New hartford NY knifing incident at Applebees stopped by CC
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ManualF150
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This might get interesting...
byron
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I don't think they will arrest be hard to get a jury to convict. 2 judges already saying it's unconstitutional if found unconstitutional lawsuit coming their way I feel if the DA is smart he'll back off this one.
Doc8404
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They won’t arrest.
the DA won’t support it.
the DA won’t support it.
GTN
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If they don’t charge him then this stupid law needs be wiped out
Steal2B
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spat
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She didn't say that because she believed it.
She said it because she wanted people who get all their news from the MSM to believe it.
The pump and dump con man doesn't really believe the stock is great, he just wants the mark to believe it.
heil hochul won't press for this man's arrest. I doubt she'll even mention this and, when questioned, will just blow it off or say something like "I'll have to get back to you on that".
She would know that arresting this man would seriously risk her pride-and-joy legislation getting overturned in court, and any attempt to demonize this man would backfire even more than her decision to have ugly eyebrows painted on her forehead.
She would know that arresting this man would seriously risk her pride-and-joy legislation getting overturned in court, and any attempt to demonize this man would backfire even more than her decision to have ugly eyebrows painted on her forehead.
livingston
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Having a gun (lawful or un lawful ) in a place that serves drinks in many cases have been on the books for decades depending upon the area involved. Some one weigh in but often it is a percentage of revenue Bar vs food determines this. Could charge him under a law that has been on the books for decades avoiding a court challenge to what has been just introduced ?
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livingston
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From the comments section
THE TRUTH
1 day ago
Question ? Why was this individual carrying a firearm into a restaurant or carrying it in new Hartford for a Reason?? Used to frequent that Applebee's myself ....A decade ago..It Never had any issues like this....SCARY..LEAVE NYS FOLKS...
www.wktv.com
THE TRUTH
1 day ago
Question ? Why was this individual carrying a firearm into a restaurant or carrying it in new Hartford for a Reason?? Used to frequent that Applebee's myself ....A decade ago..It Never had any issues like this....SCARY..LEAVE NYS FOLKS...
Customer with gun stops assailant at New Hartford Applebee's
NEW HARTFORD, N.Y.-- Police in New Hartford arrested a Utica man who allegedly tried to attack workers at Applebee's on Commercial Drive Saturday but was stopped by a customer with
NY never had any such law as far as I know. Check out the recent district court decision. There is a well reasoned and thorough explanation about this. To boil it down for you, there is simply no history and tradition of guns being banned in places that sell alcohol. They were able to find where territories banned it in a few cases but they were not states at that time so they don’t really count and the court said that a few places banning guns is not the same as a national historical tradition of it. The Supreme Court has spoken and if it wasn’t a historical tradition in 1791 or some time in 1800 then it doesn’t pass the test and doesn’t fly.
Uninformed and Compliant
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Sorry, but I just gotta.
Willyone
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No good deed goes unpunished, so they say. It'll be interesting to see the outcome, if there is an outcome published. If the good guy with the gun isn't punished in some way, the lib press might simply sweep the story under the rug. That way the good guy and his gun won't look good at all.
GTN
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He will probably be sued by the perp for making him feel unsafe
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maverick52
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I read the comments and was shocked by one detail. Evidently some of the commentators were actually witnessed and were there. Some asshole was actually yelling at the guy who pulled a gun and demanding he furnish his permit before police arrived. These are the dickheads out there.
Doc8404
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I believe the asshat yelling is a volunteer fire fighter too.
maverick52
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He commented on the thread and was called out by another witness. Sounds like a total douche
Acer-m14
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spat
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That sort of law is common in many places. It is not very common in NY.
You can't charge this guy for violating some law that only exists in Oklahoma or something.
GTN
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I’m pretty sure in the new ccia laws if liquor is sold it’s now illegal to cc there
Dr. Evil
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Applebees sells liquor? What a high class chain lol.
2WheelGnnr
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I dont think the DA will press it knowing the flack they may probably get as a good guy is always good guy even if he does a bad thing during the good deed... They will let it ride...but somewhere down the line I think if circumstances right they will charge someone doing that.........
It shows the concensus among permit holders is that CONCEALED is CONCEALED and I value my life and families safety more that some law....dammit!!!!
no sign or sign is gonna change/dictate that....God Given right...
It shows the concensus among permit holders is that CONCEALED is CONCEALED and I value my life and families safety more that some law....dammit!!!!
no sign or sign is gonna change/dictate that....God Given right...
dwa12479
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How in the holy hell would the average Joe have any idea the revenue breakdown of a local restaurant to know if it's legal to carry in there? I've never heard of such a law.
ManualF150
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Texas, but it has to be posted on a sign:
www.concealedcarry-ed.com
I've been to Texas a few times, and rarely saw that sign...
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Rules for 51% Businesses
www.concealedcarry-ed.com
I've been to Texas a few times, and rarely saw that sign...
Bustedknees
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this would have been a great time to give the knife back to the perp and let the fireman take his chances.
If someone in Texas sued they’d win as that law does not meet the bar set in Bruen. It has to be a widely accepted law on the books in 1791 or similar. Just because it’s been the law in Texas for 20,40,65 years in Texas doesn’t make it a historical tradition in the nation.Texas, but it has to be posted on a sign:
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Rules for 51% Businesses
I've been to Texas a few times, and rarely saw that sign...
Uninformed and Compliant
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Acer-m14
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Texas, but it has to be posted on a sign:
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Rules for 51% Businesses
I've been to Texas a few times, and rarely saw that sign...
damn regulations to keep that alch license again .. ( not a law )
wizrd
6.5 Creedmoor
If it's worth anything, the responding police treated the good samaritan like the hero he is.
Bustedknees
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I'm not 100% sure but I think I met and had several drinks with the police chief last summer. Nice guy,,, but he did not personally carry while off duty and I'd say he wasn't a supporter of it either.