Operation - Repeal NY SAFE act

[RDN]

Ok NY gun owners and pro 2nd. Amend. and lovers of freedom. It's time to re-initiate our fight against NY un-SAFE act. The law suit (in Fed. courts) was withdrawn do to the death of Justice Scalia in 2016.

Now
With the retirement of justice Kennedy and the wonderful confirmation today of Kavanaugh, hopefully the balance is tipped in our favor.

 

[Catskillkid]

"Hopefully" is the key words. I still don't entirely trust Roberts or Alito. Maybe when Ginsberg dies and we get another Trump appointee on I'll feel better. Then, as they say, "Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war!"

 

[Steal2B]

I still don't entirely trust Roberts or Alito.

+1

 

[RDN]

"Hopefully" is the key words. I still don't entirely trust Roberts or Alito. Maybe when Ginsberg dies and we get another Trump appointee on I'll feel better. Then, as they say, "Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war!"

Kennedy, IMO, was the wavering factor in our gun rights battles. Who can say what Roberts or Alito will rule.
Regarding Ginsberg, her witchcraft is keeping her immortal. She'll be there a looonngg time.

 

[masterswimmer]

Regarding Ginsberg, her witchcraft is keeping her immortal. She'll be there a looonngg time.

She's already BEEN THERE for a looooong time. Any longer and she'll be classified as immortal (or post humous).

 

[BDinPutnam]

I'm down for it.

Who is the plaintiff and what is their standing to sue (and who are they suing and where)?

 

[pjzwtl]

Question: since the NYSRPA / NRA petition to SCOTUS was withdrawn after Scalia’s death can’t they just re submit the appeal from the circuit courts rulling?

 

[masterswimmer]

Question: since the NYSRPA / NRA petition to SCOTUS was withdrawn after Scalia’s death can’t they just re submit the appeal from the circuit courts rulling?

Not sure but isn't there a time restriction on submitting an appeal?

 

[Twogunwilly]

1st Conservative majority in our lifetime, now we got a shot

 

[pjzwtl]

Not sure but isn't there a time restriction on submitting an appeal?

Would be nice if there wasn’t but...?

 

[Shadow2]

I don't think there is a limit to how many times you can challenge a law as being constitutional or not. It may have to climb through the system again. Their are plenty of cases in the system now that the second amendment foundation or NRA can support midstream to skip a few steps.
Kennedy has been the concerning swing vote Roberts and Alito have always seem to support 2A. I say run it through asap before one of them suffers from a heart attack.

Safe act needs to go but id also like to see this may Issue BS gone in NY.

 

[Cooolone]

@RDN

What are you drinking? LMAO!

Nothing happening overnight and there won't be no floodgates opening! And certainly, you're not going to want such a huge hot button issue at the forefront of the first decisions he's involved with. That just won't work well, I'll bet dollars to donuts he's going to skate the middle of the road for some time.

Besides, with Cuomo Safe Act II is on its way as soon as he gets re-elected! Wait for it...

 

[pjzwtl]

Why assume he will need to walk in the middle for a while? I see him staying the course he has been on all along. He has to appease no one he is there for life.

 

[Mosinitis]

I predict a lot of posts from me reminding you people how SCOTUS is rigged and full of shit.

 

[pjzwtl]

I predict a lot of posts from me reminding you people how SCOTUS is rigged and full of shit.

Would expect nothing less.

He without hope is already lost!

 

[Mosinitis]

Would expect nothing less.

He without hope is already lost!

I am the only one to lose or win?

 

[Uzi]

Let me save you some time and headache. There will be no repeals of the safe act. Expect it to get worse when part 2 is implemented before it ever gets better somehow. Learn from the past, pay attention to the present.

 

[ProgSpear]

@RDN

What are you drinking? LMAO!

Nothing happening overnight and there won't be no floodgates opening! And certainly, you're not going to want such a huge hot button issue at the forefront of the first decisions he's involved with. That just won't work well, I'll bet dollars to donuts he's going to skate the middle of the road for some time.

Besides, with Cuomo Safe Act II is on its way as soon as he gets re-elected! Wait for it...

So increasing the injustice will ultimately strengthen their position exactly how? With this appointment I actually see a change in the tide. Snagging RBG’s seat will just seal the deal, and FUAC and his buddies can go shit in their hats. If the vaunted “blue tide” is thwarted in November, then we can seriously start rolling this crap back.

 

[Marine Cpl]

There could be a 8-1 Republican Majority and they'd refuse to hear gun cases but they'll take on cases that affect nobody like baking a cake for a gay cat from the planet Meow. It's all a sham.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I don't think there is a limit to how many times you can challenge a law as being constitutional or not. It may have to climb through the system again. Their are plenty of cases in the system now that the second amendment foundation or NRA can support midstream to skip a few steps.
Kennedy has been the concerning swing vote Roberts and Alito have always seem to support 2A. I say run it through asap before one of them suffers from a heart attack.

Safe act needs to go but id also like to see this may Issue BS gone in NY.

^^^^This. Any renewed effort will have to work it's way back up the legal ladder. Who knows how it would go. One thought is that given the new make up of the Supreme Court, lower courts would rule more in favor of gun rights, simply to not have their ruling over turned, and or laws completely stricken down. Or things could remain the same with the lower courts and the case would have to be appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court and either @Mosinitis will be proved right or wrong. Who knows? I certainly have more hope now, but I also have a cynical outlook at times.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Kavanaugh's dissent in the Heller II case tells me everything I need to know.

We're moving in the right direction. Slowly.

 

[GOPerfect]

While for all of America, I hope that these types of laws are found to be Un-Constitutional due to the new make-up of the Court. I will remain doubtful though.

I think the best fight to fight now is the one that can stop "Them" from adding more stupid laws.

I will remain optimistic for good change.

 

[pjzwtl]

There could be a 8-1 Republican Majority and they'd refuse to hear gun cases but they'll take on cases that affect nobody like baking a cake for a gay cat from the planet Meow. It's all a sham.

Fuck the cats

 

[Catskillkid]

Fuck the cats

Say whhhaaaatttt????

 

[Shadow2]

Based on the current makeup of the court there is no doubt in my mind the safe act would be tossed along with the may issue BS ... I said it a few years back when the safe act was passed. The backlash from progressive overreach would be severe. "winter is coming"

 

[Marine Cpl]

Say whhhaaaatttt????

Cats are the spawn of the devil. They are selfish and if you die in the house and they have no food in their bowl, they'll eat you.

 

[Saltwater60]

Your better off getting a kidney operation in the jungles of Brazil.

I’d love for it to happen and if there’s anything I can do short of being arrested let me know. Other than that I’m not getting my hopes up. What I do expect is a slew of new gun laws after Andy’s re-elected and the NYS senate goes full retard.

 

[RDN]

Why assume he will need to walk in the middle for a while? I see him staying the course he has been on all along. He has to appease no one he is there for life.

And I would think the way he and his family was treated during the confirmation, Kavanaugh would want some "payback" !

 

[Mosinitis]

There is no SAFE act II. This was a lie floated by NY GOP. They don't do anything for us, except using scare tactics.

 

[Edwardteach72]

There is no SAFE act II. This was a lie floated by NY GOP. They don't do anything for us, except using scare tactics.

No yea you are right. Cuomo is just going to sit back and let California, Washington state. And a few others have stricter gun laws than him...