Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It depends if the spot that he shot between the vest could reach a vital area. Even a .308 in a non vital area doesn't mean lights out right then and there.
Church shooting in Texas, several casualties reported
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gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I think a flare gun right through the side between the plate and his chest would have been the most effective.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
In the Crowder interview Willeford stated that he grabbed a handful of ammo and loaded the mag on the way out the door. He checked ammo during the pursuit and he said he had one left in the mag and one in the pipe.
Keep loaded mags accessible gentlemen.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Sadly this is exactly the type of person that Cuomo says isn't welcome in NY. I'll take him every day of the week over a piece of shit like Andrew.
freddy
.308 Win
Yes. Preferably 100+
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
From 1897 editorial. "Virginia, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours, man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! "
God Bless Texas.
@thewheels
.308 Win
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Texas Hero Reportedly Used His Own AR to Confront the Sutherland Springs Shooter Read more at: Texas Hero Reportedly Used His Own AR to Confront the Sutherland Springs Shooter
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Gunman Checked Each Aisle, Shot Babies At Point-Blank Range
Investigators collected at least 15 empty magazines that held 30 rounds each at the scene, suggesting the assailant fired at least 450 rounds.
Investigators collected at least 15 empty magazines that held 30 rounds each at the scene, suggesting the assailant fired at least 450 rounds.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Those reporters are scumbags.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Texas church shooter escaped mental health facility in 2012
The man who shot and killed 26 people in a Texas church Sunday was checked into and escaped from a mental health facility in New Mexico in 2012, according to a police report obtained by CBS affiliate KHOU-TV.
Devin Kelley was sent to the Peak Behavioral Health Services Center in Santa Teresa, New Mexico, but escaped on June 13, 2012, fleeing to El Paso, Texas, according to the report. His stay at the facility came after multiple incidents between June 2011 and April 2012 in which he beat his wife and stepson, who suffered a fractured skull in one incident.
It is not clear if those attacks were why he was checked into the facility. Kelley was court martialed, pleaded guilty and wasn't sentenced until November 7, 2012 for the assaults, when he was ordered to serve a year in confinement.
The El Paso police report warned that Kelley "was a danger to himself and others as he had already been caught sneaking firearms" onto the base, where he "was attempting to carry out death threats that (he) had made on his military chain of command."
Texas church shooter escaped mental health facility in 2012
The man who shot and killed 26 people in a Texas church Sunday was checked into and escaped from a mental health facility in New Mexico in 2012, according to a police report obtained by CBS affiliate KHOU-TV.
Devin Kelley was sent to the Peak Behavioral Health Services Center in Santa Teresa, New Mexico, but escaped on June 13, 2012, fleeing to El Paso, Texas, according to the report. His stay at the facility came after multiple incidents between June 2011 and April 2012 in which he beat his wife and stepson, who suffered a fractured skull in one incident.
It is not clear if those attacks were why he was checked into the facility. Kelley was court martialed, pleaded guilty and wasn't sentenced until November 7, 2012 for the assaults, when he was ordered to serve a year in confinement.
The El Paso police report warned that Kelley "was a danger to himself and others as he had already been caught sneaking firearms" onto the base, where he "was attempting to carry out death threats that (he) had made on his military chain of command."
Texas church shooter escaped mental health facility in 2012
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
All mags loaded, at all times.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Trump on 'Extreme Vetting' for Gun Buyers: 'Not Going to Help'
Trump on 'Extreme Vetting' for Gun Buyers: 'Not Going to Help'
At today's press conference with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, Trump was asked by NBC reporter Ali Vitali, "You've talked about wanting to put extreme vetting on people trying to come into the United States, but I wonder if you would consider extreme vetting for people trying to buy a gun."
"Well, you're bringing up a situation that probably shouldn't be discussed too much right now," Trump responded. "We could let a little time go by, but it's OK. If you feel that that's an appropriate question, even though we're in the heart of South Korea, I will certainly answer your question."
"If you did what you're suggesting, there would have been no difference three days ago, and you might not have had that very brave person who happened to have a gun or a rifle in his truck go out and shoot him, and hit him and neutralize him. And I can only say this: If he didn't have a gone, instead of having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead. So that's the way I feel about it. Not going to help," he said.
Trump on 'Extreme Vetting' for Gun Buyers: 'Not Going to Help'
At today's press conference with South Korean President Moon Jae-in, Trump was asked by NBC reporter Ali Vitali, "You've talked about wanting to put extreme vetting on people trying to come into the United States, but I wonder if you would consider extreme vetting for people trying to buy a gun."
"Well, you're bringing up a situation that probably shouldn't be discussed too much right now," Trump responded. "We could let a little time go by, but it's OK. If you feel that that's an appropriate question, even though we're in the heart of South Korea, I will certainly answer your question."
"If you did what you're suggesting, there would have been no difference three days ago, and you might not have had that very brave person who happened to have a gun or a rifle in his truck go out and shoot him, and hit him and neutralize him. And I can only say this: If he didn't have a gone, instead of having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead. So that's the way I feel about it. Not going to help," he said.
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camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Besides, the vetting isn't worth a spit when the Air Force doesn't report his arrests and discharges to the appropriate authorities, thereby allowing him the ability to buy all the firearms he had.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Sure seems like this should have been somewhere in a nicks check.
Texas church shooting: Gunman escaped from mental health facility in 2012
Robin
Texas church shooting: Gunman escaped from mental health facility in 2012
Robin
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Inside the Texas church, she thought it was her turn to die. Then outside, a man appeared.
As Farida Brown lay on the floor in the last row of pews in Sutherland Springs First Baptist Church, the 73-year-old woman felt certain she would be the next one killed.
And she almost was.
The gunman had fired numerous rounds into her legs. She was shot four times, but they all struck soft tissue. None of her bones were broken, and no arteries were hit, her son said. But the man was revisiting those he had shot to make sure they were dead and if they weren't, he was shooting them once more.
Inside the Texas church, she thought it was her turn to die. Then outside, a man appeared.
As Farida Brown lay on the floor in the last row of pews in Sutherland Springs First Baptist Church, the 73-year-old woman felt certain she would be the next one killed.
And she almost was.
The gunman had fired numerous rounds into her legs. She was shot four times, but they all struck soft tissue. None of her bones were broken, and no arteries were hit, her son said. But the man was revisiting those he had shot to make sure they were dead and if they weren't, he was shooting them once more.
Inside the Texas church, she thought it was her turn to die. Then outside, a man appeared.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
That proves that the author does not understand the proper use or value of defensive firearms. Nobody has to die to prevent a bad event. If a defensive pistol is deployed and the bad guy runs, or surrenders, or is wounded and arrested, the threat is ended.
As we all know, defensive arms are used to stop threats. If that can be accomplished without anybody dying that is preferable.
freddy
.308 Win
Yes, exactly correct.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
For the past 50 years, the left has been telling us that criminals just need more hugs and lunatics should be treated just like everyone else.
Does anyone else see crap like this as a negative repercussion of those policies?
Does anyone else see crap like this as a negative repercussion of those policies?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Ergo, trust not in government to help you or protect you.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Sickening.
I keep wondering what 5 or 10 concealed carriers could have done to save lives of the innocent that were under assault.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
never mind...lol
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
LOVE IT!!!!!! Imagine the verbal diarrhea that would have come out of Obummer's pie hole to that question.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
BAM!!!! Right in the kisser! If he keeps this up he may just earn my trust!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
@Darth Are you a believer yet?
freddy
.308 Win
100%He was also a white male, if we are interested in all the irrelevant labels.