Gabbard claims treasonous conspiracy

[JunkBoxFull]

Statue of limitations Have run out against Hillary I believe

Trump May Have Missed His Opportunity to Stick It to Hillary Clinton​

Former President Donald Trump might have missed the window to take down Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and others with a sweeping RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act) lawsuit.

Trump May Have Missed His Opportunity to Stick It to Hillary Clinton

Clinton's attorney's have filed a motion to dismiss the case against her, arguing that the statute of limitations has expired.

www.newsweek.com

He was never gonna lock her up.

 

[tgenec86]

Republican Expectation, Democratic defense:

Nothing is going to happen. I would LOVE to be proven wrong. I don't believe in our Government enough anymore to believe anything any of them say.

 

[Grimscale]

this could be a take down of a political party.

The Party won't end. Just the most corrupt members at key top position will change.
The question would be who takes over. someone like Musk? Someone like AOC or Bernie?
Or will those rank-and-file members who are tired of the bullshit kick the remaining anti-American shitbags out and clean up what's left?

Time will tell.... Assuming SOMEONE IS FUCKING ARRESTED!!!!

 

[Grimscale]

Could it be a bunch of manufactured BS drama to support an impending divorce in order to protect Obama's assets that Big Mike will take in divorce settlement?

Fruit of the poisoned tree should not be protectable via any means.
If BHO acquired stuff via crime, and that stuff is transferred to someone else BY WHATEVER MEANS, it should still be subject to confiscation. Bonus points if that other person is arrested for receiving crime related benefits (like they arrest people for having stolen goods, even if they legitimately bought them second-hand).

 

[prambo]

While I found the video of obama getting arrested funny trump better be careful about this. First, if he actually believes an arrest is possible that video would be used by the defense in any trial. Second, I've read that arresting obama will definitely trigger riots so he may want to tone down the rhetoric.

"They" can fucking bring it. Have all the "rent a mobs" they want. Burn down major cities.

Could it lead to civil war?

Possibly..........................

I've seen, read and heard so much fucking bullshit about this country since I was a kid, and it all boils down to bullshit, politics, money and power.

That's all it is.

So, at my age......

 

[spat]

Not sure that would happen and frankly with a single party system absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'm fine with two parties even if I disagree vehemently with one as long as they are both relatively sane - problem is they are not.

But.....

could this create an opportunity for Musk's new party to fill the void? I'm not sure that would ever happen with the current functional two party system, but if one is severely weakened? Wouldn't be first political party to die.

Would the tech boys back it to usher in an AI-driven technocracy? Is that where we are heading?

2 parties is basically baked in to the structure of our government.

The only way to end up with a single party system would be for the party to essentially replace the government the way it does in communist regimes.

If one of our parties dies, a new one will form to replace it within one or two election cycles. Either by a split of the other party, or formed from scratch.

Similarly, if we did get real a 3rd party, it would either die, or kill one of the existing parties within one or 2 election cycles.

Just the way the houses of congress are structured and the way the electoral college works, they basically guarantee one party in control and one in opposition and no room for anyone else at all times.

 

[tirwin1]

While I found the video of obama getting arrested funny trump better be careful about this. First, if he actually believes an arrest is possible that video would be used by the defense in any trial. Second, I've read that arresting obama will definitely trigger riots so he may want to tone down the rhetoric.

At first I thought the video was a mistake. Now I realize its purpose - to get the mainstream press to cover a story they would prefer to ignore completely. By talking about the "outrageousness" of the video they have to touch upon why the video was made. This forces the story into the liberal bubble that keeps democrats in line. Brilliant.

Getting media to cover Obamagate

Crazy Like A Fox Trump did it again with a fake but accurate video

donsurber.substack.com

 

[pjzwtl]

2 parties is basically baked in to the structure of our government.

The only way to end up with a single party system would be for the party to essentially replace the government the way it does in communist regimes.

If one of our parties dies, a new one will form to replace it within one or two election cycles. Either by a split of the other party, or formed from scratch.

Similarly, if we did get real a 3rd party, it would either die, or kill one of the existing parties within one or 2 election cycles.

Just the way the houses of congress are structured and the way the electoral college works, they basically guarantee one party in control and one in opposition and no room for anyone else at all times.

Once there was the Federalist Party and the Democratic-Republican party. It will recycle unless like you said we go full commie.

 

[lrick]

Fruit of the poisoned tree should not be protectable via any means.
If BHO acquired stuff via crime, and that stuff is transferred to someone else BY WHATEVER MEANS, it should still be subject to confiscation. Bonus points if that other person is arrested for receiving crime related benefits (like they arrest people for having stolen goods, even if they legitimately bought them second-hand).

Fruit of the poisonous tree applies to evidence obtained illegally, so I'm not sure how this applies.

The civil threat for those that created the hoax by the people that were damaged by it suing them would be for loss of income, defamation, punitive damages and maybe violation of civil rights. It wouldn't be for anything "acquired".

BHO didn't acquire anything tangible that could be easily proven. He didn't outright steal tangible assets from these people but his actions did cost them a whole lot of damage.

Divorce absolutely can be used as a strategy to shelter at least some portion of mutual assets.

Kellie Chauvin divorced Derek days after George Floyd's death.
AI response: The divorce was finalized on February 2, 2021, amid concerns that it was a strategic move to protect assets from potential lawsuits related to Floyd's death.

If the real reason for the divorce could be doubted as being an asset protection strategy, you would want to make it look legitimate. Manufactured drama in the public arena would help do just that.

 

[Defilade]

Government is nothing more than a Netflix series. Just don't know what to name it yet.

 

[lrick]

At first I thought the video was a mistake. Now I realize its purpose - to get the mainstream press to cover a story they would prefer to ignore completely. By talking about the "outrageousness" of the video they have to touch upon why the video was made. This forces the story into the liberal bubble that keeps democrats in line. Brilliant.

Getting media to cover Obamagate

Crazy Like A Fox Trump did it again with a fake but accurate video

donsurber.substack.com

That's a pretty simple reason for the video.

I don't know if it counts as 4D chess, but I think Trump's people have learned very well how to use TDS and the media to their advantage.

I'm lovin' it.

 

[prambo]

Government is nothing more than a Netflix series. Just don't know what to name it yet.

How about.....BOHICA?

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Hmmmm I read it here....not a THING on yahoo... Hmmmmmm Probably wont see light of day in any
"normal" media outlets..cnn MSNBC...even fox I bet.

 

[spat]

That's a pretty simple reason for the video.

I don't know if it counts as 4D chess, but I think Trump's people have learned very well how to use TDS and the media to their advantage.

I'm lovin' it.

Just wind them up and watch them go.

In the past presidents used to start wars to distract the media.

Trump just needs to rename a body of water and that's all they'll talk about for weeks.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Its all political theatrics, and their movie sucks dick.

 

[Bigfoot]

I think it's all fascinating. IMHO

We're living in crazy times.
History in real time, in a way.

 

[fresch]

Trump no to Epstein release.
Dimocrates must be released!
Trump ok here you go, stick it in your ass.
Only hope this is going on.

 

[Bigfoot]

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[livingston]

 

[Bigfoot]

I learned long ago not to get my hopes up when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I don't want to come into this thread and drop a turd in the punch bowl, but it is what it is. Nothing ever seems to happen. I'm just saying.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I learned long ago not to get my hopes up when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I don't want to come into this thread and drop a turd in the punch bowl, but it is what it is. Nothing ever seems to happen. I'm just saying.

And nothing is going to happen to them in the future either. They are not going to put themselves in prison. They`ve designed the system to protect themselves. Trump is just there to make a lot of noise, he loves the attention. Law & order, my ass. More like Lost & Odor.

 

[livingston]

 

[livingston]

I learned long ago not to get my hopes up when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I don't want to come into this thread and drop a turd in the punch bowl, but it is what it is. Nothing ever seems to happen. I'm just saying.

My friend ...
This is the biggest scandal in the history of this country. If we cannot get the results we need and deserve then I fear what will come next. Today in England people are thrown in jail for just posting a meme .... The invaders rape children and get a slap on the wrist. . In China Social scores are already in place. Think what an Obama will do with that ...
During the cultural revolution in China Madam Mao wife of Mao wielded tremendous power. Thousands were imprisoned and even killed. After the reforms and Mao's death She was put on trial and was imprisoned I believe for life. The entire country was aware of the trial. They did that as a step towards healing a nation.
Of course the country was ready for the reforms. This is what we need

 

[tirwin1]

If true, this is how they get around the statute of limitations. Biden campaign continued to spy on the trump campaign for the 2024 election. Ongoing criminal conspiracy.

 

[Defilade]

 

[Defilade]

 

[lrick]

Some people are like a guy with the winning lottery ticket too afraid to step out of his house to go claim it. I'll get into a car accident...I'll get mugged...I'll believe it when I see it in my bank account.

Well it ain't gonna happen by itself...Ed McMahon isn't showing up at the door with balloons and confetti. You have to take the RISK to step out and CLAIM it. And that starts with believing it may be possible, but you'll still double-check the numbers a dozen times. But some are so programmed, losing is wired into their DNA. Maybe it's why so many lottery winners find a way to screw it up.

Or even those just used to being poor that console themselves by bitching about it instead of taking steps to change it. Their bitching sustains them. Whoa is me. It's a binky they stick in their mouth whenever they get uncomfortable.

I've seen lots of those types over my life, so have you. They're the ones that ask for advice just to shoot down whatever you offer.

I imagine these types hanging out at the Green Dragon Tavern 250 years ago. I like to think they were told sit down and STFU.

Occasionally I like to read the Declaration of Independence. The whole thing. More than a statement of intent, it is a statement of prosecution of the king for offenses to the world making the case for their revolt.
[When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,… a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation].....[But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government…. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world].

If nothing else, and yet maybe the most important thing, our case is being stated in an electronic version of the public square and we are debating in an electronic version of the Green Dragon.

We are in a war and have been for some time, but some won't see it until it goes kinetic or see armies neatly lined up on a field of battle. And some won't act accordingly until it does. A whole shit-ton goes into war before it ever goes kinetic, but if all you've ever experienced is the kinetic maybe you lose sight of that. IMO this is where we are and have been for some time. Intel and propaganda. Politics and power. Planning and positioning.

But where ever we are, if it went kinetic, you certainly wouldn't want that guy cowering in the corner...we're all going to die!!

What I've seen throughout my life and others too, we've never seen this kind of advance. It's like we're taking territory but some refuse to hold it. I choose to shake off the programming and believe it may be possible. It took 3 percent to believe enough to stake their lives and change history. Whatever the consensus is today, I want to be counted in those that believed. IMO to do otherwise only aids the opposition. It certainly doesn't hurt them. I won't hold my breath but I also won't hyper-ventilate with continual nay-saying.

In no other institution is morale more important than in the military. Believing you can win is the first real step in winning. But yeah some of you would make war a real phucking bummer.