SCOTUS rules on immunity
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Phazer
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Ummm...shouldn't this have been common sense?
If you're president, you cannot be personally prosecuted for enacting political policy even if it is egregious.
If you're president, and you deal drugs in your spare time, you get prosecuted for your crime that is not related to official duties.
kev74
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The commies are losing their shit. 
From what I have read, I do not think that I am fully happy about all of this. I think I need to read more and comprehend all that I am reading.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
6-3 with Jackson, Soto-my-ear and Kagan dissenting.
Had it been a Democrat who is the subject of the case it would’ve been 9-0.
Had it been a Democrat who is the subject of the case it would’ve been 9-0.
4WHLDRFTN
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Here we go
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Ay! There's the rub!
Future court cases will be waged to determine what are official vs unofficial presidential acts.
livingston
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“A Private Citizen Cannot Criminally Prosecute Anyone, Let Alone a Former President” – Clarence Thomas Questions Jack Smith’s Authority in Blistering Opinion on Immunity Ruling
Conservative Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas questioned Jack Smith’s authority as special counsel in his concurring opinion on the high court’s presidential immunity ruling.Clarence Thomas went off on Jack Smith in his concurring opinion and questioned his authority as a special counsel.
Clarence Thomas questioned Jack Smith’s authority because he was a private citizen when he was tapped as a special prosecutor.
“I write separately to highlight another way in which this prosecution may violate our constitutional structure. In this case, the Attorney General purported to appoint a private citizen as Special Counsel to prosecute a former President on behalf of the United States. But, I am not sure that any office for the Special Counsel has been “established by Law,” as the Constitution requires. Art. II, §2, cl. 2. By requiring that Congress create federal offices “by Law,” the Constitution imposes an important check against the President — he cannot create offices at his pleasure. If there is no law establishing the office that the Special Counsel occupies, then he cannot proceed with this prosecution. A private citizen cannot criminally prosecute anyone, let alone a former President,” Clarence Thomas said.
"A Private Citizen Cannot Criminally Prosecute Anyone, Let Alone a Former President" - Clarence Thomas Questions Jack Smith's Authority in Blistering Opinion on Immunity Ruling | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila
Conservative Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas questioned Jack Smith’s authority as special counsel in his concurring opinion on the high court’s presidential immunity ruling.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Saltwater60
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Screw their immunity. None of them should have it. They are all criminals. Look what the democrats get away with now just wait.
This is a pretty good recap:
theconservativetreehouse.com
Key takeaways:
"All of which means some of Trump’s conduct can still be prosecuted, but some cannot. And figuring out what can and cannot be is still to be determined.
The other crucial point is this: The court ruled not only that Trump can’t be prosecuted for certain conduct, but also that conduct for which he is immune can’t even be used as evidence against him. So, his interactions with Justice Department officials, for instance, can’t be used to establish a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election."
Supreme Court Rules President Trump Has Absolute Immunity for Official Actions Within Constitutional Authority - The Last Refuge
…“The President is not above the law. But Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution.”… In a 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court of the United Stated ruled that presidents have “absolute immunity” for official...
theconservativetreehouse.com
Key takeaways:
"All of which means some of Trump’s conduct can still be prosecuted, but some cannot. And figuring out what can and cannot be is still to be determined.
The other crucial point is this: The court ruled not only that Trump can’t be prosecuted for certain conduct, but also that conduct for which he is immune can’t even be used as evidence against him. So, his interactions with Justice Department officials, for instance, can’t be used to establish a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election."
GTN
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Sounds like the unsafe act. It’s legal but it might not be. We’ll decide as it suits us
Well, a lot of the commie freaks are calling for Biden to read this as his coronation and order up Seal Team Six or drone strike on Trump as an "official" act, so there's that fucked up reasoning.
Leave it to libs to use their insanity to find a silver lining.
I wonder if the FBI or SS will investigate any of these....?
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Without even looking at parties I agree. Nobody should be above the law. Nobody. This basically gives us kings on 4 year terms... until an "official action" is to suspend elections. Cool, so actually killing your opponents is now OK. Biden could have the CIA assassinate Trump and that's just fine now.
As to faith in government - Americans shouldn't have faith in government. They shouldn't take for granted that it's going to function properly or with their interests in mind. It's something you have to fight for day in and day out.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I lost faith in the government a long time ago.
The pandemic and the previous election, and what has been going on here in NY has exacerbated it.
It's amazing how patient the American public is too all of this. But there are a lot of stupid people out there too.
I lost faith in the government before I was even born. They threw me overboard 70 years ago.
People think the government killing America's "won't happen" . Oh really? Go ask the Branch Davidians about that. That type of thing just got *way* easier with this ruling.
Those three almost ALWAYS dissent from the rest of the Justices, they think it's their duty, their feelings that are more important than the Foundations on which our form of Government is built upon...one that's older than the three of those cunts combined.
kev74
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Just remember...
Quid pro Joe wasn't president when he bribed the Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son.
Not president= not immune.
Quid pro Joe wasn't president when he bribed the Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son.
Not president= not immune.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
"Interactions with DOJ officials = absolute immunity" So Biden weaponizing the DOJ against Trump is ok?
Jmac00
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I called it four months ago. While in office --- he's clear, as a private citizen---no immunity
BTW: The president has had immunity for the last 246 years. How is it, no one on the left has a clue whats happened
BTW: The president has had immunity for the last 246 years. How is it, no one on the left has a clue whats happened
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Phazer
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No. That is not a presidential power or official act. Ergo, criminal and prosecutable.
No. See above.
Absolutely.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Obama ordered a drone strike on an American citizen, I don't see them calling for him to be prosecuted for murder...Well, a lot of the commie freaks are calling for Biden to read this as his coronation and order up Seal Team Six or drone strike on Trump as an "official" act, so there's that fucked up reasoning.
Leave it to libs to use their insanity to find a silver lining.
I wonder if the FBI or SS will investigate any of these....?
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stokes
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Who was that?
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Without immunity for official acts, no one would be President. Anyone would be prosecuted after leaving office for a decision. Some people here need to calm down.
There wouldn't be a functioning country without it. The dissenting opinion is what we all need to focus on. If Joe Biden had any communications with the DOJ about the prosecution of Trump, that action would not qualify as official. They know it and that is why the left is going ballistic.
I can hear the shredders humming and servers being wiped right now.
There wouldn't be a functioning country without it. The dissenting opinion is what we all need to focus on. If Joe Biden had any communications with the DOJ about the prosecution of Trump, that action would not qualify as official. They know it and that is why the left is going ballistic.
I can hear the shredders humming and servers being wiped right now.
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Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - Wikipedia
4WHLDRFTN
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stokes
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Guy was a muzzie al queda scum, gotta give Obuma a pass on that one.Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - Wikipedia
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Obama didn't kill anyone for the good of the world. He had dirt or something.
stokes
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Didnt mean to infer that he did anything for anybody's good, just that the scumbag deserved to die, if he had other incentives to kill him, so be it.