Article on "printing" (lol printing)
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
This took place in Georgia. Different environment than NYS, though peoples awareness is probably the same. People don't care about you or really notice you.
Good article.
Good article.
How does it make a difference. I know for a fact that "printing" doesnt mean shit. I've "accidentally" open carried (not during hunting season) a glock 17 in Walmart, not one head turn.
I've carried at the 3:30 a glock 17 under a T-shirt when riding my motorcycle, and my T-shirt would happen to fly up pretty high when I got over 10 miles an hour, drove with a Glock 17 wide open with a cop behind me for 3 miles (downtown Corning NY) guess how that traffic stop went.... it didnt because even though he was 1/2 a car length behind me, nothing.
Only people who will notice printing, maybe, are other gun people
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
It most likely doesn't. I'm just considering the overall attitudes of people towards guns as being more friendly down there. Maybe that's wrong.
Again, you are most certainly correct. Except for maybe a freak chance encounter. Or you are doing it horribly wrong.
Well, you can't go to jail for it.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
^^^^^^
This (armed corgi posted before me. I am talking about edward’s post)
I dont wirry about it. Printing. Open carry. All made up chicken little shit.
I almost opened carried into the post office last week.....now THAT could have been bad! I caught myself in the parking lot......and before the asshats start up.....you can have your gun in the PO parking lot!
(Ssshhhhhhhh! Dont tell any one, but i have guns in many of the boxes i drop off at the PO!
)
This (armed corgi posted before me. I am talking about edward’s post)
I dont wirry about it. Printing. Open carry. All made up chicken little shit.
I almost opened carried into the post office last week.....now THAT could have been bad! I caught myself in the parking lot......and before the asshats start up.....you can have your gun in the PO parking lot!
(Ssshhhhhhhh! Dont tell any one, but i have guns in many of the boxes i drop off at the PO!
)
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It's all location based. You cannot base an experience in one location with another. The same reaction you had in Niagara County for example would be different in Westchester County in Yonkers or in Jersey for example where nobody carries except cops.
Bananabandit
.338 Win Mag
well that area has more latte drinkers and manbuns looking in their phone 24/7 too...sooo
I'm pretty new to carrying and the first few times I carried I remember how alert I was trying to subtly notice everyone's behavior and reactions around me that I was certain everyone was noticing me carrying.
No one did. If they did they didn't care.
So as I became more confident I was less worried about wearing a perfect concealing shirt and just started to wear whatever including shorter t shirts that were tight enough you could definitely tell I was carrying if you knew to look. Still no one noticed or cared.
I have decided 90% of people are oblivious and totally wrapped up in what they are doing, their kids are doing, into their phone or their conversation. The majority of people seem to have 0 situation awareness. I haven't once ever noticed anyone having the slightest reaction to me carrying or anyone else carrying.
No one did. If they did they didn't care.
So as I became more confident I was less worried about wearing a perfect concealing shirt and just started to wear whatever including shorter t shirts that were tight enough you could definitely tell I was carrying if you knew to look. Still no one noticed or cared.
I have decided 90% of people are oblivious and totally wrapped up in what they are doing, their kids are doing, into their phone or their conversation. The majority of people seem to have 0 situation awareness. I haven't once ever noticed anyone having the slightest reaction to me carrying or anyone else carrying.
@Willjr75 is very correct. Location means quite a lot. Here, in my area, I could not care any less than I do about printing. When I am in the Southern tier of the State, I do not even bother covering my gun. When I go to certain places in Buffalo proper, I tend to care a bit more about concealment. (Still does not mean I care a whole shit load).
Some places are tougher compared to other places. Take something as simple as a gun show, we all know that they do not allow people to carry in these shows, at least around me. If you do a poor job of concealment, they will make you unload and ziptie the gun. Wanna keep your loaded gun? Conceal well.
Location is very important.
Some places are tougher compared to other places. Take something as simple as a gun show, we all know that they do not allow people to carry in these shows, at least around me. If you do a poor job of concealment, they will make you unload and ziptie the gun. Wanna keep your loaded gun? Conceal well.
Location is very important.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
This was my whole point from the start.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I'm still not comfortable carrying IWB. I generally carry in a coat pocket or vest pocket. This really sucks in the warmer weather.
What about IWB do you not like?
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Even with a single stack 9mm like a Shield, not comfortable sitting down no matter which location I wear. I've tried a handful of holsters, no luck. So if I drive somewhere I have to install the holster when I get out of the car. Too exposed at that point.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
When I first started carrying 20 some years ago I was consumed with not printing lol. Maybe paranoid at times. After realizing no one was even looking I started to loosen up. Now I don't give a shit if someone see a bump in my shirt. Even better, living in the Southern Tier, no one cares if they see a part of my gun. I can't handle the heat the way I used to so when it's hot out there's no way I'm going to be uncomfortable just to hide my handgun. Most times I now carry with my Safariland ALS OWB and I make no effort to conceal it unless I know I'm going to be spending a lot of time going from store to store with the wife. If I do catch someone looking in that particular location I make sure they stay their distance. Most people aren't a threat, but some might be the type to be grabby if you know what I mean. The only time I've even gotten looks from others would be when I was getting fuel and some yuppy out of stater would be getting gas near by. If it came to spitting hairs with someone, I always have an excuse anyway lol. I could be heading out to the woods for firewood, or coming out of the woods heading home, going hunting, etc etc etc. LEO's in this area don't care. If you're obviously carrying a handgun, they probably figure you have a permit.
My wife's ex started a bunch of shit when we first got together. Told the Endicott Police I carried a Glock 19, so they had to show up to investigate it. One of the officers asked if I did carry a gun, said yup sure do. He asked what I have, started rambling off what I had and he said that's enough. I asked if he wanted to see my permit, he says no don't bother.
My wife's ex started a bunch of shit when we first got together. Told the Endicott Police I carried a Glock 19, so they had to show up to investigate it. One of the officers asked if I did carry a gun, said yup sure do. He asked what I have, started rambling off what I had and he said that's enough. I asked if he wanted to see my permit, he says no don't bother.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Again. Location, location, location. You do a piss poor job of concealing in lower Westchester and one of the sheep calls it in, the police will approach you like gangbusters.
I had a woman in Stop and Shop in Orange County where I live ask me where I worked? I asked her what she meant. She asked me if I worked in the City or locally. I said in the City with a question mark on my face. She said it shows. I said what that I work in the City? She said no and pointed to my waist. I said,"Oh. I'm not a cop but I do work in the city" and pushed my cart away from her. She must have been an off duty cop from the city. They use phrases like on the job a lot.
I was actually pissed that I did a piss poor job that day in concealing it. I don't want anybody making me out. Ever. It puts my in a tactical disadvantage.
I had a woman in Stop and Shop in Orange County where I live ask me where I worked? I asked her what she meant. She asked me if I worked in the City or locally. I said in the City with a question mark on my face. She said it shows. I said what that I work in the City? She said no and pointed to my waist. I said,"Oh. I'm not a cop but I do work in the city" and pushed my cart away from her. She must have been an off duty cop from the city. They use phrases like on the job a lot.
I was actually pissed that I did a piss poor job that day in concealing it. I don't want anybody making me out. Ever. It puts my in a tactical disadvantage.
I think the only people that even bother to look are other carriers, or police
The general public is off in their own little world.
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
I imagine John Q Public would think you were a cop if he spotted a holstered weapon.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
That's what I tell my wife every time I open carry around here.
When I go to Kingston, I won't do it though.
Besides asking and "hassling", what can the Police do if you are printing? Um, nothing.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
What’s under the shirt.
Medical device.
Can I see it.
No.
Medical device.
Can I see it.
No.
I was made once years ago when I first started to carry. Sitting at a picnic table with friends when one of them noticed a couple guys behind me looking my way and pointing. Turns out the grip of my pistol was poking against my shirt like a bonner in a speedo. Have since improved to the point that even girlfriends were unaware I was armed until well into the relationship when I knew they were ok with concealed carry
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
The proper response is colostomy bag, want to see it?
Toecutter
.308 Win
My BIL is a retired cop he is carrying a five seven as of lately in an owb holster the gun hangs out of the bottom of his shirt . he lives in Westchester and never has had an issue. I've accedently had my shirt creep over my pistol while using an owb holster in Westchester and I dont thing anyone even noticed.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Retired cop doesn’t count.
Simple flash of ID and he is on his way.
Simple flash of ID and he is on his way.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Question for the LEO's @GOPerfect @Airborneguy if you are responding to a call/complaint because someone suspects someone of carrying a gun, would the person have to show you the "medical device"? I'm pretty sure there is a difference between a cop just walking up to you and asking you to see something verses responding to a complaint. Is that correct?
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Sooooo anyone can accuse anyone of carrying and then get searched?
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Suspects someone of carrying vs waiving around.
I'll remember that next time were hanging out!