My LGS manager insists it is now a felony to go out of NYS to buy ammunition. Does anyone know if this is true? I purchased a new pistol yesterday and had no trouble getting the NICS check ok'd. When he called for the ammunition I was denied. Absurd, isn't it? When I said I will just go to Pennsylvania he said it is against the law to do so.
Ammunition question
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JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Well, you cant break out of prison, and not expect to get caught. This after all, is New Yorkistan.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
LMFAO, how is the state going to stop you? Don't buy any along the border, because you'll have to go through customs on the way back. . Unless you declare yourself an illegal immigrant, then they can't touch you.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
i would find a new LGS ...
No such law...
Maybe there's a law saying you cannot buy an ICE car either when you go to a dealer selling EV's!
I wouldn't give that LGS a $1 if my money and would shout their ridiculousness to everyone else who might enter the joint!
The State is bad enough, but a dealer participating in promulgating absurd bullshit in order to make a few dollars should have in their license! Fuck them!
Pack a lunch, take a drive, fill you trunk and return!!!
Maybe stop by the LGS that told you that shit, ask him to come outside, pop the trunk and tell him Fuck You asshole! Close trunk and leave while laughing!
Maybe there's a law saying you cannot buy an ICE car either when you go to a dealer selling EV's!
I wouldn't give that LGS a $1 if my money and would shout their ridiculousness to everyone else who might enter the joint!
The State is bad enough, but a dealer participating in promulgating absurd bullshit in order to make a few dollars should have in their license! Fuck them!
Pack a lunch, take a drive, fill you trunk and return!!!
Maybe stop by the LGS that told you that shit, ask him to come outside, pop the trunk and tell him Fuck You asshole! Close trunk and leave while laughing!
Far king
.357 mag
Good advice!
There is not even a federal requirement for a dealer to ask for I.D. when purchasing ammunition.
Wonder what other bogus information that asshole is spewing to unwitting customers?
ManualF150
.308 Win
Please post the name and location of the LGS. We will be sure never to do business with them.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
There is no law that says you need to buy ammo in your home state or NYS and there is no law saying you need a background check to buy ammo except in a few states. If you buy ammo in NYS you need to have a background check done. It’s perfectly legal to buy ammo out of state and in fact I have done so twice since this crap came down. If it was illegal I wouldn’t admit to it here.
I have noticed a pattern of people buy a gun they get denied or delayed for that ammo to go with the gun. I personally think it’s NYS way of implementing a waiting period without passing the law to do so.
I have noticed a pattern of people buy a gun they get denied or delayed for that ammo to go with the gun. I personally think it’s NYS way of implementing a waiting period without passing the law to do so.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
STS556
.223 Rem
Does the name of this LGS happen to be Dark Storm Industries?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I heard they were doing this and glad it’s coming to fruition. It’s about a 4.5 hour ride for me so not easy but doable a couple of times per year. I like that they will have the ship to store option so I know what I’m getting before I go and what it will cost. This is a great idea.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
No, it isn't. I am not going to name the store as I have a good friend who works there PT.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Utter nonsense
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
As a United States citizen, you can purchase any legal products in any state in the union.
Sure, there are laws regarding shipping firearms purchased out of state to an in-state FFL. You can still purchase NY-compliant firearms outside of NY.
There are NO LAWS REGARDING OUT-OF-STATE AMMUNITION PURCHASES.
(Sorry for the caps, but people making up laws pisses me off.)
Sure, there are laws regarding shipping firearms purchased out of state to an in-state FFL. You can still purchase NY-compliant firearms outside of NY.
There are NO LAWS REGARDING OUT-OF-STATE AMMUNITION PURCHASES.
(Sorry for the caps, but people making up laws pisses me off.)
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Figured it was Haven based on your Ammo post but I don't know the shop, just reputation for ammo sales.
Thought it, didn't write it..
It's not a panacea, but when you read the Law and the process for handling/selling/keeper of Ammunition, a fuck you to the State would be getting your Club to make you (and any others) "keepers of Ammunition" and then you do not have to undergo a BGC to receive ammunition, and ostensibly distribute for use at the Club, or another route is if you plan to vendor at a Gun Show you'll need a Tax ID (temporary or permanent) then fill out the registration Form and now you're exempt...nothing says you have to sell X amount, only that you keep a log of what you DO sell and to whom.
We're not likely to repeal or lord help us "change" (for the better) the Laws under in current climate, but that doesn't mean we should quit of capitulate.
OP stated that he was denied on the ammo purchase..............not the gun.
NYSP Nics check, did that. WTF??
The ammo issue itself, involves interstate commerce, and no NICS check is required for ammo purchases in most states.
I have no receipts for any ammo I possess........and theoretically might be arrested for its possession for possibly buying it out of state...but that is not law yet.........that is a thorny issue for cops and DA's..........................legally.................
Possession is 9/10's of the law........and if you are not a felon and are legally able to own ammo............well there it is................case dismissed.....until you are red flagged for being a MAGA voter.
NYSP Nics check, did that. WTF??
The ammo issue itself, involves interstate commerce, and no NICS check is required for ammo purchases in most states.
I have no receipts for any ammo I possess........and theoretically might be arrested for its possession for possibly buying it out of state...but that is not law yet.........that is a thorny issue for cops and DA's..........................legally.................
Possession is 9/10's of the law........and if you are not a felon and are legally able to own ammo............well there it is................case dismissed.....until you are red flagged for being a MAGA voter.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Hang in their guys, next thing these thug elites will pass, is a back ground check for speech.
Once they get that passed, they will continue with the rest of the destruction of the constitution.
Once they get that passed, they will continue with the rest of the destruction of the constitution.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
I'm sure a LGS manager being in the position they're in darn well knows the truth of the matter.
That person just flat-out lied to you. That would really piss me off.
That person just flat-out lied to you. That would really piss me off.
You'd be sadly mistaken to not believe the "registration" database the State IS collecting on you won't be used for nefarious or acts of the State against you and your Family...what did the Nazi's say about "your safety"?
My comment about registering to become a handler sound preposterous until you start to think about it...I'm not pleased at all over going through a third part administered NICS check, but in the grand scheme having already complied with the States requirements for Handguns since 1988, it isn't like I'm off the radar, and with the Ammunition licenses you do not have to undergo the BGC (and fee) to buy what you want, and it's an unsatisfying work around...I didn't register ANY Guns when un_SAFE was passed, in retrospect perhaps I should have listed one or two and then I could have had them instead of divesting of them.
Maybe I'm missing something, or just plain wrong, either way someone will chime in if so.
There's already a FBI/DHS "check" on social media that at least one SCOTUS JustUS has said is completely acceptable.
When it happens, you'd better be ready and made peace with the permanent and devastating changes that will happen to your Life should you survive or be captured...shit sandwiches taste like shit whether your serving or being served.
I have seen police officers and retired military be denied when they went to purchase ammunition. Just last week a good friend of mine, 22 years in the US Army, bought a rifle, and had no problem passing the NICS check and then get denied when he went to purchase ammunition. It's bullshit, but as long as we have a Democrat for governor that is what we will have to deal with.
Then why the fuck would you even come online to ask about it? That's bullshit right there! This has nothing to do with your so called friend that works there, but the ownership that institutes such ridiculous bullshit to tell firearm owners the erroneous information in order to increase sales!
How does this affect your friend, or your friends employment? Or is it your friend that told you that bullshit?
Not going to name the store... Then you're just as complicit!
You're Fucking every single person behind you that goes there and they'll tell this bullshit too! Like not exposing a pedophile because you don't want to get that person in trouble! Fuck that... Expose these assholes for what they are! When their ammunition and maybe firearm sales drop like a rock, maybe, just maybe they'd learn the error of their ways! Otherwise, you're just enabling them!
My opinion, and I'm not sorry to express it!
Good Luck and Happy Trails!
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I e heard this time and time again so has to be by design and NYS doing an unofficial waiting period. Nothing else explains it.
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
It's officially called a NYS proctology exam.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Can someone explain the logic of doing ammunition background checks on people who have already passed federal background checks for their firearms?
thisIslandEarth
.357 mag
It's all quite logical: a deterrent, put LGS's out of business, take away more rights, incremental control. There IS an end game and we know what that is...