FN509 or APX?

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Does anyone own or have experience with the FN509?

I'm getting closer until I get my permit so I've been doing some research. I've been reading up about the recent new wave of pistols for the modular handgun system bid competition. There is a ton of info on the p320 but I don't really see the FN509 or beretta APX mentioned or talked about very often?

The little I've found on the 509 says good things but it doesn't seem very popular or widespread At all



I've seen 509s online for around 500-550 (online sales) so it might be a good competitor/comparison to a G19.

Just trying to learn more

 

[togmaster]

Look at the CZ P10c. I did and never looked back.

 

[GOYABEAN]

I was thinking on one of these

 

[Podmonkey]

Do you you already have a mainstream pistol in your collection? I don't, I went straight for the boutique PPQ and while I like it a lot the lack of aftermarket support is very frustrating.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Do you you already have a mainstream pistol in your collection? I don't, I went straight for the boutique PPQ and while I like it a lot the lack of aftermarket support is very frustrating.

I have 0 pistols so far .

Still waiting for my permit....thanks a lot Erie county

 

[Podmonkey]

I have 0 pistols so far .

Still waiting for my permit....thanks a lot Erie county

I would look at a Glock or Smith & Wesson or even the SIG P320 first. It will be easier to find holsters for those and getting the right holster, for you, is very important. Take it from a guy who did it backwards.

 

[Podmonkey]

I suppose the HK VP9 has a fair amount of support too.

 

[Prudii]

I suppose the HK VP9 has a fair amount of support too.

This.

VP9 is a great gun and HK has lowered their prices considerably in the last few months. Here's the grey one with 10rd mags for $523. I've shot the FN 509 and APX they are not a bad guns they are just not special. Glock is popular because of its mass use by police and P320 is popular because its what the military adopted. You could get any of the major brand name polymer framed striker fired service pistols and be happy. For the most part it really does come down to personal opinion.

 

[Justincase]

Buffalo gun center has the APX on sale for $469 or so. They may have the 509 there too. Handle both of them and see what you think. I liked how the APX felt. As mentioned, don't rule out the VP9. It's a great gun. Fit, finish, feel, and accuracy are second to none.

 

[Edwardteach72]

This.

VP9 is a great gun and HK has lowered their prices considerably in the last few months. Here's the grey one with 10rd mags for $523. I've shot the FN 509 and APX they are not a bad guns they are just not special. Glock is popular because of its mass use by police and P320 is popular because its what the military adopted. You could get any of the major brand name polymer framed striker fired service pistols and be happy. For the most part it really does come down to personal opinion.

Umm the P320 has been popular for a few years prior to the military adopting it

 

[Prudii]

Umm the P320 has been popular for a few years prior to the military adopting it

Yes but it has become considerably more popular since the conclusion of MHS. Due in part to some people buying just because its what the military adopted.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yes but it has become considerably more popular since the conclusion of MHS. Due in part to some people buying just because its what the military adopted.

I'd say mildly more populare.. if anything gaining a little more of the lost popularity after the lawsuits by the officer that had a 320 go off and shoot him in the leg. And after Sig telling all their customers to fuck off there is nothing wrong with their defective guns, then Sig a few weeks later saying well we do have this upgrade cause maybe our design is flawed. Yea so at best they are right at where they were before the mhs trials were officially over. Oh and probably losing a little more now that the military is pretty much saying they go what they paid for and having nothing but issues

 

[Podmonkey]

I'd say mildly more populare.. if anything gaining a little more of the lost popularity after the lawsuits by the officer that had a 320 go off and shoot him in the leg. And after Sig telling all their customers to fuck off there is nothing wrong with their defective guns, then Sig a few weeks later saying well we do have this upgrade cause maybe our design is flawed. Yea so at best they are right at where they were before the mhs trials were officially over. Oh and probably losing a little more now that the military is pretty much saying they go what they paid for and having nothing but issues

Still think the P320 is a sol I d pistol though. It's just new. There are a lays kinks to work out in new guns, always. If Sig hadn't allowed marketing concerns prevent them from incorporating a light polymer trigger with a dingus they wouldn't have hardly any bad press to deal with.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Still think the P320 is a sol I d pistol though. It's just new. There are a lays kinks to work out in new guns, always. If Sig hadn't allowed marketing concerns prevent them from incorporating a light polymer trigger with a dingus they wouldn't have hardly any bad press to deal with.

I'm not saying it is a bad pistol, just it' nothing amazing, the main selling point is also the main issue, no dingus, so to overcome that (instead of a super light trigger shoe) they took a good trigger and made it meh->decent but to say it's a new gun is not true. It' been out for what 3-5 years

 

[Prudii]

I'm not saying it is a bad pistol, just it' nothing amazing, the main selling point is also the main issue, no dingus, so to overcome that (instead of a super light trigger shoe) they took a good trigger and made it meh->decent but to say it's a new gun is not true. It' been out for what 3-5 years

2014 same year the VP9 was released.

 

[Edwardteach72]

2014 same year the VP9 was released.

So 3-5 years would have been a valid guess? And also 2014 release does not make a new gun offering in 2018

 

[Edwardteach72]

As for the original topic. I have not handled either of these guns, part if me wants to lime the APX but I just meh. Looks like the design limits the ability to add a red dot so for me personally no thanks, also the grip serrations or what ever seem like an awesome idea but watching MAC review it seems like he was saying they didn' do anything and the gun was a bitch to run when wet/slick.

As for the 509 well Larry Vickers had a lot of input in that gun and I think he may have a few ideas on how things should be. So if it was between the 2 I'd go with the 509

 

[Podmonkey]

I'm not saying it is a bad pistol, just it' nothing amazing, the main selling point is also the main issue, no dingus, so to overcome that (instead of a super light trigger shoe) they took a good trigger and made it meh->decent but to say it's a new gun is not true. It' been out for what 3-5 years

That is new. Takes years to expose and workout the kinks

 

[Edwardteach72]

That is new. Takes years to expose and workout the kinks

 

[Podmonkey]

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It's the truth. Military adoption, with its vast sample sizes, uncover faults that might take years to uncover in civilian service. Look at the long period of refinement the vaunted 1911 went through. The Berreta 92 also underwent several revisions to address various issues. Nothing is ever perfect out of the gate.

 

[Edwardteach72]

It's the truth. Military adoption, with its vast sample sizes, uncover faults that might take years to uncover in civilian service. Look at the long period of refinement the vaunted 1911 went through. The Berreta 92 also underwent several revisions to address various issues. Nothing is ever perfect out of the gate.

 

[Podmonkey]

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That was released when? And they just released what generation?

 

[Edwardteach72]

That was released when? And they just released what generation?

Hey now I've been vocal in how stupid the new glock a are as well

 

[Justincase]

Still think the P320 is a sol I d pistol though. It's just new. There are a lays kinks to work out in new guns, always. If Sig hadn't allowed marketing concerns prevent them from incorporating a light polymer trigger with a dingus they wouldn't have hardly any bad press to deal with.

If I was going to consider the P320 at all, I would most certainly look the 320x as opposed to the standard version.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Only Sigs I would even consider are the 320x carry or the 320x5 or an actual Sig 226X5 or maybe one day a Sig P210 and honestly those are all if I had everything else I ever wanted first

What about the 2022?

 

[Edwardteach72]

What about the 2022?

Nope but that is also because I personally do not like Sigs even the 320x carry and x5 are just barely on the consideration list..

And that' not saying any of them are bad guns I just don't get any appeal from Sigs, especially US made ones

 

[Robin]

Thats why there are dozens of manufacturers making hundreds of different models.
Robin

 

[fpv930]

I have a Smith & Wesson XD Mod 2 9mm, Glock 19 and 43. These are all good firearms. I have also shot the FN509. It feels good and shot well for me. However, the person who owns the FN is thinking of a different carry gun as there are not as many accessories for the FN. I have also shot an HK VP9 and i thought it was an amazing firearm. I think any of the firearms listed in the replies are good firearms. It will come down to fit and feel in your hand. If you know someone you can go to the range with an try out a couple of different models that would be best. My pistol club usually holds a "try your gun" night a couple of times per year where members bring in firearms for people to try. It's a great way to get a feel for the firearm before purchasing.