WikiLeaks Carpetbombs the CIA

[prambo]

For better or worse, the moose is loose.

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Wikileaks Unveils 'Vault 7': "The Largest Ever Publication Of Confidential CIA Documents"; Another Snowden Emerges | Zero Hedge

 

[Podmonkey]

"Can engage in false flag cyber attacks which portray the Russians as the perpetrators."
That's this Russian election hacking business solved then. It's pretty obvious what happened now.

 

[MilesTeg]

With everything coming to light, it's amazing Trump got elected. The deep state was so pitted against him I still don't know how he won. I'm calling it now if he makes it 4 years without being assonated he will go for the full 8.

As a side note, this is why I'm not getting down on the guy for not doing anything with guns yet. He has so much up rooting to do he doesn't have time yet to help us.

 

[prambo]

"Can engage in false flag cyber attacks which portray the Russians as the perpetrators."
That's this Russian election hacking business solved then. It's pretty obvious what happened now.

I've been thinking about all of this shit for a couple of weeks. Given that Bush II was a globalist stooge (he likes The Wookie??!! WTF??), and then Obola, we've had 16 (that's SIXTEEN) years plus of being illegally spied on.

With everything coming to light, it's amazing Trump got elected. The deep state was so pitted against him I still don't know how he won. I'm calling it now if he makes it 4 years without being assonated he will go for the full 8.

As a side note, this is why I'm not getting down on the guy for not doing anything with guns yet. He has so much up rooting to do he doesn't have time yet to help us.

That's either one of the truest statements ever made, or we got rat-fucked again. At the present juncture I don't think Trump is a puppet.

 

[Podmonkey]

I've been thinking about all of this shit for a couple of weeks. Given that Bush II was a globalist stooge (he likes The Wookie??!! WTF??), and then Obola, we've had 16 (that's SIXTEEN) years plus of being illegally spied on.



That's either one of the truest statements ever made, or we got rat-fucked again. At the present juncture I don't think Trump is a puppet.

You can tell he is not from all the flack he is getting. Many historical figures that are admired now were despised and hated in their own time.

 

[Arjuna]

http://nypost.com/2017/03/07/wikileaks-says-it-has-published-thousands-of-cia-documents/

 

[speedkills27]

proof of all the rumors and stories of the .gov listening and watching is true, all in one massive dump. Too bad you have to be a nerd to sort through alot of it

 

[Plater1]

I wonder how long before Julian Assange has an "accident" and dies from his injuries. I think pissing off Clinton and messing with the election is one thing. Pissing off the CIA is quite another (ie:freaking stupid).

 

[GOPerfect]

I'll wait for all this information to be sifted through. I gotta tell ya, I am not as happy as some that all of this is being leaked.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I'll wait for all this information to be sifted through. I gotta tell ya, I am not as happy as some that all of this is being leaked.

Can you elaborate why?

 

[Patriot]

I hope you don't own a Samsung Smart TV with voice control. Because if you do, according to wikiLeaks, even when it's off, they're listening.

 

[Plater1]

Can you elaborate why?

It's letting our enemies know how we steal their secrets and now they can use this tech against us. At least wikileaks redacted the names in the documents.

 

[GOPerfect]

Can you elaborate why?

We have secrets for a reason. I for one don't want the World Population to know each and everything that we as a nation do.

Sure, it's nice knowing some of this. Even though we know what is going on, we still buy Smart TV's, Smart Phones and we search the hell out of the internet.

Sure, I think it is as wrong as hell what the CIA and other organizations do against their own people, but seriously, who is going to change the way they live their lives now that we "Know"?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

We have secrets for a reason. I for one don't want the World Population to know each and everything that we as a nation do.

Sure, it's nice knowing some of this. Even though we know what is going on, we still buy Smart TV's, Smart Phones and we search the hell out of the internet.

Sure, I think it is as wrong as hell what the CIA and other organizations do against their own people, but seriously, who is going to change the way they live their lives now that we "Know"?

Exactly. So what's changed? Most of us (including and more likely our enemies) knew, if not with strong probability, then intellectually and on some visceral level or at least had a hunch this sort of stuff was not only possible but probably going on. This just confirms it. I get the conflict of emotions over it and see your point though. Over the years however, I have felt that this type of surveillance has become increasingly less benevolent to the American people, and that is why we are seeing these leaks.

 

[spat]

We have secrets for a reason. I for one don't want the World Population to know each and everything that we as a nation do.

Sure, it's nice knowing some of this. Even though we know what is going on, we still buy Smart TV's, Smart Phones and we search the hell out of the internet.

Sure, I think it is as wrong as hell what the CIA and other organizations do against their own people, but seriously, who is going to change the way they live their lives now that we "Know"?

There are some secrets we need to keep of course, but quite frankly I am more afraid of our government than I am of the rest of the world put together.

If the price for us keeping an eye on them is that the rest of the world gets those secrets too, I am OK with that.

 

[GOPerfect]

There are some secrets we need to keep of course, but quite frankly I am more afraid of our government than I am of the rest of the world put together.

If the price for us keeping an eye on them is that the rest of the world gets those secrets too, I am OK with that.

Yep, what our own Government does against its' own people is disgusting. The watchful and prodding eye that they maintain on Americans is quite unsettling. I do not want other Countries to understand how our people do things. I do not want other Nations to have these secrets nor do I want them to be able to use this stuff against us.

 

[MothMan]

Pissing off the CIA is quite another (ie:freaking stupid).

Isn't this what Chucky smuck Schlumer said to PEDJT??

DJT is calling bluffs! If there were warrants and surveillance then " what did potus, BHO, know and when did he know it?" If there wasn't, then why has the MSM mislead the US Gov and citizens for the past number of months. Total loss of credibility due to DJT. Just my .

 

[vanderblack]

If this is true, it is the largest leak in history and the ramifications are beyond anything most people can imagine. What is stated in the documents basically boils down to, the CIA could have the ability to access any computer/tv/phone/etc anytime they want. There would be no way to tell if they have or when they are. ALL of the information we are fed as having come from other countries hacking abilities, for example, Russians hacked the DNC and specifically effected the election could really have been done by our own CIA and made to look like it was Russia. We will never be able to trust anything we hear again, regardless of the source. Legitimate sources of information could be just another target of the government. The most trusted sources of information could simply have been fed what the government wanted them to believe and they would have no way to know the difference.

If true, while it exposes things that many will consider to be overreach, it exposes things that will cause tremendous anger and pushback. If you think the government has practiced overreach and has stomped on our rights, just wait. It is like we were complaining about pickpocketing while a murder was taking place behind our backs.

 

[tirwin1]

I am also uneasy with the release of this information. You can hate the CIA and the deep state all you want. It doesn't change the fact this country has enemies that now know our secrets and can determine countermeasures. Wikileaks says they aren't in bed with the russians, but why are only american secrets revealed? Why nothing on the russians or the chinese? I am not thrilled with the ability of the CIA/NSA and other agencies to read every email and record every phone conversation. I think congress has been lax in its oversight because no one wants to be against "national security." But there has to be some limits.

Jesus, even samsung TVs are now listening devices. Maybe going off the grid deep in the woods somewhere is the only alternative.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Wikileaks says they aren't in bed with the russians, but why are only american secrets revealed? Why nothing on the russians or the chinese? I am not thrilled with the ability of the CIA/NSA and other agencies to read every email and record every phone conversation. I think congress has been lax in its oversight because no one wants to be against "national security." But there has to be some limits.

Jesus, even samsung TVs are now listening devices. Maybe going off the grid deep in the woods somewhere is the only alternative.

That is a good question and the best answer I can field at this time is that the US is really the last strong hold/obstacle in the deepstate/globalist scheme. Congress is weak, corrupt and ineffectual at best. We have a judiciary heavily infiltrated with activist judges. I think a lot of people don't quite realize the power these alphabet agencies (the de facto 4th branch of government) wield now and the past few decades at least, of the executive branch has been party to whats been slowly replacing our once great system of self governance. Believe it or not, what happens in this country, especially the next four to eight years, will have far reaching impact for the rest of the world. More so maybe than the other countries you cited. Just my 2 cents anyway.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Aaaaannnnnddd, I'm on ANOTHER list.

 

[prambo]

Regarding concerns over all these tools, and use against the American people, or anyone for that matter, is the following quote from the original Zerohedge article:

"Wikileaks claims that the CIA lost control of the majority of its hacking arsenal including malware, viruses, trojans, weaponized "zero day" exploits, malware remote control systems and associated documentation. This extraordinary collection, which amounts to more than several hundred million lines of code, gives its possessor the entire hacking capacity of the CIA. The archive appears to have been circulated among former U.S. government hackers and contractors in an unauthorized manner, one of whom has provided WikiLeaks with portions of the archive."

If the above is true, then a lot of this stuff is not hidden in CIA computers anymore. They lost sole control of it. Anyone, including such rogue nations as NK and Iran and none state actors such as ISIS could have it.

 

[Graptor]

I have real mixed feeling about Wikileaks. They expose the deep state and the evil of the Democrats, but weaken our defenses by exposing them.

 

[Defilade]

Justice Dept? *crickets*

 

[Podmonkey]

I am also uneasy with the release of this information. You can hate the CIA and the deep state all you want. It doesn't change the fact this country has enemies that now know our secrets and can determine countermeasures. Wikileaks says they aren't in bed with the russians, but why are only american secrets revealed? Why nothing on the russians or the chinese? I am not thrilled with the ability of the CIA/NSA and other agencies to read every email and record every phone conversation. I think congress has been lax in its oversight because no one wants to be against "national security." But there has to be some limits.

Jesus, even samsung TVs are now listening devices. Maybe going off the grid deep in the woods somewhere is the only alternative.

I would have to assume that the Russians and Chinese have the secrets locked down better than we do. It's easier to control information in an oppressive regeme like thise two have. Freedom of information flows both ways. Which is precisely why the gov't has been trying to surreptitiously manipulate it as they have.

 

[Burzum]

GOD BLESS ASSANGE!

IF ASSANGE DID NOT TAKE A STAND, then the propagandists in the MSM could continue to assail Trump as paranoid.

Who cares about compromising our capabilities abroad WHEN THE ENEMY IS HERE spying on you, and trying to STOP our president from saving the Republic?

WHO is the bigger threat to our Republic, Communist China, Germany, Saudi Arabia or the enemies HERE trying to sabotage Trump??????

 

[MikeyCNY]

Sounds like we have more swamp to drain.

 

[EMSBronco]

I have mixed feelings on this leak as well. I will say that I do appreciate that WikiLeaks is withholding the actual source code, but the leak is still there and source code is effectively in the public domain.

The United States was formed partly in opposition to oppressive government policies and I do see these leakers as something akin to our early patriots. Yes, what they have done risks American security and I have huge concerns about that. However, I also feel that many parts of our government are out of control.

The CIA, NSA, etc are no longer under the control of our elected officials. I believe there is a high probability that the leaks of communications between Trump (as President) and the Mexican president and Australian prime minister came from either the CIA or NSA. There is a very real risk that these agencies may be intercepting official communications of our elected officials and using their inside information to control the outcome of negotiations, or worse, controlling our elected officials.

So, ultimately, what is more important - ensuring that our elected officials, and the people, have control over the government or letting our enemies have access to our tools. This is a difficult issue to declare one way or another and I hope that the leakers are true patriots and had a difficult time making this decision.

 

[spat]

I have real mixed feeling about Wikileaks. They expose the deep state and the evil of the Democrats, but weaken our defenses by exposing them.

Our enemies on the outside are nothing compared to our enemies on the inside. There is literally nothing north korea or anyone else could do with this stuff that is as dangerous as what our own government is likely to.

It is like hiring serial killers to protect you from pickpockets.

 

[Dr. Evil]