Watch those inscriptions
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I love the comments.
Edit- that article is a year and a half old.
Edit- that article is a year and a half old.
Unprofessional.
I have them on my personal guns. They are not and should never be allowed on mine or any other cop's duty weapons.
This is a result of cheap ass departments/municipalities that refuse to supply cops with their required equipment.
You'd be surprised how common it is for a cop to supply all of their equipment. The reason this is stupid is liability, not cost for the individual. Most would jump at the chance to buy their own equipment without restrictions. There's a valid reason why departments like mine don't allow it.
I have them on my personal guns. They are not and should never be allowed on mine or any other cop's duty weapons.
This is a result of cheap ass departments/municipalities that refuse to supply cops with their required equipment.
You'd be surprised how common it is for a cop to supply all of their equipment. The reason this is stupid is liability, not cost for the individual. Most would jump at the chance to buy their own equipment without restrictions. There's a valid reason why departments like mine don't allow it.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
when i get a AR , i'm getting on the dust cover ... " Covered My ASS " ..
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
WOW I love that dust cover , how ironic is that
First let me say .No body likes an attorney till you need one.
That being said they will manipulate every situation to there advantage weather just or Un-just. Why give them any material to use against you. My carry guns are BONE stock except for sights. they are NOT painted,decorated,modified .
Although I would love to decorate my cars,with the funny bumper sticker, hang the funny signs in my reloading area, get the sign for the front door."Never mind the dog beware of the owner"
I am just Plane vanilla , the question always will be. Are these the actions of a reasonable person, if you pooled any 12 of your neighbors would they say ,YES he acted reasonable.
maybe some day your postings on this forum or face book will be used against you in court.
its a terrible to think this way but it just may happen that way
I don't know anything about the officer or the case. But I do think every one should be asigned the items they need to conduct there job, And an officer should never have to supply his own rifle, BUG Or vest
First let me say .No body likes an attorney till you need one.
That being said they will manipulate every situation to there advantage weather just or Un-just. Why give them any material to use against you. My carry guns are BONE stock except for sights. they are NOT painted,decorated,modified .
Although I would love to decorate my cars,with the funny bumper sticker, hang the funny signs in my reloading area, get the sign for the front door."Never mind the dog beware of the owner"
I am just Plane vanilla , the question always will be. Are these the actions of a reasonable person, if you pooled any 12 of your neighbors would they say ,YES he acted reasonable.
maybe some day your postings on this forum or face book will be used against you in court.
its a terrible to think this way but it just may happen that way
I don't know anything about the officer or the case. But I do think every one should be asigned the items they need to conduct there job, And an officer should never have to supply his own rifle, BUG Or vest
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
An attorney to the court room.
Folks please look at except "A" the weapon this man was so infatuated,so enamured with it that he went out and purchased and installed this decoration with anti government slogans on it, A reasonable person would treat this as just a weapon, this man decorated his, this man idolized his, I could just imagine him and the folks like him going thru the gun shows looking for items to decorate and make there weapons better killing machines. ECT ECT I could go own but I am sure you heard attorney at work
Folks please look at except "A" the weapon this man was so infatuated,so enamured with it that he went out and purchased and installed this decoration with anti government slogans on it, A reasonable person would treat this as just a weapon, this man decorated his, this man idolized his, I could just imagine him and the folks like him going thru the gun shows looking for items to decorate and make there weapons better killing machines. ECT ECT I could go own but I am sure you heard attorney at work
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
My buddy is a LEO in FL.
He sent me pics of his duty Glock and AR. Both
Purchased and maintained by him. Reviewed and approved by department.
BS and yes, article is old. This is the same garbage put out there that if you carry hollow points, or hot loads, descriptive grips, engraved messages like Reaper, you'd be culpable too... It's just not so.
For every lawyers argument, there is a counter! The lawyer exclaimed that it was an agressive message? Really? Well, on rebuttal, seeing as the inscription was in the "inside" of the cover, only displayed if fired and casing ejected, the simple explanation would have been that in today's litigious society, the officer "KNEW" that if he had to ever fire the rifle, "HE" was fucked because he'd be going through exactly what he was in court for testifying! It's really that simple...
So then, the "fucked" part becomes insignificant and the discussion would turn to discovering the meaning and intent of "you're". And that does not automatically transfer to the reciever of the expelled round, but can also apply to the person operating the equipment.
For the matter, I don't think skulls, RIP, etc., markings on department approved, or issued equipment is smart, but unless against specific departmental policy, I don't have a problem with it. No more than if they wore Pro-2A underwear! It's only the lawyers that dog this shit up and make issues out of it in order to ellicit a hopeful favorable response for their case.
And honestly, even when you need a lawyer, you STILL don't like them!
For every lawyers argument, there is a counter! The lawyer exclaimed that it was an agressive message? Really? Well, on rebuttal, seeing as the inscription was in the "inside" of the cover, only displayed if fired and casing ejected, the simple explanation would have been that in today's litigious society, the officer "KNEW" that if he had to ever fire the rifle, "HE" was fucked because he'd be going through exactly what he was in court for testifying! It's really that simple...
So then, the "fucked" part becomes insignificant and the discussion would turn to discovering the meaning and intent of "you're". And that does not automatically transfer to the reciever of the expelled round, but can also apply to the person operating the equipment.
For the matter, I don't think skulls, RIP, etc., markings on department approved, or issued equipment is smart, but unless against specific departmental policy, I don't have a problem with it. No more than if they wore Pro-2A underwear! It's only the lawyers that dog this shit up and make issues out of it in order to ellicit a hopeful favorable response for their case.
And honestly, even when you need a lawyer, you STILL don't like them!
Doc8404
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As it's an old article.
And I didn't write it damn it. LOL.
At least we are discussing something other than gays and religion bashing.
And I didn't write it damn it. LOL.
At least we are discussing something other than gays and religion bashing.
I personally think public servants shouldn't use customized anything. There should be no variance in uniforms vehicles or weapons. I agree with airborne it's unprofessional.
For personally owned firearms I don't have a problem with customization. There has yet to be a case of a justified shooting where the conviction was swayed by the customization of the weapon. Has a prosecution attorney tried, yes many times it has yet to sway the jury. It's the prosecuting attorney's job to throw any and all shit at the wall to hope something sticks. So far they have been unsuccessful, or we would have heard about it. I can see why people don't want to take the risk but for me that's the least of my worries.
Let's look at a comparable scenario. You run over a Jewish kid that walked in the road because he was looking at his cell phone. Would you be surprised if the prosecuting attorney tried to argue because you were driving a Volkswagen it was racially motivated killing? I know I would be surprised and I don't think it would sway the jury either.
For personally owned firearms I don't have a problem with customization. There has yet to be a case of a justified shooting where the conviction was swayed by the customization of the weapon. Has a prosecution attorney tried, yes many times it has yet to sway the jury. It's the prosecuting attorney's job to throw any and all shit at the wall to hope something sticks. So far they have been unsuccessful, or we would have heard about it. I can see why people don't want to take the risk but for me that's the least of my worries.
Let's look at a comparable scenario. You run over a Jewish kid that walked in the road because he was looking at his cell phone. Would you be surprised if the prosecuting attorney tried to argue because you were driving a Volkswagen it was racially motivated killing? I know I would be surprised and I don't think it would sway the jury either.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I'm evil. That last paragraph made me LOL.
Nazi!
4excal
.338 Win Mag
Ain't nothing different than the 70s Vietnam shirts that said "Kill em all and let god sort them out" or the paintings of scary smile faces ready to destroy you on those bigass bombs in your military today..
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
Ok do you really think this is a comparable senario ?
"Let's look at a comparable scenario. You run over a Jewish kid that walked in the road because he was looking at his cell phone. Would you be surprised if the prosecuting attorney tried to argue because you were driving a Volkswagen it was racially motivated killing? I know I would be surprised and I don't think it would sway the jury either."
I would first have to ask why the Jewish kid was looking at his phone , and then I would be asking was the Volkswagen traveling in a western direction, or a south western direction. if it was heading east well thats an entirely different story there
"Let's look at a comparable scenario. You run over a Jewish kid that walked in the road because he was looking at his cell phone. Would you be surprised if the prosecuting attorney tried to argue because you were driving a Volkswagen it was racially motivated killing? I know I would be surprised and I don't think it would sway the jury either."
I would first have to ask why the Jewish kid was looking at his phone , and then I would be asking was the Volkswagen traveling in a western direction, or a south western direction. if it was heading east well thats an entirely different story there
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
I did nazi that coming!
Yes I do think they are comparable. The attorney's will throw any and all crap at the wall trying to make you look evil. What if you had a German flag on your Volkswagen does that make it worse?
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
Serious response time: Oh yes indeed. Especially when you use a firearm in self-defense.
Are you wearing a "Punisher" shirt or have a Punisher imprint on your handgun? Do you use factory loads or hand loads? It could be brought up that you are making the bullets "extra lethal" by handloading. (I know, rolleyes)
Massad Ayoob and others have gone into detail about this.
Oh yes they have but they have also admitted that there isn't one case of this actually happening. It's all speculation at this point and the "safest legal option" is everything you pointed out above. If this was such a slam dunk for the prosecution then we would have a case to point out already. The good/bad part is we will have a test case soon enough because customization of carry guns is become more and more popular.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
On the stock of my '16 back in the 60's, I had 'THIS MACHINE KILLS COMMIES'. Can I lose my citizenship, what's the statute of limitations on free speech?
Robin
Hopefully they ban them from customizing.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
An all-stock rifle? Speaking of commies...
Uzi
.308 Win
This is old news from March 17, 2016 and already posted.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This is exactly what some of us wrote about a while ago! Don't engrave things like "Widow maker" on your concealed carry pistol.
Duke
.357 mag
Maybe "Smile Wait for the Flash "wouldn't fit...
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
so what would the lawyers talk about if he had inscribed "love all -- serve all" on the inside of his dust cover.
or
God loves everyone
or
Please Mr. Criminal, don't kill me
or
God loves everyone
or
Please Mr. Criminal, don't kill me
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Watch it Doc.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I'd put, "Cuomo Fanboy" on my dust cover. That way I'll ensure my chances of an acquittal.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Ok
We needed some discussion other than gays or religion. So here it is.
Please start a gun-related thread.