alistair
6.5 Creedmoor
Phoenicia Fish and Game Club in Mount Tremper, NY offering 18 Hr Gun Safety Class free of charge twice a month.
Phoenicia Fish and Game Association - PFG
Phoenicia Fish and Game Association - PFG
...and thousands of sheep paid, and complied...This is good. I commend them for doing this. When the 18 hour course was first mandated you saw all these "pro 2A" trainers out there saying what a horrible thing the course was and that it was imposing extra expenses on gun owners while at the same time they were charging $400 to $1000 for the course.
This is a double edged sword: I believe every Citizen of lawful age and status should be able to exercise the Rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.Need 18hrs of training in order to vote?
No?
Then this two tier hurdle placed in ordered to exercise your 2A Right is Unconstitutional!!!
Per Bruen!
Not sure why there isn't a mass non-compliance! And when denied your app, a class action suit should occur!
It is not right... And a bit ridiculous (18hrs)...
End of story!
Honestly not looking to bicker, but I'm curious what you mean by this?We need more like them, and not the likes of the profiteers that are proliferating in the 2A community. They are about 1.5 hours from NYC and are definitely worth the drive , until the NYC / LI / Westchester crowd finds out about them.
Other locations coming soon God bless these folk!!!
Where does it say in the Constitution that the document is only applicable to those who have come of age?This is a double edged sword: I believe every Citizen of lawful age and status should be able to exercise the Rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.
ALONG WITH THOSE RIGHTS, should be training:
There are some good people downstate but have you checked what they have been charging for the courses? $600-$750 after the new rules went into effect. It was only $150 prior to that in one place that I frequent.Honestly not looking to bicker, but I'm curious what you mean by this?
I'm certainly no fan of NYC myself, but there are still some righteous people living in the worst of places.
Good on them. Pretty part of the state in April and excellent trout fishing
Similarly, as a multi state saltwater fisherman, the saltwater fishing license, saltwater registry pigssnot The Shrub saddled us with.This is good. I commend them for doing this. When the 18 hour course was first mandated you saw all these "pro 2A" trainers out there saying what a horrible thing the course was and that it was imposing extra expenses on gun owners while at the same time they were charging $400 to $1000 for the course.
Where does it say in the Constitution that the document is only applicable to those who have come of age?
Status? What the hell is that? Lol
Those Rights, are not "Assigned" or established by the Constitution, they are "Recognized"! The founders were in great debate to codify rights for the very reasons they're bastardized today!
Again, putting it in words on paper is not the mechanism which establishes those Rights at all... They are there at Birth, God given, not given by Gov't!
No, anything lending to "should" while being assigned to a Right is no bueno!
Should a person only of good character be able to redress govt? Make a speech? Remain silent? Should a person only on Sundays after a full moon be able to exercise their 2nd amendment? Should only certain members of a distinct class of society be entitled to say the 4th or 5th amendments?
Should, is a terribly slippery slope!
What SHOULD happen is every Elected Representative be required to obtain Constitutional Training, especially on the BOR and when or ever, supporting any legislation in direct conflict with it, be immediately and unceremoniously removed from office and emergency elections held to fill the void! How's that for a SHOULD... Lmao!
Offering training as a voluntary act, paid for by the govt, because it wants to support those who exercise their 2A Right, awesome! But unfortunately, we all know what happens with gifts that ultimately have strings attached! So no thank you to that either!
Just (Gov't) stay the fuck out of my way in allowing me to seek and enjoy my freedoms and life! Uninhibited by a litany of regulation and codification of what I can or can't do... It's ridiculous any more!
Lastly, and again, post Bruen, I'm not sure how ANY training as a REQUIREMENT in order to exercise a Right survives scrutiny! Not sure how and or why this is not being challenged, period!
Have a great day!
Agreed.AgWhile I might applaud combating the commercial profiteering taking advantage of State Unconstitutional Requirements for this Instructional Training Course...
I still have to object as ANY participation is supporting the trolls of NY State!
There's absolutely zero chance this survives scrutiny should it be challenged based upon Bruen! Cannot understand why it has not been as it isn't any different than "Good Character" clauses... It's ridiculous...
Please show me where and what course is required for a citizen in NY State to Vote? How about to take the 5th if accused and on trial, do you require training before invoking your Right to not self incriminate?
It's a fucking joke, and a bad one! Worst yet, is the joke and laughing NY State happens upon every single person who takes this ridiculous bullshit...
If NY State was serious about it being for "Safety" reasons, it would be provided free as a service and not a "Requirement" in order to exercise a Right!
Done... That's it...
Fuck NY!