Who still has to renew their pistol permit

[2WheelGnnr]

I and my wife have not done it yet.... new years eve.......11:50pm hehehehe

Just wondering. does anyone plan to not renew it at all??!! you defiant ba$tard$

 

[kev74]

I'm waiting till the last minute.

I'll be mailing a paper copy, certified, return receipt.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

oooh not a bad idea....send paper not online....I think we will do that too.....

 

[Deplorable Me]

I will be preparing 2017 taxes first and with as much enthusiasm. With a little luck a rogue meteor will hit Albany 12/31.

Besides, I plan on adding/removing a few handguns as late as next January. I want the records to be as complete as possible.

 

[soylentBlue]

I still have not received any written notification that I must do so. I wonder how many people out there don't even know that they have to?

 

[masterswimmer]

I and my wife have not done it yet.... new years eve.......11:50pm hehehehe

Just wondering. does anyone plan to not renew it at all??!! you defiant ba$tard$

The deadline is not, I repeat NOT 12/31/17.

The deadline to file is 1/31/18.

Use paper to file by 1/30/18 with a return receipt requested. Don't file online.

 

[Koz]

Yeah, no, but it's on my "to do" list. So far I'm down to posting "FUac" on the NY Gun Forum.

FUac

 

[2WheelGnnr]

I still have not received any written notification that I must do so. I wonder how many people out there don't even know that they have to?

really......wonder how thats gonna fly for people that dont follow this "stuff" like we do?? Joe Citizen that got his permit in 1970 and has been living his/her life and doesnt know. but with the news article and tv article im sure they have heard of it or know. BUT I would NOT consider that Proper notification by any means!!!!!!!

 

[kev74]

Keep in mind, if you file online you're doing FUAC's secretarial work for him.

Bury the f-ers in paper!

 

[eagleridge357]

I'm not renewing mine because I have moved and I am living in TX permanently. I gave up on NY state and it's asshole politicians. You who are still here are suckers. You say you want to leave, but you are still here. If you stay in NY state, you should not complain, because you have chosen to stay.

 

[MikeyCNY]

I'm not renewing mine because I have moved and I am living in TX permanently. I gave up on NY state and it's asshole politicians. You who are still here are suckers. You say you want to leave, but you are still here. If you stay in NY state, you should not complain, because you have chosen to stay.

Yes, let me just quit my stable (state) job, leave my friends, family and fiance behind. Believe me, I've considered it. (well, before the fiance)

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm not renewing mine because I have moved and I am living in TX permanently. I gave up on NY state and it's asshole politicians. You who are still here are suckers. You say you want to leave, but you are still here. If you stay in NY state, you should not complain, because you have chosen to stay.

Yes. Let me lose the pension on the job I've been at for the last 16 years and instead wait tables or work in Walmart in Texas as a 42 year old. Things aren't always black and white you know and careers aren't always transferable.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

yep same here...we are trying to make sooner than later efforts to get south like carolinas but not just yet............

 

[Joe Blow]

I still have not received any written notification that I must do so. I wonder how many people out there don't even know that they have to?

If you fall under the "I've had my permit for five years" rule you were "supposed to have received notification by mail.

 

[Joe Blow]

The deadline is not, I repeat NOT 12/31/17.

The deadline to file is 1/31/18.

Use paper to file by 1/30/18 with a return receipt requested. Don't file online.

I re-certified months ago. Everyone thinks it's a new database and that they're capturing more information. That's bullshit... Your local permitting authority and the NYSP already have all your handgun information. The exercise of this recertification process is so that the NYSP can get their database up to date. They already have this information in that FFL's submit form(s) P-12 for every handgun transaction that takes place in this state. Recertifications make it easier for theNYSP to get their database up to date. I certified right away. Therefore any of my new purchases / transactions will fall on them to get their shit together.
FUAC!

 

[tapper3]

Just an FYI................

I don't know how it works with a paper recertification but if you do it online there is a link to check the status of the process. It will either be "your recertification is being processed" or "your next recertification is xx/xx/xxxx".

Now, it is possible that this link can be used with paper filings, too. I don't know. It seems like it should because all the status check asks for is last name, DOB, drivers license number, last 4 digits of your SS number and that information would have been inputted by someone off of your paper form. But, then again, this is a NYS.gov operation so who knows?

On another note.................

I have seen the statements from folks on here for years now that they will wait until the last minute and bury the NYSP in a flood of filings. Or put the form in a box full of packing peanuts and mail it. Or whatever. I fully understand the sentiment and anger but have to, respectfully, disagree with that approach. As Jim Malone said in The Untouchables, "You're mucking with the G here, pal."

It may not be important to you to know that your recertification has been processed and you are good to go for another 5 years. That information was very important to me. And I have better things to do with my time than to go to battle with the system - especially if there is a time constraint issue. I want smooth and easy - no ripples on my pond.

I can easily see people's paper forms being lost in the mail or otherwise misplaced and their county judge getting a notice from the NYSP next February that they never recertified.

And we all know the next step after that is a notice from the judge to surrender the permit and turn in the guns. And then comes the hassle of trying to get it all straightened out and getting the property back.

When it comes my permit and my guns I just couldn't see taking a chance on the crap going south just so I could "stick it to the man". Yes, I know, the permit holder's obligation is complete when the form is mailed in and you may have a receipt from the Post Office showing that you did all that.

But the judge will not know that. All he will know is the NYSP says Joe Sixpack was supposed to recertify and there is no record of Joe doing so. And then the judge will simply follow the statute and revoke your permit. It's not going to bother the judge one bit that you have no permit and NO guns while you try to straighten out someone else's screw up. Will it bother you?

 

[Cooolone]

People are crazy and I guess as we get closer to the witching hour these threads will be popping up 10X a day instead of people using the search function to find the already existing threads on the subject... But NOoooooooo!

And really... Get with the program!

Did the NYSP send by mail with signature proof any application or form? Not to my knowledge... So the "I Never Received" the form is a perfectly viable excuse. Question will then be that you had an obligation under the new law, ie, Safe Act to recertify!

That said, if you recertify a minute earlier than your are required to, you're a damned fool, plain and simple!!! There is no requirement to do so... If you owe taxes, do you pay Feb 1st? Just lol... How about renew your vehicle registration 6 months early? Maybe pay a speeding ticket before you get one!?

Send it, registered mail, return receipt, signature required so you have a record of sending the form, send it post marked midnight on the last day... I will be checking if the main NYC PO is open that late on Jan 30... Just curious, and if so, and I decide to recertify, that's how I'm gonna do it. Screw them, screw Cuomo and his comrades who enacted this illegal law.

OK, waiting for the next thread on this SAME subject... So I can post the same thing

 

[timboy]

I received my renewal and my father who lives in the same county did not,I have yet to fill mine out.

 

[kev74]

Just an FYI................

I don't know how it works with a paper recertification but if you do it online there is a link to check the status of the process. It will either be "your recertification is being processed" or "your next recertification is xx/xx/xxxx".

Now, it is possible that this link can be used with paper filings, too. I don't know. It seems like it should because all the status check asks for is last name, DOB, drivers license number, last 4 digits of your SS number and that information would have been inputted by someone off of your paper form. But, then again, this is a NYS.gov operation so who knows?

On another note.................

I have seen the statements from folks on here for years now that they will wait until the last minute and bury the NYSP in a flood of filings. Or put the form in a box full of packing peanuts and mail it. Or whatever. I fully understand the sentiment and anger but have to, respectfully, disagree with that approach. As Jim Malone said in The Untouchables, "You're mucking with the G here, pal."

It may not be important to you to know that your recertification has been processed and you are good to go for another 5 years. That information was very important to me. And I have better things to do with my time than to go to battle with the system - especially if there is a time constraint issue. I want smooth and easy - no ripples on my pond.

I can easily see people's paper forms being lost in the mail or otherwise misplaced and their county judge getting a notice from the NYSP next February that they never recertified.

And we all know the next step after that is a notice from the judge to surrender the permit and turn in the guns. And then comes the hassle of trying to get it all straightened out and getting the property back.

When it comes my permit and my guns I just couldn't see taking a chance on the crap going south just so I could "stick it to the man". Yes, I know, the permit holder's obligation is complete when the form is mailed in and you may have a receipt from the Post Office showing that you did all that.

But the judge will not know that. All he will know is the NYSP says Joe Sixpack was supposed to recertify and there is no record of Joe doing so. And then the judge will simply follow the statute and revoke your permit. It's not going to bother the judge one bit that you have no permit and NO guns while you try to straighten out someone else's screw up. Will it bother you?

I can understand you don't want to deal with the hassle and just wanted it done.

I can't in good conscience make this bull shit easier on the state than it can be. The whole law was designed to make me and you jump through stupid hoops to exercise our rights. It has no effect on criminals. It has no effect on insane people. Just us.

In the past, I've picked fights I knew I wasn't going to win because it was the right thing to do. This is no different.

 

[HEX]

I received the notification way back on January 3rd. (I have it right here and it's dated). I do recall being surprised at having received it long before a lot of other people seemed to.

Initially I'd planned to put it off intentionally and do the paper form at the last minute and all that , but more recently I just want to get it over with I guess.
It keeps slipping my mind, and I figure I'd better just get it done so that I don't forget to do it when it matters and wind up getting screwed. I can completely see myself doing that.

 

[Cavalry]

My wife got her letter, but I have not gotten mine. Figure that out, same last name, same address.

Juvenile or not I have already printed my renewal form out since there are no print instructions on the PDF...on my 42" wide format printer. Its quite "large" and makes me giggle in an otherwise bullshit situation. I will be mailing it out with tracking on the last permissible day.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'm not renewing mine because I have moved and I am living in TX permanently. I gave up on NY state and it's asshole politicians. You who are still here are suckers. You say you want to leave, but you are still here. If you stay in NY state, you should not complain, because you have chosen to stay.

Well, you've tried to explain your point of view in your usual communicative way. I'll give you this, at least you're consistent lol. BTW, I totally forgot about the permit thing until I saw this thread.

 

[redtail]

I received the notification way back on January 3rd. (I have it right here and it's dated). I do recall being surprised at having received it long before a lot of other people seemed to.

Initially I'd planned to put it off intentionally and do the paper form at the last minute and all that , but more recently I just want to get it over with I guess.
It keeps slipping my mind, and I figure I'd better just get it done so that I don't forget to do it when it matters and wind up getting screwed. I can completely see myself doing that.

Same here, including the date received.

 

[thegatman]

What pistols?

 

[Acer-m14]

can we mail it in a box via Fedx or UPS COD ....

 

[masterswimmer]

I received the notification way back on January 3rd. (I have it right here and it's dated). I do recall being surprised at having received it long before a lot of other people seemed to.

Initially I'd planned to put it off intentionally and do the paper form at the last minute and all that , but more recently I just want to get it over with I guess.
It keeps slipping my mind, and I figure I'd better just get it done so that I don't forget to do it when it matters and wind up getting screwed. I can completely see myself doing that.

Forget to do it? You're a moderator here. You read, monitor and moderate every thread on this, a gun forum, every day. I'm going to wager any amount you'd like that this will not under any circumstance be the last thread on this topic (assuming the site remains viable and ongoing). I'm quite sure you'll be reminded again, and again, and again.

Stay the course!

 

[Acer-m14]

@HEX .. you still on a flip phone LOL .. get the phone out and set a reminder and use the nuke alarm sound lol ..

 

[BerettaGuy]

The exercise of this recertification process is so that the NYSP can get their database up to date.
FUAC!

Here is the real issue. There are 62 counties in the State. Each County is in charge of issuing State Pistol Licenses. These 62 counties have been doing this for over 100 years. All that information on who has what in the state has been in boxes in the basements of the 62 County Halls. Some handwritten, some typed and until recently some computerized. There are still permit holders that have not recieved a letter, some arrived last month. Dead people are getting letters and the lucky that moved out of state are getting letters. The records are a complete abysmal mess.

Now go back to the passage of NY SAFE.
Remember Cuomo saying confiscation is an option?
He was lying.
There was no way they could confiscate because they may have had all of this info but it was useless as it was all on paper. So the Re-Certification was created to do exactly what you said;

The exercise of this recertification process is so that the NYSP can get their database up to date.

Not only will they finally have a database of who has what, but they want US TO DO THEIR WORK FOR THEM AN REGURGITATE OUR INFO TO THEM ONLINE.
You input it on line, it is a matter of a copy and paste and they have your info in their database.
Sending it in as close to the deadline and filled out on paper does two things that shout FUAC,
A) It fulfills your requirement. You are good law abiding citizen.
B) the gun squad now has to hire and pay someone to read and type in all your info.
Guess what, TYPO'S HAPPEN so I would definitely keep a copy of what you sent in. Might come in handy in a law suit.

By the end of 2018 they will have everything they need to fulfill Cuomo's dream of confiscation. Not to mention when a license plate reader passes you the operator will know if you are a pistol owner. (for the officers safety donchknow)

If you re-register online you are doing their work for them and might as well be french kissing Andrew Cuomo.

Almost forgot. The other purpose is to tie your info to the Death Certificate so your guns don't end up on the street

 

[Jmac00]

Well, you've tried to explain your point of view in your usual communicative way. I'll give you this, at least you're consistent lol. BTW, I totally forgot about the permit thing until I saw this thread.

sadly, me too. Im snail mailing it on Jan 25th, Certified, registered, return receipt. I may even put a couple staples in it, just to fuck with them

 

[BerettaGuy]

Also currently they don't have a clue about co registrations. This will "fix" that too.