Turn your .357 Sig into a Rifle
- Thread starter Marine Cpl
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What's it gonna do when it hits something? Explode into powder?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Nope. It's solid copper alloy.
Yeah but it's light, and it's haulin' ass. I'd be a lot more receptive to these solid copper rounds if they could get the price down.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
but will it penetrate a frying pan 
If it held together it would, like a laser beam.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Why wouldn't it hold together? Lead 55 gr 5.56 don't disintegrate after going through a body or a pan.
The really light 40gr varmint screamers explode like a sumbitch as soon as they hit something. Not good for SD. Unless you are defending yourself against rabbits and gophers.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Those are lead going at over 3300 fps.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
They say these penetrate 17 inches in gel.
What's the difference vs the heavier versions then?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The heavier versions are marked for hunting. They have more penetration. These fast ones are their defense line.
Another problem: What would the POI of these be vs standard weight projectiles. Most non target handguns do not have any elevation adjustment so if the was a dramatic difference that could be a problem, most guns are going to be regulated for 115gr or 124gr loads at typical velocites.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You aren't going to be shooting these at 25 plus yards. How off can they possibly be? An inch if that.
It's like having a stout 5.7x28. it should go through level 2's no problem.
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It possible for different loads of the same caliber to be off several inches in POI at that distance. That could be the difference between a hit and a miss.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You are overthinking things. This isn't a target load. I'm sure at 25 yards you aren't aiming for in between the eyes. Most people can't even get a headshot at that distance under stress and while the target is moving.
I want my defensive loads POI to match the POA as closely as possible. Can't be dickin' round with holds under stress.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Point and shoot. That's all you have to worry about. You aren't making shots in between the eyes at 25 yards.
From all the forums I've read about this particular round, you are the only one saying this.
You might as well drop all +P's while you are at it. The extra 200 fps could fuck you up.
+P doesn't get you another 200 fps for one thing. In the HST line it's you around 50 fpsPoint and shoot. That's all you have to worry about. You aren't making shots in between the eyes at 25 yards.
From all the forums I've read about this particular round, you are the only one saying this.
You might as well drop all +P's while you are at it. The extra 200 fps could fuck you up.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Those extra 50 fps will fuck you up at 50 yards. Don't ever shot 147's either. That's 200 fps of deviation. More with +P+
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Now you are just being facetious. Surely you can see the difference between a 60gr projectile at 2000+ fps and a 124gr projectile at 1150 fps is substantial. Ergo the change in POI may well be substantial as well.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The 65 grainer would be flatter. Win, win at 100 yards.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
what is with no loving lead .. crap you have mercury in your mouth if you had cavities filled LOL .. love playing with that stuff too hehee .. for us old guys .. see what plastic fillings do .. points to liberals ...
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Solid copper changes the game completely. Do you need it though? IDK Check this out.