Sotomayor and Kagan are likely going to be around for quite awhile. I do not wish anything upon them, other than maybe they'll see the light and uphold justice according to the constitution.

I hear you. However, when I look at the damage they do to the USA with some of their decisions, I am of the opinion that they fall under the category of "enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC". To me, it is not simply a matter of a difference of opinions.

Note, that I am NOT advocating any form of violence or criminal behavior against them. I just want them gone from SCOTUS, and given that they have lifetime appointments, and that very few of them ever voluntarily retire, dying is the only other way they leave the court. Thus, we are left with two options to hope for: voluntary retirement, or death.

Of course in Ginsburg's case, I wouldn't mind if she left us in some memorable way. Like maybe having a stroke during an argument when her views are repudiated with facts; having her flop on the floor drooling and twitching, while the argument continued to its' conclusion. Call it going out with style. Like when Governor Rockefeller died under a hooker in his office chair late at night. Or when Kadafi was captured after he was found hiding in a drain pipe. Or when Osama Bin Laden met his fate and was dispatched to an unmarked ocean grave.

Something memorable that we can fondly recall years later. Like "Hey, remember when..."

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I think this is a MAJOR reason the left is trying to position themselves to impeach trump. They do not want him making any more nominations.

Although then they would have to deal with pence

 

[Celt]

I hear you. However, when I look at the damage they do to the USA with some of their decisions, I am of the opinion that they fall under the category of "enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC". To me, it is not simply a matter of a difference of opinions.

Note, that I am NOT advocating any form of violence or criminal behavior against them. I just want them gone from SCOTUS, and given that they have lifetime appointments, and that very few of them ever voluntarily retire, dying is the only other way they leave the court. Thus, we are left with two options to hope for: voluntary retirement, or death.

Of course in Ginsburg's case, I wouldn't mind if she left us in some memorable way. Like maybe having a stroke during an argument when her views are repudiated with facts; having her flop on the floor drooling and twitching, while the argument continued to its' conclusion. Call it going out with style. Like when Governor Rockefeller died under a hooker in his office chair late at night. Or when Kadafi was captured after he was found hiding in a drain pipe. Or when Osama Bin Laden met his fate and was dispatched to an unmarked ocean grave.

Something memorable that we can fondly recall years later. Like "Hey, remember when..."

Exactly where i am. I used to think like masterswimmer, but after watching how these Progressive activists in Black robes destroy the Constitution and violate our rights intentionally, I have no sympathy for them at all. I used to not wish ill upon anyone because of karma. Once I realized that karma wouldn't be coming back to get me (because untimely deaths of natural causes on them is simply Karma catching up with them for all the evil and destruction they have caused already) I no longer held back with the disdain i have for them.

But, to the point the original poster made, I agree that Gorsuch alone is not a guarantee for our second amendment rights. Because we have a flip-flopper when it comes to the 2nd Amendment with one of these supposed conservative justices. We need Breyer and/or Ginsburg to be replaced, both would be better. This is all the more importantly why we need to ensure two terms for Trump.

 

[Burzum]

Gorsuch looks to be another Roberts / Alito type, they get really exercised on abortion, euthanasia, maybe embryonic stem cells, and have a nose up the posterior of corporate multi-nationals, but are as worthless as Ginsburg on guns, which to me means worthless, period.

If Roberts and Alito were actual Conservatives, and not just "Christian Conservatives," they would have joined with justices Scalia and Thomas granting cert. to the Chicago AWB case, then when time for the majority opinion, justice Kennedy could have joined on and delineated just what a state and municipality can and cannot do when attacking the civil rights enshrined in the 2nd Amendment.

Still better than anything a Dem would put on the Court, at least in theory, time will tell, you have to watch these "Christian Conservatives" as some seem to love illegal aliens too.

 

[Catskillkid]

Gorsuch looks to be another Roberts / Alito type, they get really exercised on abortion, euthanasia, maybe embryonic stem cells, and have a nose up the posterior of corporate multi-nationals, but are as worthless as Ginsburg on guns, which to me means worthless, period.

If Roberts and Alito were actual Conservatives, and not just "Christian Conservatives," they would have joined with justices Scalia and Thomas granting cert. to the Chicago AWB case, then when time for the majority opinion, justice Kennedy could have joined on and delineated just what a state and municipality can and cannot do when attacking the civil rights enshrined in the 2nd Amendment.

Still better than anything a Dem would put on the Court, at least in theory, time will tell, you have to watch these "Christian Conservatives" as some seem to love illegal aliens too.

This has so far been my biggest problem with the so called conservative justices too. Way too concerned about abortion but willing to send gun rights down the river. Gorsuch sounds like he'd be more like Scalia than Roberts or Alito but sadly we won't know until he's on the bench.

 

[Saltwater60]

I think this is a MAJOR reason the left is trying to position themselves to impeach trump. They do not want him making any more nominations.

Although then they would have to deal with pence

Honestly I think pence would do a better job anyway. I think trump has the skills and is doing a good job it's just his stupid comments make it look a lot worse than it is. My 401k looks good.

 

[Blimey]

Here you go, guys.

Here Are the Odds that the Next President Will Need to Replace Another Justice Who Has Passed Away

As for Trump he is a fantastic spectacle. If the left gets their way and impeaches him, we are left with Pence. A pretty good consolation prize, and he may even be more conservative than Trump, so the left might even be worse off hehe

 

[RDN]

Honestly I think pence would do a better job anyway. I think trump has the skills and is doing a good job it's just his stupid comments make it look a lot worse than it is. My 401k looks good.

Agree, Trump makes a lot of good points; but he just conveys them in a very unorthodox (or F- up) manor.

 

[1911guy]

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Of course in Ginsburg's case, I wouldn't mind if she left us in some memorable way. Like maybe having a stroke during an argument when her views are repudiated with facts; having her flop on the floor drooling and twitching, while the argument continued to its' conclusion. Call it going out with style. Like when Governor Rockefeller died under a hooker in his office chair late at night. Or when Kadafi was captured after he was found hiding in a drain pipe. Or when Osama Bin Laden met his fate and was dispatched to an unmarked ocean grave.

Something memorable that we can fondly recall years later. Like "Hey, remember when..."

A slight nit to pick: Kadafi was captured while escaping Libya in a motor vehicle. Sadam Hussein was in the drain.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

A slight nit to pick: Kadafi was captured while escaping Libya in a motor vehicle. Sadam Hussein was in the drain.

As I recall, Saddam Hussein was captured by US soldiers after he was found hiding in a hidden hole underground on a farm in the area of his hometown, and I think he was either ordered or dragged out and sent to prison, and later executed.

Kadafi was in fact fleeing in a convoy of vehicles that were shot up and forced to stop. He fled the vehicle and tried hiding in a drain pipe under the road. As I recall he was unceromoniously pulled out, and after asking one of his captors why was he treating him like he was, and didn't he know who he was, that he was promptly beaten to death by the crowd.

In both cases, a rather pathetic ending to a couple of tyrants.

 

[Frankly]

It's time for Putin to step up and return 20% of the American Uranium by placing it underneath the bench those eight douchebags preside on top of.