Ok, you trust the FBI and the Vegas Police.
Surprised you'd admit that.
The Government would never lie.
Eyewitness Survivors of Mandalay Bay are being MURDERED
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Ok, you trust the FBI and the Vegas Police.
Surprised you'd admit that.
The Government would never lie.
Honestly, Freddy, I've no problem with your theories.
Even the one that the FBI is honest.
This would be a boring Forum if everyone agreed on everything.
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Some people are completely ignorant of covert operations .During the Vietnam war, special teams were sent far into north Vietnam using Communist weapons and wiped out small villages, killing everybody in the village then nailed North Vietnamese propagandas and warnings to their heads saying this is what happens to people who help Americans . The idea behind these psyops was to enrage the locals against the Communists, and rally people to the South.
Another exsample is Nayirah Kuwaiti, the girl who swore before congress that Iraqi soldiers were killing babies in Kuwait Later proven to be a complete fabrication . this operation was conducted against the American people to gain support for war in Iraq in 91
The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by an American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda
In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.
The surprise attack on Pearl harbor was no surprise at all , the US and British placed an oil embargo on an Island country that had no natural oil reserves, the US knew that Japan had no other option than to break the embargo At some point And attack US naval forces.
Psyop operations have been around since people could organize Genghis khan used them in the 12th Century by demanding surrender of a small city or town or compete annihilation of every living thing in the city . When the town refused he carried out his threat and made sure everybody knew about it. the next town he went to he only asked for taxes and aid and that none of his soldiers would enter their city and their safety would be guaranteed. or complete annihilation , as a result , most of the territory he won, there was never an arrow fired.
The results of sandy hook was that citizens rights of NYS were infringed upon , In other words, the governor took advantage of a tragedy to gain more power. President Obama tried as well and failed . They took advantage of the psychological and emotional effect of the shooting to restrict the rights of its citizens.
Operation fast and furious , was used to try to impose strict gun laws in the Border states making the claim that cartels were purchasing guns in the US and using them in Mexico It was later confirmed that most of the weapons were coming from central American countries like Nicaragua, San Salvador , Guatemala, Columbia where military weapons are cheap and abundant.
We have a media that undeniably controlled and filtered by elements in the government and possibly industries and businesses with global interest's .
the media has lied to the people over an over again and can no longer be taken at its word . The conjunction of the two gives rise to suspicion whenever peoples rights are involved or a major policy change like NAFTA or Obama care is pushed.
The truth is, people lie, people are corrupt, and immoral , In light of these facts, I am suspicious of events which can shape political policy's due to past actions demonstrating it to be true.
“it is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” Ben Franklin.
If we can't think for ourselves, if we're unwilling to question authority, then we're just putty in the hands of those in power.-Carl Sagan
Another exsample is Nayirah Kuwaiti, the girl who swore before congress that Iraqi soldiers were killing babies in Kuwait Later proven to be a complete fabrication . this operation was conducted against the American people to gain support for war in Iraq in 91
The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by an American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda
In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.
The surprise attack on Pearl harbor was no surprise at all , the US and British placed an oil embargo on an Island country that had no natural oil reserves, the US knew that Japan had no other option than to break the embargo At some point And attack US naval forces.
Psyop operations have been around since people could organize Genghis khan used them in the 12th Century by demanding surrender of a small city or town or compete annihilation of every living thing in the city . When the town refused he carried out his threat and made sure everybody knew about it. the next town he went to he only asked for taxes and aid and that none of his soldiers would enter their city and their safety would be guaranteed. or complete annihilation , as a result , most of the territory he won, there was never an arrow fired.
The results of sandy hook was that citizens rights of NYS were infringed upon , In other words, the governor took advantage of a tragedy to gain more power. President Obama tried as well and failed . They took advantage of the psychological and emotional effect of the shooting to restrict the rights of its citizens.
Operation fast and furious , was used to try to impose strict gun laws in the Border states making the claim that cartels were purchasing guns in the US and using them in Mexico It was later confirmed that most of the weapons were coming from central American countries like Nicaragua, San Salvador , Guatemala, Columbia where military weapons are cheap and abundant.
We have a media that undeniably controlled and filtered by elements in the government and possibly industries and businesses with global interest's .
the media has lied to the people over an over again and can no longer be taken at its word . The conjunction of the two gives rise to suspicion whenever peoples rights are involved or a major policy change like NAFTA or Obama care is pushed.
The truth is, people lie, people are corrupt, and immoral , In light of these facts, I am suspicious of events which can shape political policy's due to past actions demonstrating it to be true.
“it is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” Ben Franklin.
If we can't think for ourselves, if we're unwilling to question authority, then we're just putty in the hands of those in power.-Carl Sagan
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freddy
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Sometimes the simple explanation is actually close to the truth. Sometimes not. Granted your government has lied to you repeatedly, again and again, over and over. But maybe we will discover the LV shooting was just a dude going out in a blaze of heroic glory (as he may have seen it).
You're right about that.
What kind of lame-ass ugly MF shit-for-brains Muslim is Sayfullo Saipov anyhow ?
Couldn't he just wait for the next GUN SHOW to buy his ASSAULT WEAPON ?
freddy
.308 Win
Some people are completely ignorant of covert operations .During the Vietnam war, special teams were sent far into north Vietnam using Communist weapons and wiped out small villages, killing everybody in the village then nailed North Vietnamese propagandas and warnings to their heads saying this is what happens to people who help Americans . The idea behind these psyops was to enrage the locals against the Communists, and rally people to the South.
Another exsample is Nayirah Kuwaiti, the girl who swore before congress that Iraqi soldiers were killing babies in Kuwait Later proven to be a complete fabrication . this operation was conducted against the American people to gain support for war in Iraq in 91
The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by an American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda
In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.
The surprise attack on Pearl harbor was no surprise at all , the US and British placed an oil embargo on an Island country that had no natural oil reserves, the US knew that Japan had no other option than to break the embargo At some point And attack US naval forces.
Psyop operations have been around since people could organize Genghis khan used them in the 12th Century by demanding surrender of a small city or town or compete annihilation of every living thing in the city . When the town refused he carried out his threat and made sure everybody knew about it. the next town he went to he only asked for taxes and aid and that none of his soldiers would enter their city and their safety would be guaranteed. or complete annihilation , as a result , most of the territory he won, there was never an arrow fired.
The results of sandy hook was that citizens rights of NYS were infringed upon , In other words, the governor took advantage of a tragedy to gain more power. President Obama tried as well and failed . They took advantage of the psychological and emotional effect of the shooting to restrict the rights of its citizens.
Operation fast and furious , was used to try to impose strict gun laws in the Border states making the claim that cartels were purchasing guns in the US and using them in Mexico It was later confirmed that most of the weapons were coming from central American countries like Nicaragua, San Salvador , Guatemala, Columbia where military weapons are cheap and abundant.
We have a media that undeniably controlled and filtered by elements in the government and possibly industries and businesses with global interest's .
the media has lied to the people over an over again and can no longer be taken at its word . The conjunction of the two gives rise to suspicion whenever peoples rights are involved or a major policy change like NAFTA or Obama care is pushed.
The truth is, people lie, people are corrupt, and immoral , In light of these facts, I am suspicious of events which can shape political policy's due to past actions demonstrating it to be true.
“it is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” Ben Franklin.
If we can't think for ourselves, if we're unwilling to question authority, then we're just putty in the hands of those in power.-Carl Sagan
Still, this does not prove we will get a overall false story on the LV shooting. We may, but we may not.
freddy
.308 Win
Some people are completely ignorant of covert operations .During the Vietnam war, special teams were sent far into north Vietnam using Communist weapons and wiped out small villages, killing everybody in the village then nailed North Vietnamese propagandas and warnings to their heads saying this is what happens to people who help Americans . The idea behind these psyops was to enrage the locals against the Communists, and rally people to the South.
Another exsample is Nayirah Kuwaiti, the girl who swore before congress that Iraqi soldiers were killing babies in Kuwait Later proven to be a complete fabrication . this operation was conducted against the American people to gain support for war in Iraq in 91
The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by an American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda
In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.
The surprise attack on Pearl harbor was no surprise at all , the US and British placed an oil embargo on an Island country that had no natural oil reserves, the US knew that Japan had no other option than to break the embargo At some point And attack US naval forces.
Psyop operations have been around since people could organize Genghis khan used them in the 12th Century by demanding surrender of a small city or town or compete annihilation of every living thing in the city . When the town refused he carried out his threat and made sure everybody knew about it. the next town he went to he only asked for taxes and aid and that none of his soldiers would enter their city and their safety would be guaranteed. or complete annihilation , as a result , most of the territory he won, there was never an arrow fired.
The results of sandy hook was that citizens rights of NYS were infringed upon , In other words, the governor took advantage of a tragedy to gain more power. President Obama tried as well and failed . They took advantage of the psychological and emotional effect of the shooting to restrict the rights of its citizens.
Operation fast and furious , was used to try to impose strict gun laws in the Border states making the claim that cartels were purchasing guns in the US and using them in Mexico It was later confirmed that most of the weapons were coming from central American countries like Nicaragua, San Salvador , Guatemala, Columbia where military weapons are cheap and abundant.
We have a media that undeniably controlled and filtered by elements in the government and possibly industries and businesses with global interest's .
the media has lied to the people over an over again and can no longer be taken at its word . The conjunction of the two gives rise to suspicion whenever peoples rights are involved or a major policy change like NAFTA or Obama care is pushed.
The truth is, people lie, people are corrupt, and immoral , In light of these facts, I am suspicious of events which can shape political policy's due to past actions demonstrating it to be true.
“it is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” Ben Franklin.
If we can't think for ourselves, if we're unwilling to question authority, then we're just putty in the hands of those in power.-Carl Sagan
YOU ARE SO RIGHT !!
In WWI the British started a story that Germans were making SOAP from the War Dead.
This lie worked so well, that in WWII the Germans were accused of it AGAIN - this time against the Jews. DNA tests have yet to identify a single bar of soap made from a human being.
NO - I'm no NAZI Sympathizer. They deserved to be tried in Nuremberg and be hung.
(NAZI = GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISTS.)
But can't we just tell the TRUTH ?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No it doesn't prove anything, it only explains why people question what they're told . I don't know what he hell happened in Vegas , It should be a relatively open and shut case , man snaps kills himself case closed, there shouldn't be any lose ends to this . its not that complex. but the evidence we have suggests there may be more to the story than what we are told.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
That's the stupidiest most over used quote on the net. I can use occams razor to explain why there was 23 guns in the room , obviously there were more than 23 people involved. Its stupid.
The evidence points to a massive cover-up.
Of what I don't know.
But it's NOT just some WHITE GUY "SNAPPING".
And the simplest explanation IS NOT some White Guy Snapped.
That's like saying the simplest explanation is ALIENS.
freddy
.308 Win
With that insightful and considered response I can tell you are a very smart guy.
freddy
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Brilliant! I stand corrected.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Tell me how occams razor doent apply? "the simplest explanation is usually correct" That is the simplest explanation.
Im not saying its true Im saying it can be used in stupid ways like you just did,
Im not saying its true Im saying it can be used in stupid ways like you just did,
As long as you can admit it wasn't some WHITE GUY SNAPPING, that's pretty much all we really know.
Or ever will.
holdover
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freddy
.308 Win
And we know that how, exactly?
freddy
.308 Win
They have not released their final account yet. I will hold judgement until then, unpopular an idea as that is around here.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I was asking Freddo
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
That's not what I asked you, Everybody knows they haven't released their final account. But of what you know so far ?
If any random WHITE GUY with GUNS can just wake up on any given Morning, SNAP, and start shooting people, by all means the SECOND ADMENDMENT should be repealed.
I know.
Just thot I'd give him something else to dwell on.
I'm thinkin' he still thinks the Guvmint is his friend.
freddy
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What precisely is a "SECOND ADMENDMENT"?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
why are you dodging the question? did the government lie to you or not?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
OK Il'l answer it for you. You just don't know ,
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I think It comes after your first communion
freddy
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I don't know anything so far. That is why I will wait to hear their side. I am willing to consider the possibility of minor or major deceit once I hear what is said.
You and others here assume without reservation that the ONLY possible outcome is a massive coverup of pure lies by every agency in the land. You do this prior to a final and complete report by the people most intimate with the actual facts of the case.
Just because you have been lied to before does not necessarily mean you will be this time.
freddy
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Andy? Is that you?