Let's talk AOW and New York.

[Edwardteach72]

Ok so I already know that us common folk can't have SBRs SBSs Suppressors or Full auto / select fire.

But if I remember correctly reading in a random thread that AOWs are good to go here in New York

(If I am incorrect in this statement no need to go any further)

Now if I am correct, let's talk about them. How do we go about doing so, I used to have a decent idea of how NFA items worked but I know there have been changes over the last year or so.

And if they are g2g here is my idea, the safe act doesn't seem to cover scary features for AOW, just rifles pistols shotguns. So I'm thinking take AR-15 pistol (with fixed 10 round magazine of course to start) get it approved and registered as an AOW with the addition of a vertical forgrip, now you no longer need the fixed magazine because it isn't a rifle or pistol (10 round limit still)

 

[Bananabandit]

@Bullet Guy is your man. Im at 11 months for 2 AOWs.

 

[Edwardteach72]

@Bullet Guy is your man. Im at 11 months for 2 AOWs.

Transfer or converting something into one?

 

[Bananabandit]

Transfer or converting something into one?

Well he deals in that stuff. Knows the laws and such.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I am sure he will chime in hopefully

 

[SomeSoldier]

Transfer or converting something into one?

You cannot convert into an aow. You need to purchase a virgin lower and have it transferrd to you as a firearm, not sure if it's firearm or AOW. If you search for it there is a thread on this topic about 4 month ago. I believe the only law you would still have to follow is fixed mag.

 

[spat]

You cannot convert into an aow. You need to purchase a virgin lower and have it transferrd to you as a firearm, not sure if it's firearm or AOW. If you search for it there is a thread on this topic about 4 month ago. I believe the only law you would still have to follow is fixed mag.

I could be wrong, but I *think* you can convert a pistol into an AOW, just not a long gun as far as federal rules go.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

The issue is the frds are probably never going to give you a stanp for a fixed mag ar AOW.

Uou could try but it will take months and montha and lota of converstaiona with the ATF.

As joted above, we are at 11 months already for an AOW serbu ( i have 4 i am waiting on). The atf contactdd me about being in ny for these 2-3
Months ago....

i think it is back in the system cause no denials were receieved.....no new is good news.

 

[BDinPutnam]

You cannot convert into an aow. You need to purchase a virgin lower and have it transferrd to you as a firearm, not sure if it's firearm or AOW. If you search for it there is a thread on this topic about 4 month ago. I believe the only law you would still have to follow is fixed mag.

I don't know that it makes a difference but a stripped lower is "other" on a 4473, at least the last time I bought a couple two years ago or so.

 

[SomeSoldier]

I don't know that it makes a difference but a stripped lower is "other" on a 4473, at least the last time I bought a couple two years ago or so.

Yea, then it's good to go. Can't be sold as rifle or pistol then converted to other.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

Would this be good to go?
The M26 PDW model has a barrel length of 3.25 inches but because it has a pistol grip and no butt stock it is designated as an AOW (Any Other Weapon / Title 2 Firearm).

 

[BDinPutnam]

Would this be good to go?
The M26 PDW model has a barrel length of 3.25 inches but because it has a pistol grip and no butt stock it is designated as an AOW (Any Other Weapon / Title 2 Firearm).

Wouldn't that be a pistol?

 

[FrankenCub]

Smooth bore makes it AOW. But at $1200 I call it a waste of money.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Smooth bore makes it AOW. But at $1200 I call it a waste of money.

Ah, thanks.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

Waste yeah but every firearm that I want is either not NY complaint or very difficult to obtain due to the rules here. So does that mean it is legal?

 

[BDinPutnam]

If memory serves AOW is the only NFA one can have in NY.

With that said you need local LEO or some other "gatekeeper" to sign off on your ATF form (last I knew).

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

If memory serves AOW is the only NFA one can have in NY.

With that said you need local LEO or some other "gatekeeper" to sign off on your ATF form (last I knew).

And how would I do that? I’m not familiar with the process.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Actually, looks like you might not need that anymore and instead have to send notification to your local LEO. Browse ATF's website. Its still obnoxious and you still need to get permission from ATF to take your gun to another state. Etc.

I haven't looked closely at this in years because nothing I want (SBR, suppressor) is legal in NY anyway.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

you still need to get permission from ATF to take your gun to another state. Etc.

Wait I can’t freely travel with my firearms?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Wait I can’t freely travel with my firearms?

Not NFA stuff.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

Not NFA stuff.

Alright.