If it's a part of a weapon its protected.
Now Trumps a sell out and bans bump stocks.
- Thread starter Saltwater60
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If it's a part of a weapon its protected.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Has anyone thought Trump knew it would never stand up and only proposed it to appease Congress so it would be this way and a judge would rule it unconstitutional, so that in the future, it couldn't be banned by the left? Just playing devil's advocate here, not saying this is his chess move.
Are iron sights, red dots, mags, triggers, flash riders, silencers protected?
If he wanted to protect 2a he would have done it already, had house and senate. Controls DOJ.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I suppose but there's more than one way to skin an apple. Maybe he felt this approach would accomplish similar things without being so direct and in your face. Not saying I agree or think this is what's going on. I just know that we have jumped to conclusions before about the way he handles his presidency to get certain things done. We aren't in his head.
In the same way an engine is s piece of "transportation."
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I hate when every once in a while you go down this route.
It's an integral part of a specific weapon. So if I want a bump stock equipped weapon because I cannot afford a fully automatic one to be on par with a government foot soldier for militia use, denying me one is infringing on my 2A right to have a particular style of weapon to suppress the enemy.
You tried the same argument before with magazines. Any part or accessory that is an integral part of a weapon system is a component of the arm itself.
Under your logic, you can ban gas blocks because the rifle will still fire without one in single shot mode thus banning semi autos.
Ok, bolt assemblies are now illegal. Might as well ban the whole weapon.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Not defending this BS ban but our system of gov doesn’t work like that. The president isn’t a dictator and can’t make the legislature do anything regardless of what party controls it. And It sucks but no big 2A win would get past a Senate filibuster between the dems and the RINOS it would be DOA.
As for the DOJ I don’t want depts to be able to policy my rights regardless of who is in the White House
And it really sucks that our only real hope is more pro 2A (pro constructionist) judges on the bench and only time will tell if he picked well
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yeah. Ban iron sights so that you can't have a rugged iron sight only rifle. Ban scopes and bipods so that you can't have long distance sniper rifles. Ban red dots so that you can't have a CQB rifle. Ban handguards so that you can't have a rifle that can maintain a sustained rate of fire.
All these accessories turn a certain rifle into a class of rifle. Are banning classes of arms not infringements of the 2A? All those classes of arms are integral for militia use.
All these accessories turn a certain rifle into a class of rifle. Are banning classes of arms not infringements of the 2A? All those classes of arms are integral for militia use.
I'm just attempting to have a conversation. Trying to make people think a bit. Just getting tired of all the same motherfucking and bitching.
See ya guys down the road.... I'm gonna sign out for a while.
See ya guys down the road.... I'm gonna sign out for a while.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Don't be mad and take your football home. We want to play.
Is a barrel an arm? How about a regular stock. Can they ban all stocks so that we can't stabilize a weapon for accuracy?
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Personally, I'm of the opinion that full auto is protected - it has a military (militia) application and more than enough history of use. That kind of makes bump stocks small potatoes.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
ok, these symantics are getting ridiculous. Just stop it, you people are starting to sound like domocRATS
lets face it, this is another 'feel good' act to apease the sheep. lets all count the number of times the Bump stock has been used in a crime, compared to how long the devices have been on the market? ONCE! by a stupid scumwaffle in Vegas.
lets face it, this is another 'feel good' act to apease the sheep. lets all count the number of times the Bump stock has been used in a crime, compared to how long the devices have been on the market? ONCE! by a stupid scumwaffle in Vegas.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I see your line of thinking, but clearly a bump stock does not make it a fully automatic weapon. If they are banning a bump stock stating its a machine gun then what else can they ban? That’s my problem with this.
Awe sounds like someone is tired of defending Daddy and all his fuck ups. And instead of admitting that he got fooled once again by daddy and his chosen bdsm dungeon, they are just going to rage quit
I'm of the opinion that, yes, even the oft touted NUKES should be legal.
What is preventing someone from using a nuke and committing genocide right now?
Words on paper?
"Well, I was gong to kill thousands of people, but this law says I can't. Drats!"
Would you apologists call a spade a spade for once?
What is preventing someone from using a nuke and committing genocide right now?
Words on paper?
"Well, I was gong to kill thousands of people, but this law says I can't. Drats!"
Would you apologists call a spade a spade for once?
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Leave my job out of this.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
numchucks are full auto .. till you get hit by that one whooops .. covered under 2A NOW BY NY JUDGE ..
So the NRA finally released a statement..... they are "disappointed"
So GOA filed a lawsuit almost instantly, NRA... Disappointed
NRA 'Disappointed' By Trump Bump Stock Ban - The Truth About Guns
So GOA filed a lawsuit almost instantly, NRA... Disappointed
NRA 'Disappointed' By Trump Bump Stock Ban - The Truth About Guns
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
@GOPerfect Bump stocks are inanimate pieces of plastic which, on their own, do nothing. They are no more a "firearm" than politicians are "servants of the public". They are an accessory that effectively mimic Jerry Michulek's right finger.
No Daddy Trump told him that they are machine guns and 4D chesscers
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
But, but, but... my parchment with ink says you can't do that...
And but but I keep giving the NRA money