NO GUNS for trumps NRA speach.

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I personally think you loose credibility if you don't practice what you preach. If everyone in the room is a lawful citizen what are you scared of? Regardless of protocol, It will be used for against him and for the Anti agenda.
 
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The worthless NRA will ban guns at their own conventions, but I doubt it's them this time, nor is it Trump.

While I don't personally agree with it, this is almost certainly standard Secret Service protocol.
 
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Can't risk it with Potus. If you don't want to disarm, stay outside. Not a Constitutional issue.

I was feet away from Obama twice armed, can't say I didn't...
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I've got that beat. I was on stage with the Mythbusters (guys that people actually like) armed.

Imagine that, they still survive to this day.
 
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If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a Trump supporter with a gun. There have already been foiled attempts at shooting him. That would make it child's play. Seems like a smart move, but then again, I have no idea how something like that would be configured. I'm sure they would think about those things.
 
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Uzi said:
If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a Trump supporter with a gun. There have already been foiled attempts at shooting him. That would make it child's play. Seems like a smart move, but then again, I have no idea how something like that would be configured. I'm sure they would think about those things considering he's the only president to call out this kind of shit in my lifetime.
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This is dangerous territory however.

That argument is the same one the left uses.

So it's not a cut and dry issue. For me at least.
 
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Uzi said:
I don't understand what you mean?
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The line "If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a Trump supporter with a gun."

That's the left's argument for anything gun related.

"Carry in a movie theater!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a movie goer with a gun."

"Carry in church!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a church goer with a gun."

"Carry in public!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a normal civilian with a gun"

"Let your CCW permit be nationwide!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a legal CCWer with a gun."
 
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Darth said:
The line "If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a Trump supporter with a gun."

That's the left's argument for anything gun related.

"Carry in a movie theater!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a movie goer with a gun."

"Carry in church!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a church goer with a gun."

"Carry in public!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a normal civilian with a gun"

"Let your CCW permit be nationwide!? If they let civilians carry firearms, it would be easier than cake to have some mentally ill radical whatever pose as a legal CCWer with a gun."
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I don't think you're seeing the focus specifically though. It's not about staying conservative here. The left wouldn't pose any valid arguments if there actions would be executed by one expressing their own ideology with violence. They don't want the guns, and really, really want the president gone. Look at how violent they are right now and what they've done at rallies in at other events. My thought is based off of protecting the president, and rights of the second amendment that the left wants destroyed. They'd love to crash something like this. They will pay off whoever they need to for an event like that, it would be like a fuckin' gold mine for them, and allow another fake story to hit the news to promote more gun control measures. They would construe it to however they'd like. You don't have to attend it if you don't want to carry, (you're NOT forced to be there) but that would set up the whole thing for FAKE disasters, false flags etc by the left which is trending like crazy. It's not about trusting the people with firearms that are law abiding, it's about avoiding triggering some other problem by those that want gun rights disabled. There would never be an issue until you unknowingly invite violent disrupters posing and working for an opposing agenda.
 
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Uzi said:
I don't think you're seeing the focus specifically though. It's not about staying conservative here. The left wouldn't pose any valid arguments if there actions would be executed by one expressing their own ideology with violence. They don't want the guns, and really, really want the president gone. Look at how violent they are right now and what they've done at rallies in at other events. My thought is based off of protecting the president, and rights of the second amendment that the left wants destroyed. They'd love to crash something like this. They will pay off whoever they need to for an event like that, it would be like a fuckin' gold mine for them, and allow another fake story to hit the news to promote more gun control measures. They would construe it to however they'd like. You don't have to attend it if you don't want to carry, (you're NOT forced to be there) but that would set up the whole thing for FAKE disasters, false flags etc by the left which is trending like crazy. It's not about trusting the people with firearms that are law abiding, it's about avoiding triggering some other problem by those that want gun rights disabled. There would never be an issue until you unknowingly invite violent disrupters posing and working for an opposing agenda.
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You're right, you don't have to be there. It's not a constitutional nor legal issue.It's the second time people have argued that in this thread, but nobody originally even brought it up..

I disagree with the policy, because "it's for safety" is the exact policy of the left, no matter if it's me, you, or the POTUS. No one life is more valuable than another.

But this is certainly SOP for events like this. Not something Trump decided.
 
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Darth said:
I disagree with the policy, because "it's for safety" is the exact policy of the left, no matter if it's me, you, or the POTUS. No one life is more valuable than another.
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While you have been correct through out this thread on most points, I will have to disagree with this statement; I know many lives that are more important than others.
 
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While you have been correct through out this thread on most points, I will have to disagree with this statement; I know many lives that are more important than others.
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Not even going to get into the philosophical on this one.
 
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This is actually not Trump's call, this is a Secret Service call typical for all POTUS, good, bad or ugly. Whenever any POTUS would visit a Iraq, Afghanistan, all troops in the immediate area were not allowed weapons or ammo. So piss on the left in another failed fake news opportunity.
 
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NON Story! If the Media make hay with this just remember that the never said a word about disarming all the Federal Agents when Obama visited the NCTC.
You know the one they forgot to invite FOX News to attend?
The Secret Service is calling the shots not the NRA.
 
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All the Soldiers that were allowed in the room were disarmed when B.O. came to Afghanistan in 2014. No one (except those who the S.S. authorizes) is ever allowed to be armed near the President
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That's actually a little upsetting.
 
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If the @$$holes ruin a peaceful demonstration, they could ruin our President also...hence...no weapons...too great of an opportunity to enforce "gun control"
 
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