Alan West: The Second Amendment and Civil Disobediance
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I love it, and im all for mass civil disobedience. We need an open carry march with 10s of 1000s of patriots. A march on the national mall in DC. BUUUUUUUUT, whos going to organize it?
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Give me a time and I’ll be there with a G 27 on my hip.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
Well said, and well-written. All I need is the when and the where. I've had enough. Time they got a taste of their own medicine.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
I'd strongly prefer a National march, so big the media could not ignore it.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
No "ORGANIZATION" as of date
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
The reason the Germans never became Communists is that they couldn't get the permits. End old joke.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
East German permit jokes. Verrrry interesting!
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
It would be interesting if we could get 200 open carriers to show up at a school board meeting. Or even at a Post Office.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Well there's a relatively well organized organization with all kinds of organizational skills that has an organization of something like 5 million members that could probably organize something but they're too busy organizing a lawsuit defending their right to organize the monetization of their trademark.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
It would be interesting to see if local governments begin to disregard the state ordinances -- just like state governments are disregarding the federal laws on immigration.
If local governments make "pro-2A" zones in NY, then the final straw comes down to enforcement. Will LEO stand with the people and local governments, or will they decide they want to act on behalf of the state, and enforce unconstitutional laws? I'm not sure. It's a gamble, and disobedience on a local government scale.
Looking at other instances in which unconstitutional laws have been passed in this state, though, my guess would be that LEO would enforce the will of the state. It would be a losing civil disobedience battle as long as the these unconstitutional policies will be enforced.
If local governments make "pro-2A" zones in NY, then the final straw comes down to enforcement. Will LEO stand with the people and local governments, or will they decide they want to act on behalf of the state, and enforce unconstitutional laws? I'm not sure. It's a gamble, and disobedience on a local government scale.
Looking at other instances in which unconstitutional laws have been passed in this state, though, my guess would be that LEO would enforce the will of the state. It would be a losing civil disobedience battle as long as the these unconstitutional policies will be enforced.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
How many counties signed on to officially opposing the SAFE act? Most of them.
How many threads here regarding AR's are about complying with it?
How many threads here regarding AR's are about complying with it?
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Then it needs to be made clear to the enforcers that there will be consequences for their actions.
MadScientist
.45 acp
What consequences? It’s not like we can boycott tax payment that funds them. For all intents and purposes our govt operates without impunity, accountability, nor our consent
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I don't believe this means anything. If you walk around with a 33 round Glock magazine sticking out of your back pocket in any of these counties, you'll get arrested for it just like you would if open carrying a fully featured long gun with a collapsible stock, forward grip, and a flash hider even though the carrying of long guns is legal in this state.
The excuse that will be used is that a call was made and they have no choice but to act on it.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
"how many counties signed on to oppose the safe act:"
It's so EASY to write or talk vs action.
It's so EASY to write or talk vs action.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
If someone is arrested for a SAFE act infringement of their civil Liberties, all these second amendment groups should immediately rally their membership's to meet at the county jail, surround it and demand release. That would be civil disobedience. Escalation would be up to the government and met with even stiffer resistance.
Robin
Robin
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep, "should", ah me.
Robin
Robin
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Are you volunteering, Robin?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Volunteering for what? I have volunteered for many things, some of them were very scary, but I always knew what kind of shit pile I was diving into. Maybe time for someone else to step up.
Robin
Robin
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
look at all the green on the map up there ..
now how many got trapped and arrested from the safe act from them in the green ..
I remember something on 1 or 2 ar's and a gravel pit i believe it was .. Erie county i think
The guy with mags to big here for his pistol .. Erie too
My brother for a 10-22 thumb hole stock .. vet army MP .. .. can't remember what county .. but i do know the sheriff there was on the news for not backing the act .. oh well .. guess the officers didn't get the message or something ..