.... and thousands of Americans going abroad to get medical procedures too expensive or not available in the U.S. Also many drugs that are available in Europe, but not in the U.S. I actually know people first hand who done this, never met a Canadian that came here for medical treatment. This bullshit is spread by Insurance companies.
Now that Trump's betrayed us on Immigration....
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.... and thousands of Americans going abroad to get medical procedures too expensive or not available in the U.S. Also many drugs that are available in Europe, but not in the U.S. I actually know people first hand who done this, never met a Canadian that came here for medical treatment. This bullshit is spread by Insurance companies.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So you know all Canadians?
What???
I'm amazed how many people by into the media mind melding...
Trump has no support from any of the entrenched political machine, either side! And there's people who think he might fix what Barack Hussein Obama took 8 years to do in just a few months?
Get a grip with reality! Don't look at Trump, look at the asshole Republicans infighting and squandering their majority control... And that's not Trump, sorry!
Fact is we are well better off with him, than without. Now take a deep breath and relax... As for DACA, the SCOTUS stated clearly the only real solution if legislative, and that means deal, and quite frankly, those kids are gonna stay, no matter what you think. The others, adults, well, that's another story, but who really cares. Trump being President has stopped the flood at the borders and has every fucking illegal shitting their pants. Now if that's not an improvement over Obama's Camelot, where the borders are wide open, I don't know what is...
But judging Trump over 8 months is infantile and moronic and exactly what "they" want you to think/do!
I'm amazed how many people by into the media mind melding...
Trump has no support from any of the entrenched political machine, either side! And there's people who think he might fix what Barack Hussein Obama took 8 years to do in just a few months?
Get a grip with reality! Don't look at Trump, look at the asshole Republicans infighting and squandering their majority control... And that's not Trump, sorry!
Fact is we are well better off with him, than without. Now take a deep breath and relax... As for DACA, the SCOTUS stated clearly the only real solution if legislative, and that means deal, and quite frankly, those kids are gonna stay, no matter what you think. The others, adults, well, that's another story, but who really cares. Trump being President has stopped the flood at the borders and has every fucking illegal shitting their pants. Now if that's not an improvement over Obama's Camelot, where the borders are wide open, I don't know what is...
But judging Trump over 8 months is infantile and moronic and exactly what "they" want you to think/do!
I spent many hours for 5 years in one of the top cancer treatment centers in the country during my father's fight with cancer. Met people from all over U.S., never met a Canadian. It also doesn't make any sense they would come here where healthcare is much more expensive rather then other countries where it's cheaper.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And your hospital was the only one they go to? Do a quick Google search. Even Canadian sites say that they come here.
Google space alien sightings. Plenty of material there, so I guess it must be so.
This is why we have PR companies, who make money blowing smoke up our asses.
Why would Canadians come here, where they will have to shell out a lot more money?
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Seems nobody will convince anyone regarding the Canadian side of universal healthcare. Let's move it across the puddle. I know you've all heard of Britain's Charlie Gard. Poor little guy was absolutely a victim of universal healthcare.
The British government dictated that Charlie's parents weren't allowed to leave the country to pay for treatments on their own dime. WTF!!!
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Just a thought... Trump makes a deal. DACA becomes the law of the land and the wall gets built. All the former illegals (or 75% or 50% or 20%) become Trump supporters in gratitude for legislatively stabilizing their families and futures, and vote Republican forever, denying the dems what they've been selling our country out for for the last 16 years. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Not likely, but an amusing thought.
Not likely, but an amusing thought.
The problem isn't "only" 690,000 "dreamers" but the fact that once they become citizens then they can bring the rest of their families in, aka chain migration.
Mexicans average 6.7 children per family, other immigrants 3+... established Americans less than 2.
So within ten years we get at least 6-7 million from this, probably a lot more. Plus it opens the doors for the rest of the illegals staying.
And with that, near permanent Democrat party control forever.
This is why immigration is the most important issue and why Trump won the election (before cucking so hard).
Mexicans average 6.7 children per family, other immigrants 3+... established Americans less than 2.
So within ten years we get at least 6-7 million from this, probably a lot more. Plus it opens the doors for the rest of the illegals staying.
And with that, near permanent Democrat party control forever.
This is why immigration is the most important issue and why Trump won the election (before cucking so hard).
GuyMontag
.44 mag
Mosinitis read the Zeliotis case, there's plenty of nightmares if you look into the issue.
For most Canucks, rationing doesn't impact quality of care, but if you're in need of care NOW, good luck.
The Canadian system depends on the fact that 90+% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border.
Those Canucks who CAN'T sit idly for months in pain waiting for a surgical date, go the US and pay for treatment.
That's the dirty little secret about their entire system, and a not very well kept one in all reality.
Without the US acting as their safety valve, their system falls apart.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Well, when a former Canadian member of parliament comes to the U.S. for her surgery, that certainly says volumes:
Former MP Belinda Stronach pushes for better access to breast cancer care in Canada
Belinda Stronach, former MP and CEO of Magna International, travelled to California for a mastectomy and reconstructive breast surgery.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This has historically never, ever, happened. Even when Reagan and Bush supported amnesty, they received only paltry votes from the Hispanic voting bloc.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I don't expect it to happen, but would be tickled pink if it did.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Let's move on shall we?
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
I don't want to get into whether they should be here, or not, but I agree with others that we're never going to kick them all out. Let's hope citizenship isn't on the table, though. Letting them stay doesn't automatically give them full rights of citizenship, it merely makes it legal for them to be here.
When Reagan was duped into Amnesty, the ideal was that only 300,000 "vital" farmworkers would get in because otherwise farming would collapse....
Instead 1.3 million claimed to be farm workers even though most couldn't answer simple farming questions (Do apples grow on trees or bushes?) They in turn imported their families including aunts, uncles, and cousins.... about six million.
Note that the lobbies have been claiming there are "only" 11m illegals... but they've been using the same number since the early 1990s. Sane people believe it is more likely 30-40 million.
The politicians never fulfilled their promises to enhance border security or to prosecute Americans who hire illegals. In fact their servants are likely illegals.
Meanwhile we have 45 million Dindus sitting on porches drinking malt liquor and liberating Nikes when there is a disaster. They'd make shitty farm workers compared to hard working Hispanics but at least we'd be seeing some benefits if we cleared out the inner cities and made them work for a change.
Anyway, together Dindus, Hispanics, Fags and Womyn are an insurmountable block of Democrat votes that promise permanent single party rule, loss of human rights, and Brazilian style socialism. Our best and brightest young people will emigrate to China for freedom.
As the situation gets more extreme, I can understand why people will turn to fascism and ethnic cleansing. Do you honestly believe there can be a good outcome otherwise? It's them or us, they can not be reasoned with or brought around to righteous thinking.
Instead 1.3 million claimed to be farm workers even though most couldn't answer simple farming questions (Do apples grow on trees or bushes?) They in turn imported their families including aunts, uncles, and cousins.... about six million.
Note that the lobbies have been claiming there are "only" 11m illegals... but they've been using the same number since the early 1990s. Sane people believe it is more likely 30-40 million.
The politicians never fulfilled their promises to enhance border security or to prosecute Americans who hire illegals. In fact their servants are likely illegals.
Meanwhile we have 45 million Dindus sitting on porches drinking malt liquor and liberating Nikes when there is a disaster. They'd make shitty farm workers compared to hard working Hispanics but at least we'd be seeing some benefits if we cleared out the inner cities and made them work for a change.
Anyway, together Dindus, Hispanics, Fags and Womyn are an insurmountable block of Democrat votes that promise permanent single party rule, loss of human rights, and Brazilian style socialism. Our best and brightest young people will emigrate to China for freedom.
As the situation gets more extreme, I can understand why people will turn to fascism and ethnic cleansing. Do you honestly believe there can be a good outcome otherwise? It's them or us, they can not be reasoned with or brought around to righteous thinking.
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MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Man am I glad Thursdays and Friday news cycle is over! Inhale.
