Bidens new rules on defining who is considered “engaged in the business” of dealing firearms.

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The Biden administration has finalized the largest expansion of gun-sales background checks since the advent of the federal check system in the 1990s, moving to close the “gun show loophole” and online sales that have avoided checks in the past.

The new rule being announced Thursday expands the definition of who is considered a firearms dealer and says every dealer must conduct a background check regardless of the sale venue. That means sales at gun shows or conducted over the internet must now be included.


It is not a universal background check, meaning some transactions such as gifts or occasional sales are still exempt. But administration officials said they expect the rule will cover tens of thousands of sales each year that currently escape background checks.
 
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It is still unclear.............

"Some 3.6% of trafficking cases involved online marketplace sales, 2.7% involved social media and 1% involved peer-to-peer apps."

This includes people who sell on GB............ buying and selling, even going thru FFL's...........NICS are done, but "profit" is being made.......... without being an FFL.

Sales on forums, going thru FFL's is illegal?

This STUDY means that the internet is being watched 24/7............. EVERYWHERE.
 
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And he did this, so called RULE, outside Congress...

Considering it impacts and effects a RIGHT, I would say it isn't law, so fuck you very much!

But how many will cower and comply!?!?

We don't live in an Oligarchy, and it isn't up to one man to make decisions that affect millions, we fought for our freedom from such bullshit a long time ago.

But again, the Liberal Agenda is to just do it, regardless of it's Constitutionality, and let the peons fight it out in the courts!

If this isn't a prime example of a self serving Gov't, I'm not sure what is...
 
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livingston said:
April 11, 2024

The Biden administration has finalized the largest expansion of gun-sales background checks since the advent of the federal check system in the 1990s, moving to close the “gun show loophole” and online sales that have avoided checks in the past.

The new rule being announced Thursday expands the definition of who is considered a firearms dealer and says every dealer must conduct a background check regardless of the sale venue. That means sales at gun shows or conducted over the internet must now be included.


It is not a universal background check, meaning some transactions such as gifts or occasional sales are still exempt. But administration officials said they expect the rule will cover tens of thousands of sales each year that currently escape background checks.
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Are they aware that only people holding an FFL are *allowed* to conduct background checks ?

And every sale conducted by an FFL no matter where *must* conduct one ?

So, what are they doing here ?
 
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spat said:
Are they aware that only people holding an FFL are *allowed* to conduct background checks ?

And every sale conducted by an FFL no matter where *must* conduct one ?

So, what are they doing here ?
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Trying to prevent face-to-face transfers by us plebs by claiming we are "in the business of selling guns" just for selling off a single gun we no longer use.
By claiming we have to have a background check it would mean we either have to go to a true FFL, which would ultimately help the .gov populate their database on that gun, or become FFLs ourselves which would REALLY populate their database.

It's a defacto registration scheme to give them more information for when they try to come and take them.
 
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This is for all states.........................it was authorized last year by Congress and signed into law...it is not constitutional.............. but there it is........

They want 4473's and NICS on every transfer/sale..like selling radium or plutonium...............
 
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Zerex said:
This is for all states.........................it was authorized last year by Congress and signed into law...it is not constitutional.............. but there it is........

They want 4473's and NICS on every transfer/sale..like selling radium or plutonium...............
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so where in the safer communities act does it say the ATF can write LAW ???

and how can ATF rule be passes last year if they just wrote it last week ..
 
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Zerex said:
This is for all states.........................it was authorized last year by Congress and signed into law...it is not constitutional.............. but there it is........

They want 4473's and NICS on every transfer/sale..like selling radium or plutonium...............
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Acronym Agency "Rules" are not LAW.

Let alone rules that inhibit, interfere or create hurdles in regard to exercising a Right.

Please post source reference to the law providing this new Requirement.

Bruen basically says otherwise as free transfer of firearms absent this process has been the norm in a majority of States since our founding... Historically speaking, the new Originalist Doctrine requires this be exhibited for it to be considered Constitutional!

Anyways, I'd love to see the LAW breaking this down or even giving this acronym agency this power.
 
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