So, What Will Trump Do/Say In His Speech Tonight?

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IMO, Congress should consider that the USA could be viewed as an "attractive nuisance", too irresistible to the impatient adults and children who want to come to the USA from south of the border and do it now and illegally. Building more of the wall and adding the other security measures at the southern border, as put forward by President Trump, would show the USA has taken "reasonable measures to eliminate the danger [ of crossing Mexico into the USA illegally ] posed by the condition" of the attractiveness of the USA's prosperity and civil society.

Although the definition of an " attractive nuisance " usually applies to children, it could possibly be stretched to include adults, given the right lawyers.

This is taken for "howstuffworks" :

An attractive nuisance is an object, structure or condition that is both dangerous and irresistibly inviting or intriguing to children. Under attractive nuisance law, a landowner can be held responsible if a child is injured by an "artificial condition" on the landowner's property and all five of the following criteria are met:
  1. The landowner knows (or should know) that children are likely to trespass on the property.
  2. The condition on the property has the potential to cause death or serious bodily harm to children.
  3. The children involved are too young or inexperienced to understand the risk presented by the condition.
  4. The benefit of maintaining the condition or the cost required to remedy the condition is minimal compared with the risk to children.
  5. The landowner fails to take reasonable measures to eliminate the danger posed by the condition.

IMO, the Congress and President Trump owe improved border security, including the wall, to the citizens and legal immigrants in the USA .

This is only common sense and it is, after all, for the children.
 
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FirstRifle said:
IMO, Congress should consider that the USA could be viewed as an "attractive nuisance", too irresistible to the impatient adults and children who want to come to the USA from south of the border and do it now and illegally. Building more of the wall and adding the other security measures at the southern border, as put forward by President Trump, would show the USA has taken "reasonable measures to eliminate the danger [ of crossing Mexico into the USA illegally ] posed by the condition" of the attractiveness of the USA's prosperity and civil society.

Although the definition of an " attractive nuisance " usually applies to children, it could possibly be stretched to include adults, given the right lawyers.

This is taken for "howstuffworks" :

An attractive nuisance is an object, structure or condition that is both dangerous and irresistibly inviting or intriguing to children. Under attractive nuisance law, a landowner can be held responsible if a child is injured by an "artificial condition" on the landowner's property and all five of the following criteria are met:
  1. The landowner knows (or should know) that children are likely to trespass on the property.
  2. The condition on the property has the potential to cause death or serious bodily harm to children.
  3. The children involved are too young or inexperienced to understand the risk presented by the condition.
  4. The benefit of maintaining the condition or the cost required to remedy the condition is minimal compared with the risk to children.
  5. The landowner fails to take reasonable measures to eliminate the danger posed by the condition.

IMO, the Congress and President Trump owe improved border security, including the wall, to the citizens and legal immigrants in the USA .

This is only common sense and it is, after all, for the children.
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I seen what u did .. Fences AKA walls around swimming pools ...
 
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In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 violent killings. Over the years thousands of Americans have been brutally killed by those who illegally entered our country and thousands more lives will be lost if we don’t act right now. This is a humanitarian crisis, a crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul.

Last month, 20,000 migrant children were illegally brought into the united States, a dramatic increase. These children are used as human pawns by vicious coyotes and ruthless gangs. One in three women are sexually assaulted on the dangerous trek up through Mexico. Women and children are the biggest victims by far of our broken system. This is the tragic reality of illegal immigration on our southern border. This is the cycle of human suffering that I am determined to end.
 
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The Liberal and Demoncrat response to all of this is such a joke. Their reasons for not joining Trump is not only laughable, but down right scary.

These Assholes are leading this Country down, far below the sewer.

So Trump says Thousands are being apprehended daily. They respond with only an average of 1,087 each day -- hardly the "thousands" that Trump purports. This is their retort.

In the early 2000's annual apprehensions routinely topped 1 million. After hitting an historic low in 2017 of around 300,000, apprehensions increased in fiscal year 2018 to nearly 400,000. They think because the number is lower than the past, all is okay.

Trump stated "Sen. Chuck Schumer has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past."


This is correct but context is key. Schumer previously supported legislation to build physical barriers on the US-Mexico border. Most notably, Schumer and other Democrats supported the 2006 Secure Fence Act that authorized the construction of several hundred miles of fencing along the border, but not a wall. However as long as the government remains shut down, Senate Minority Leader Schumer and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have refused to offer any funding for a border barrier.

The difference between a fence and a wall is that you can almost always see through a fence, at least to some degree, while a wall is solid. So maybe we should build a wall with a few non-breakable windows.


Trump: "In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records, including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes and 4,000 violent killings."
Trump is using these statistics to paint the picture of dangerous criminals coming across the border. On balance the stats he cites are largely accurate, yet the fact is more than half of those crimes are non-violent in nature.

So because many of these crimes are non-violet, we should all be okay with the criminal activity.

These people hate so much, hate is all they see.
 
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So very true.

I think the democrats are blinded by hate and greed. They subconsciously hate our poor and struggling and would rather use our resources to buy new votes.

Why aren't they spending this 150 billion on inner city Americans living in poverty? It would make America better and stronger and we would be taking care of American citizens. Answer, because no matter what the dems do or don't do they are already going to vote dem. They would rather spend our resources on importing more new votes.

They are hateful power mongers not humanitarians.
 
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What's wrong with our inner cities can't be fixed with a check, no matter how large it is.

That concept is what the democrats are completely unable to understand, they think the solution to every problem is to throw more taxpayer money at it.
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I disagree. It would be fixed with a check/money. Pay for a wall around the cities and leave them, ala escape from NY
 
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