Many of us here have been talking exactly about this topic. We realize how big of a threat it is. IMO it's likely going to be the basis for ww3 and/or economic collapse.
West vs BRICS
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Many of us here have been talking exactly about this topic. We realize how big of a threat it is. IMO it's likely going to be the basis for ww3 and/or economic collapse.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Everything going on today on the global stage is connected to BRICS plus. Ukraine, Taiwan, Venezuela oil, Russian price cap, blown gas lines, Digital Dollar, Cyrpto regulations, U.S. debt being dumped, food sourcing, Green energy push...ect Anything connected to the global reserve currency the dollar is all in response to BRICS plus. We either move to new energy, food sourcing and monetary system or its WW3. The fact that no western media is covering it is all the proof that is needed.
I would love to know what the timeline is.
I believe whole heartedly this is the defining threat of our generation.
Not the war on terror but BRICS vs. The west.
This to be me, IMO, is cold war 2.0 and at stake is the USD status of the global reserve currency.
The war in Ukraine and the west kicking Russia out of swift is one hell of an unintended consequence of speeding up the process.
If or when we lose our status as global currency, overnight our debt goes from being a fringe tin foil hat internet weirdo concern to a frickin boat anchor. Our economy can Venezuela itself. I basically envision the scenario playing out from James Rawles "patriots" type of economic collapse once we lose our global reserve currency status.
The US.gov knows this too. Which for other reasons makes it Scary. Our elites would rather scuttle the ship than to come up with a coordinated plan to get into the lifeboats. I Know that's a bad metaphor. But they refuse to give up any power prestige or wealth to go into a period of austerity and have the useless takers revolt against them with pitchforks and have their own personal net worths melt down that they would rather take us into ww3 to try to preserve our status. The higher up we are the farther there is to fall down.
i just wish I knew I'd this is 10 weeks, 10 months or 10 years away from happening. It's inevitable, it's going to happen and we have 2 choices accept it and plan accordingly to be on par with other countries or fight it and go to war.
I'll never forget this lesson as long as I live. In high school we had a holocaust survivor from poland come in as a guest speaker. I love history and even in high school it had my attention I didn't appreciate this as much at the time as I do know. But anyway I digress. Here's what the old man had to share with use 15 year olds....he said in the 1930s his father saw war coming. He knew it was going to happen. He tried to talk to other people in the village about it and everyone laughed it off. The few people who listened and gave him the time of day couldn't envision the reasons or tactics for ww2 with the early blitzkrieg and envisioned WW1 version 2.0. Static trench warfare without much movement. He said his father was planning to take his family to flee but was mocked by the local villagers for being too alarmist. This is in 1937 or 1938 if memory is correct. It's a tragedy because he was given the gift to see it coming and had time to act but by the time he realized he was right in 1939 it was too late and they were screwed. I don't want to be that guy.
I really wish more were paying attention
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If we had leadership that had any savvy as opposed to a puppet regime of incompetents we would woo India away from BRICS and into our sphere. India is a latent world power and would make a very strong ally against China.
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RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Wouldn't we all.
I don't believe there is a master plan, an intact one anyway, but more of a collection reactionary measures of which we are not in control of, nor are they. Too many moving parts but control of the money supply and industry would help them in making a educated guess of what would happen but no guarantees.
It's clear the Biden administration was not considering a digital currency even after the CB in the EU announced they were exploring one. At the time the EU Central Banks (CB's) were raising interest rates from below 0% towards 0%. They actual caused our treasury yields to invert in August of 2020. Things are already bad enough in the EU that you paid the bank to keep your money. So, you kept the money in the economy. A failing economy and the banks were investing in the U.S. and Trump. That is the truth. Trump was not only putting America on the right path but the EU was banking on it and Trumps deals with China. The EU standing on the coat tails of Trump.
Before any announcement of a digital currency they would need to reign in crypto as it would be a competing entity to any digital currency which will derive its value the same way crypto does and that is through faith and the number of users it has. They started to explore that in 2020 but it only fueled the buying of crypto as they didn't have any regulations to put forth.
The globalists were first tipped off by BRICS when it was discovered the amount of gold purchased by those nations came out. It was more than double the entire amount held by the West collectively. The talk is that a BRICS digital currency would be pegged to this gold. This is what sparked the expedited exploration of a digital currency. Money could be created from simple demand and not pegged to gold or oil in which inflation could cause issues. Be the first to roll it out.
BRICS has positioned itself well and the west knows this and will be subjugated to their policies for the near and long term future for energy, food, manufacturing....ect. Favored nations within BRICS will get goods discounted and those willing to dump the dollar like Argentina has currently done, will get more favorable trade terms. With Trump out of the way, Putin saw an opportunity to shore up his defensive line against NATO, grab more grain, fertilizer and southern deep water ports for exporting of his goods. We gave him the narrative under a ethic cleansing civil war we ignored and financed Nazi battalions (AZOV) for eight years. All started under Mr. O.
Today the globalists are grabbing up power by creating industry, destroying industry, grabbing citizens bank accounts, taking away rights, changing to digital currency in an effort to control an uncontrollable outcome. We are letting them.
Today, this moment, our oil is coming from a dictator in Venezuela and third party from Russia. Just look at the oil futures contracts. lol
Enjoy the gasoline price drop. Brought to by those two countries. But the administration wont dare say it nor will our media report it. lol
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meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
When you have economic problems, corruption and unprecedented inequality combined with ignorance you have the perfect recipe to create fear. Then fear is used to fuel a system where ignorance persists so people can be manipulated via disinformation and indoctrination.
That is essential for the modern totalitarian and neo marxist agendas that have infiltrated all areas of government and all organisms of society in order to adquire full control.
These are not your average democrats or republicans but a new breed of subversive extremists.
Borders do not mean much to them so in this quest for control regions within the empire will collide and
try to reclaim their identity, pride and freedom.
some might say the only way to resolve is war but war has never been a solution.
Everyone looses in a war.
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For example, who is going to win the war with Russia? Nobody, both sides have already lost.
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history repeating itself yet many dont want to teach history in schools anymore.
That is essential for the modern totalitarian and neo marxist agendas that have infiltrated all areas of government and all organisms of society in order to adquire full control.
These are not your average democrats or republicans but a new breed of subversive extremists.
Borders do not mean much to them so in this quest for control regions within the empire will collide and
try to reclaim their identity, pride and freedom.
some might say the only way to resolve is war but war has never been a solution.
Everyone looses in a war.
...
For example, who is going to win the war with Russia? Nobody, both sides have already lost.
...
history repeating itself yet many dont want to teach history in schools anymore.
Seems like a good thread for this....
SCOTT RITTER: G7 vs BRICS — Off to the Races
"Last summer, the Group of 7 (G7), a self-anointed forum of nations that view themselves as the most influential economies in the world, gathered at Schloss Elmau, near Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, to hold their annual meeting. Their focus was punishing Russia through additional sanctions, further arming of Ukraine and the containment of China.
At the same time, China hosted, through video conference, a gathering of the BRICS economic forum. Comprised of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, this collection of nations relegated to the status of so-called developing economies focused on strengthening economic bonds, international economic development and how to address what they collectively deemed the counter-productive policies of the G7."
From the article...Hint - the G7 and "Western Civ" are taking it up the Hershey Highway, and I can't say I'm displeased.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
SCOTT RITTER: G7 vs BRICS — Off to the Races
"Last summer, the Group of 7 (G7), a self-anointed forum of nations that view themselves as the most influential economies in the world, gathered at Schloss Elmau, near Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, to hold their annual meeting. Their focus was punishing Russia through additional sanctions, further arming of Ukraine and the containment of China.
At the same time, China hosted, through video conference, a gathering of the BRICS economic forum. Comprised of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, this collection of nations relegated to the status of so-called developing economies focused on strengthening economic bonds, international economic development and how to address what they collectively deemed the counter-productive policies of the G7."
From the article...Hint - the G7 and "Western Civ" are taking it up the Hershey Highway, and I can't say I'm displeased.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
there is a third option. Start drilling for oil in AMERICA. If America becomes the world's supplier of oil, again This would end the BRICS challenge to the Petro-dollar. America has ALL THE OIL and COAL the world needs. We just need a government willing to tell the eco-terrorists to shove it
But the timeline is NOT in our favor. Not with biden crime family and the deep state in charge. BRICS wants this done and over with by 2025, because if President Trump gets back in office, he will destroy their global plans. biden and the deep state couldn't care less, they are the protected class. And the average American doesn't have a clue, and they don't care. As long as Big Brother and Survivor are on TV, they are happy. Until one day they wake up and they can't feed their children.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio
44 minutes for a historical context.
Guys....
Its happening
www.barrons.com
I am outraged over the Nashville child murders but this story is a bombshell.
More and more of this is occurring all over the
world. Its going to be a crap storm.
People don't realize what's really going on.
Paging @RedBreast21 you love this stuff and always have a good take. BRICS is circumventing the USD.
This is utterly massive. If Enough countries ditch the usd it's ww3 to try and save it or hyperinflation. Both outcomes suck.
Its a huggggggge story
Its happening
China, Brazil Strike Deal To Ditch Dollar For Trade
China and Brazil have reached a deal to trade in their own currencies, ditching the US dollar as an intermediary, the Brazilian government said Wednesday, Beijing's latest salvo against the almighty greenback.
www.barrons.com
I am outraged over the Nashville child murders but this story is a bombshell.
More and more of this is occurring all over the
world. Its going to be a crap storm.
People don't realize what's really going on.
Paging @RedBreast21 you love this stuff and always have a good take. BRICS is circumventing the USD.
This is utterly massive. If Enough countries ditch the usd it's ww3 to try and save it or hyperinflation. Both outcomes suck.
Its a huggggggge story
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Old news. Saudi Arabia has already agreed weeks ago to accept Yuan. The Western media timing here is to sell the notion that China is just now orchestrating this to shape a WW3 narrative for Gen Z and the fucking RED DAWN idiots.Guys....
Its happening
China, Brazil Strike Deal To Ditch Dollar For Trade
China and Brazil have reached a deal to trade in their own currencies, ditching the US dollar as an intermediary, the Brazilian government said Wednesday, Beijing's latest salvo against the almighty greenback.
I am outraged over the Nashville child murders but this story is a bombshell.
More and more of this is occurring all over the
world. Its going to be a crap storm.
People don't realize what's really going on.
Paging @RedBreast21 you love this stuff and always have a good take. BRICS is circumventing the USD.
This is utterly massive. If Enough countries ditch the usd it's ww3 to try and save it or hyperinflation. Both outcomes suck.
Its a huggggggge story
It was put in motion 15 years ago. Now just sit back and wait to see on the western media outlets the spin on this. So far, no mention of BRICS which is nothing more than a new EU to challenge the dollar after it was pegged to oil. BRICS is now growing at a fast pace with the help of the over inflated global value of the USD which has wrecked smaller economies driving them to apply for membership.
The globalists would rather rule over the ashes than accept they have been out smarted. Their last con move is to sell you and others on the need for ww3. The banking collapse, inflation that is coming and CBDC is their narrative. Just look at the 6 mos vs the 2 to 3 mos Tbills. Its coming sooner that we all think.
What can we as individuals do about it?
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
I am not a financial advisor but for my situation, moving into cash and short term T-bills (Safer at the moment. It could change tomorrow) maybe dividend defense stocks in proper proportions is my move today. Land would be an investment for the future. I say be in cash as it will allow you to move quickly and take advantage of opportunities. These situations are nothing new to empires of the past. I posted a video above but its 44 minutes long but the attention span of most Americans is way short of that. lol
In the opinion of the West, the expanded influence of the dollar was necessary to control inflation both in American and the EU. Keeping interest rates low and Americans enjoying prosperity while other nations suffered with our exported inflation. Another joining of economies (BRICS) to compete against is the answer for these countries situation clearly caused by the West. Just like the creation of the EU to answer the new petro dollar. Now what the globalist have to sell you on is the idea that what they did creating the EU over 40 years ago is unacceptable today for the rest of the world.
Talking to my financial guy, yields nothing but the advice I already knew. Its changing daily. It was easy work being a retirement advisor for the past 20 years, not so today. I have my advisors on speed dial and use it. lol
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Shoots100
.44 mag
We are our own worst enemy.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
No one has 44 minutes? Seriously?
I'll watch it at some point. Its on my list of things to watch
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Only poking fun.
The video only scratches the surface of the historical aspect of rising and falling empires. Doesn't make any real current assumptions and only points out consistent trends that occur.
I posted it only to avoid a long post. lol
Almost everyone today is programed to focus for very short periods of time on activities that involve our brains. preferring video or reading. We unconsciously avoid reading long posts, books, or attempt to seek out contextual understanding of an issue or particular subject that takes longer that a couple of minutes. We only look for short influencing things that support a narrative we believe in. Whether right or wrong, that comes first. Especially to the younger generations. I'm Gen X and I'd say better that half that generation has fallen into that severely abbreviated thought process.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
I just watched all 44 minutes. the guy ain't wrong. But he left out something in modern times. First he left out external, global forces. Such as the WEF, which in my opinion, has its own goals of ruling the world. Notice I didn't say 'running the world'. Second, the WEF is more a facilitator than a ruler. By that I mean they Klaus Schwab and company, are trying to dictate which way the conflict goes, and therefore the ultimate outcome. But, old Klaus has a problem. he has no military to back up anything he's trying to accomplish. And if China and russia team up, and become global gangbangers, eventually, they will duke-it-out between themselves and that will lead to even more devastation.
Beyond all that. If America doesn't stop spending all our tax money on conflicts around the world, the biden regime ( not administration ) will simply spend the country into financial oblivion. At this point, Im more than willing to give Ukraine to russia or force some kind of peace. We can not keep sending them billions of dollars we don't have.
America can do two things to prevent that from happening.
one) start drilling for oil. become energy independent
two) start digging for coal, and sell it to china, russia and europe.
We can still head towards electrification, but the rest of the world can pay for it by buying our oil and coal
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Saudi Arabia, other OPEC+ producers announce voluntary oil output cuts
RIYADH: Saudi Arabia will voluntarily reduce its oil production by 500,000 barrels per day from May until the end of 2023 in coordination with other members of the oil producers’ alliance, the Saudi Press Agency reported on Sunday. Russia’s deputy prime minister also said Moscow would extend a...
www.arabnews.com
Shoots100
.44 mag
Is it too far fetched to think that Putin with Chinas backing encroached on Ukraine and are stalling the invasion with the intent of draining the US economy and the military's resources knowing that the Biden's/Dem's are heavily invested in Ukraine ?
This is a chess game and Biden's playing checkers.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Oil prices soar after Saudi Arabia leads coordinated OPEC+ cuts totaling more than 1 million barrels a day
A coordinated production cut from some major oil producers will take more than 1 million barrels of oil a day off the market from May.
www.marketwatch.com
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
The video was a very broad and for time sake couldn't get into each specific situation for the declining and Rising empire.
Here is the reality with energy independence aka oil and complete green energy solutions argumant. Both actually removes the demand for the U.S. to participate in global energy markets of which the USD basically controls now. The result is no need for any country to hold US dollars. It would hasten the decline of the dollar and collapse the American economy here at home withing a year. Very few families are prepared for that. Are you?
BRICS plus currently doesn't need any coal, oil, natural gas, fertilizer or food from the West or America in general. Currently those nations are trading with each other in a "most favorite nation status" with each other. Russia sells oil at nearly 50% reduced cost to BRICS.
If we could become completely independent from the world in both food and energy, our main competitor would be BRICS competing over the EU and a few others as a customer. Given the fact the EU is on the same continent as Russia it would be a hard sell with very low profit margins for the U.S. Like the old Soviet Union, our military would collapse for lack of spending and the country destitute for several generations.
I know this might be tough pill to swallow for most but the U.S. isn't liked by a majority of the world. Not the people so much, but the government we seem here to do nothing about.
We have the richest poor in the world. All of us have benefited at the cost of other citizens in 2nd and 3rd world countries. That's a fact.
On a lighter note, it doesn't benefit BRICS, Putin or Xi to have the US or EU collapse. I'm not going to unpack that now. I have zero confidence in the global elites that brought us to this point. They would rather collapse and destroy all that, than to have their wealth and future dictated by negotiating with Putin, Xi and the rest of BRICS, having no ability to choose leaders and control elections for their benefit.
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This story is right on topic of this thread.
Its happening right before our eyes as many of us have predicted
Its happening right before our eyes as many of us have predicted
'A New World Order'? The Iran-Russia-China Axis During the Biden Administration
"As Winston Churchill famously pointed out, "I never worry about action, but only about inaction". The Biden administration's inaction has led to the creation of a new axis of tyrannies: Russia, China and Iran, with North Korea not far behind."
I don't have much use for John Bolton - he seems to be a crazed speed-freak with a toilet brush on his upper lip.
But I do agree with this quote...
"The Chinese," Bolton added, "have a strategy they've been following... We kind of wander around from day to day."
"As Winston Churchill famously pointed out, "I never worry about action, but only about inaction". The Biden administration's inaction has led to the creation of a new axis of tyrannies: Russia, China and Iran, with North Korea not far behind."
I don't have much use for John Bolton - he seems to be a crazed speed-freak with a toilet brush on his upper lip.
But I do agree with this quote...
"The Chinese," Bolton added, "have a strategy they've been following... We kind of wander around from day to day."
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
The EU started to form in 1974. An answer to the U.S. with the creation of the petro dollar in 1972. Which gave the U.S. the ability to print trillions of dollars against OPEC oil in the ground. The united states was the worlds defacto trading currency since WW2 until its gold reserves were to low too print money against. Once the dollar was pegged to oil, that was a global game changer and the start of the EU formation. By 2000 the Euro was created. Why? Simple answer is that European countries, as individuals, would be subjugated to U.S. economic will. Bonding their economies together gave them the best chance to be stable against the economic will of America. It works. As long as the petro dollar agreement stands, the dollar will reign supreme. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there really wasn't a need for NATO and a super strong economic relationship with the EU. Hence Germany's pipeline to Putin. The EU was becoming a north African currency until Momar Kadafi wanted to join African nations into a union as well. Well, that didn't go over well with the EU. So......lol
BRICS is nothing but a new creation of countries bonding together their economic power. That power comes in the form of oil, natural gas, rare earth minerals for batteries, food, fertlizer...ect, RAW materials the U.S. basically walked away from because it had to participate in global trade to keep the dollar the global currency. These countries are tired of being dictated too. India for decades has been unsuccessful in lifting any real percentage of its people out of poverty while the U.S. has the riches and fattest poor in the world at the cost of smaller economies dictated to by the U.S. dollar. It's a fact.
BRICS and the others seeking to join have been driven together by the U.S. and its feckless foreign policy decisions and wars.
It's not like it a secret. BRICS formed during Bush years.
If anyone here is advocating for war, then understand that your position is to subjugate smaller countries, their poor and others and turn them into subjects. That kind of flies in the face of the very founding principals of this country.
Before drinking the media Kool-Aid educated yourselves of global matters of the last 30 years.
The globalists need you, your kids, grand kids...ect, to save their wealth and maintain their control.
Its doesn't benefit BRICS Plus to collapse the West as we collectively are the richest and largest consumers of their manufacturing. Through debt of course. But that is for another discussion.
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I love this post. These are the most important discussions to be having right now and explain everything going on in global affairs right now
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
One year ago at the BRICS annual meeting in June of 2022, BRICS leaders said a currency for the union will be rolled out in the next 3 to 5 years. Well BRICS will be announcing their gold back currency way ahead of schedule in Augusts annual meeting.
For those paying attention, you already know that BRICS announced their BRICS bank (NDB) which will compete with the IMF. We will soon see exactly how much more gold the NDB has over the IMF.
Iran and Saudi's settled their dispute and Iran will be a member.
Yelling in China talking to XI about what? Yeah, shits getting real.
Fed now talking more rate hikes.
Canada now has 60, 70 and 90 year mortgages for roll out.
All this happening while your news feed is stuffed with ESG, Trans, BLM, Racism.....ect.
Seems like brics might be getting ready to transition to their new gold backed currency possibly in their upcoming August meeting.
Even more curious I read some story that there is speculation it might be a digital based currency
Even more curious I read some story that there is speculation it might be a digital based currency
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Their annual meeting is next month. Interesting how last June at their last meeting they said a currency could be 3 to 5 years out. Next month could simply be the announcement of the frame work or a time line for roll out. Last year the estimated amount of gold held by the current members of BRICS was about 1/3 more than that held by the entire west with the IMF. With more members filing for membership that number grows. They also are the number gold producing nations collectively. If they roll out a currency backed by gold it would effectively wrestle control over monetarty policy away from the West. If it's to be digital and that's a big if, having it pegged to gold would force the West to do the same as there really is only an assumption that a digital dollar would be pegged to either oil or gold but the haven't said anything about that. BRICS plus could destroy the oil standard the dollar is pegged to as well.
We'll have to see. One thing is for sure the global value of the dollar can be manipulated by BRICS. It's value is way down right now but you wouldn't hear that on any network.
Oh lookie over here.
You have to use your critical thinking to ponder the implications and connect the dots but this is not good.
finance.yahoo.com
You have to use your critical thinking to ponder the implications and connect the dots but this is not good.
Dollar dumped? India buys 1M barrels of UAE oil using rupees instead of USD for the first time — why this could be the beginning of the end for the greenback
With the UAE set to join BRICS, could it be over for the U.S. dollar?
finance.yahoo.com