it is now legal in New York to have an abortion within 24 weeks of delivery

[SomeSoldier]

This is disgusting and vile. These people are the definition of evil. May there be a special place in Hell for them.

 

[Saltwater60]

Here is the WHO definition of health. So if a child will cramp your social health you can end its life.
This is truely disgusting and vile. I can’t believe they took it this far.

I think I read roe v wade garunteed the abortion u til 24 weeks so I can’t imagine this would stand up to a scotus challenge. At least I hope not. I think all abortion is vile, but 24 weeks and up a kid can pretty easily live at this point. Why not just deliver it and give it up for adoption. I can’t imagine aborting a baby at delivery stages.

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[Jsmegs77]

So for social, economic or mental reasons it's now OK to terminate up until and potentially after time of birth? Call a fucking spade a spade, this is legalized infanticide and there's no linguistic maneuvering that can say otherwise.

What's next? Lighting your political opponents on fire to light your garden party?


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[Bigfoot]

Gov. Andrew Cuomo directed authorities to use pink lighting to laud New York’s new abortion law.

Cuomo says One World Trade Center’s 408-foot spire, the Gov. Mario M. Cuomo Bridge,
the Kosciuszko Bridge, and the Alfred E. Smith Building in Albany will be lit in pink tonight
to celebrate passage of Reproductive Health Act.

One World Trade Center Lit Up in Pink to Celebrate NY Abortion Law

[Reproductive Health Act] also redefines “person” as “a human being who has been born and is alive,” eliminating the possibility of recognizing the personhood of an unborn child. During her presidential campaign in 2016, Hillary Clinton stated that “the unborn person doesn’t have constitutional rights.”

 

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NY bookstore owner closes for 'day of mourning' in protest of abortion law

 

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[Dr. Evil]

Lisa Thornberg is with Jordan Thornberg.
Yesterday at 1:34 PM

I have had so many mixed feelings about posting this, realizing the backlash I could be subjected to. I’m not sure my heart can take it if there is, but decided I need to stand for something here with this deep burn in my heart. All of the pro-choice and abortion posts have been making me physically sick to my stomach and shaking with anger. As you look at this picture and see my dead baby, do you see some inanimate object, not a human being that once had life? Why would we give him a name, have a funeral, bury his body, and memorialize a death of an inanimate object? Don’t you have to have life, to have death? Was this not a traumatic loss and meant nothing? Same goes for women who suffer early miscarriages. Are their losses insignificant because they weren’t considered “alive”? A heartbeat is life, and to end it on purpose is murder, and I’m going to leave it at that. I know there are so many sides to this issue and know there are special circumstances to abortion. We will never see eye to eye on this issue, but New York pushing to have abortions after the 1st trimester is just unbelievable. I tried to “snopes” articles I’ve seen posted, because I can’t believe this is really happening, but it is. My baby was stillborn at 40 weeks 6 days. He did not live outside my womb, but he was a human being that had a heartbeat up until then. He had a heartbeat, he physically kicked and moved inside of me. HE. WAS. ALIVE and I felt it! This is my son Micah. He changed my life. I hope he changes yours.

*Some have asked, and yes you may share. This is not a post meant for debate or hurtful comments, but to share awareness, and if it changes one person’s mind and saves one life, then I know Micah would be proud.

#prolife #stillbornstillloved #standingforsomethingorfallforanything #saytheirnames #missourmicah

 

[Dr. Evil]

Kermit Gosnell is in jail for doing what is now legal and applauded by the libs in NY. Let that sink in for a moment.

 

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[Acer-m14]

and is it by anyone .. that's how read it

praying a big multi lightning strike storm .. FUAC

 

[repete]

If were going to go "late term" then lets go ALL THE WAY! Yup lets allow abortions all the way to age 100, that way we can abort cuomo, and all the other left leaning shit bags in NYC!

 

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Sarah Wickline Hull
18 hrs ·

People are talking about the medical necessity of abortion to save the mother's life. I was one of those mothers.
I was diagnosed with an aggressive cancer that was cutting off my airway at 20 weeks of pregnancy. I will never forget when the first doctor, an oncologist, mentioned abortion. We had gone thru years of infertility to get pregnant. I knew I would rather die and give birth. Then I met with another doctor who listed all of the problems the baby would have if I did not terminate. I stood my ground and refused. He said, "That is ok. The baby will probably spontaneously abort anyway."
I searched and found good doctors that supported me, and I gave birth to a healthy baby at 34 weeks.
I will be celebrating 10 years cancer free in May. I have a healthy, beautiful, bright, precious 10 year old daughter who is a living reminder that doctors do not know everything.

 

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[Darth]

I dont care if or when anybody gets an abortion.I just dont think my tax dollars should pay for it.

This.

Clearly most here couldn't be bothered to read the bill, as usual.

But either way, nobody has the right to inhabit the body of another.

Fun Fact: Death does NOT occur when the heart stops beating. You'd think a "doctor" would know that.

 

[Dr. Evil]

This.

Clearly most here couldn't be bothered to read the bill, as usual.

But either way, nobody has the right to inhabit the body of another.

Fun Fact: Death does NOT occur when the heart stops beating. You'd think a "doctor" would know that.

I was repeating what the politician said OSPB. I'll check for the quotes on my diploma. Don't remember them there.

 

[Darth]

Did something in the rearview mirror distract you from your running away?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Did something in the rearview mirror distract you from your running away?

Nah. Once in a while I just need a good reminder of what a putz you are OSPB.

 

[Cleck]

My aunt was born at 24 weeks because of medical complications. She’s 40-something now.
A fetus is totally viable at this time. The fact that you can abort up to this time is medically irresponsible and straight up murder

I knew this discussion was going to come up and I am not posting to agree or disagree with any of your views on abortion. Do what you want, but that's not what this post is about.

This law is not about killing babies right up to their due date. MadScientist posted two important lines here and that's what is important. As he pointed out, a baby is viable at 23ish weeks.

From Googling viability stats: "According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500 g (17.6 ounces) to survive." So babies at 23 weeks are gonna have to go in the egg warmer for a while, but they will make it.

From the article, posted here "Such late-term abortions are rare. About 1 percent of abortions nationwide are performed after 21 weeks, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Here is the law as well (click link)

Yes, it does remove the penalty for having an abortion past the previously allowed mark, but since we established that nobody is getting them past that mark, what it's actually doing is making it legal for the few times that someone does need one. The article mentions a story about a woman who had to go to Colorado when she discovered that her baby at 31 weeks was not going to survive outside of her body, even after incubating or whatever other common medical practices they do to help babies who are born early or with defects.

This also protects women who have had a baby die inside them and the body has not passed it yet. Instead of carrying around a dead fetus inside her after 24 weeks, she can get it removed and not be penalized for it.

Again, this law is not being passed so that women can wait until they decide they don't want the baby at 30 weeks and they then kill the baby before or after removal. That baby, like MadScientist's aunt, is viable and will survive outside the womb.

Nobody is pulling a baby out and giving it a lethal injection or cutting its head off just because it's Wednesday. That's not how this works. This "late-term abortion" has too many people riled up who are already against abortion in the first place, and now think they're straight up murdering babies who can survive on their own.

As for the 1% of abortions being performed after 21 weeks, these are the "health of the mother" or "viability of the child" ones, not the "Oh, I changed my mind and I don't want this thing anymore. Suck it out." Those happen in alleys with coat hangers and aren't tracked.

Also important to consider: the term abortion has a different legal/medical meaning than the everyday use, much like "firearm" does. What we call a firearm and what the law defines as a firearm are different things, as we've debated here a few times (from what I remember). The medical use for an abortion is defined as, "inducing labor prior to viability." Viability is the key word there. It's being removed before it can live by itself outside of the body, which we showed up top as being around 23 weeks. When most people hear abortion, they think, "They're just going in and killing the thing." Removing a (naturally) dead fetus from a woman's body is considered an abortion just as much as going in at 12 weeks and removing a bunch of cells that haven't formed into a baby's body yet.

So again, nobody has legalized infanticide and I'm not going to tell you what to think on abortion, those are your views and we're all entitled to them. I just thought I'd bring some facts into something that I know a lot of people are fired up about.

 

[alistair]

 

[MadScientist]

I knew this discussion was going to come up and I am not posting to agree or disagree with any of your views on abortion. Do what you want, but that's not what this post is about.

This law is not about killing babies right up to their due date. MadScientist posted two important lines here and that's what is important. As he pointed out, a baby is viable at 23ish weeks.

From Googling viability stats: "According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500 g (17.6 ounces) to survive." So babies at 23 weeks are gonna have to go in the egg warmer for a while, but they will make it.

From the article, posted here "Such late-term abortions are rare. About 1 percent of abortions nationwide are performed after 21 weeks, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Here is the law as well (click link)

Yes, it does remove the penalty for having an abortion past the previously allowed mark, but since we established that nobody is getting them past that mark, what it's actually doing is making it legal for the few times that someone does need one. The article mentions a story about a woman who had to go to Colorado when she discovered that her baby at 31 weeks was not going to survive outside of her body, even after incubating or whatever other common medical practices they do to help babies who are born early or with defects.

This also protects women who have had a baby die inside them and the body has not passed it yet. Instead of carrying around a dead fetus inside her after 24 weeks, she can get it removed and not be penalized for it.

Again, this law is not being passed so that women can wait until they decide they don't want the baby at 30 weeks and they then kill the baby before or after removal. That baby, like MadScientist's aunt, is viable and will survive outside the womb.

Nobody is pulling a baby out and giving it a lethal injection or cutting its head off just because it's Wednesday. That's not how this works. This "late-term abortion" has too many people riled up who are already against abortion in the first place, and now think they're straight up murdering babies who can survive on their own.

As for the 1% of abortions being performed after 21 weeks, these are the "health of the mother" or "viability of the child" ones, not the "Oh, I changed my mind and I don't want this thing anymore. Suck it out." Those happen in alleys with coat hangers and aren't tracked.

Also important to consider: the term abortion has a different legal/medical meaning than the everyday use, much like "firearm" does. What we call a firearm and what the law defines as a firearm are different things, as we've debated here a few times (from what I remember). The medical use for an abortion is defined as, "inducing labor prior to viability." Viability is the key word there. It's being removed before it can live by itself outside of the body, which we showed up top as being around 23 weeks. When most people hear abortion, they think, "They're just going in and killing the thing." Removing a (naturally) dead fetus from a woman's body is considered an abortion just as much as going in at 12 weeks and removing a bunch of cells that haven't formed into a baby's body yet.

So again, nobody has legalized infanticide and I'm not going to tell you what to think on abortion, those are your views and we're all entitled to them. I just thought I'd bring some facts into something that I know a lot of people are fired up about.

Thank you for your clarification. I hope you are correct

 

[Dr. Evil]

I got to 3:15 and couldn't go any further. I really don't know how docs do that type of procedure and sleep soundly at night.

 

[Darth]

I knew this discussion was going to come up and I am not posting to agree or disagree with any of your views on abortion. Do what you want, but that's not what this post is about.

This law is not about killing babies right up to their due date. MadScientist posted two important lines here and that's what is important. As he pointed out, a baby is viable at 23ish weeks.

From Googling viability stats: "According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive. It is rare for a baby weighing less than 500 g (17.6 ounces) to survive." So babies at 23 weeks are gonna have to go in the egg warmer for a while, but they will make it.

From the article, posted here "Such late-term abortions are rare. About 1 percent of abortions nationwide are performed after 21 weeks, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Here is the law as well (click link)

Yes, it does remove the penalty for having an abortion past the previously allowed mark, but since we established that nobody is getting them past that mark, what it's actually doing is making it legal for the few times that someone does need one. The article mentions a story about a woman who had to go to Colorado when she discovered that her baby at 31 weeks was not going to survive outside of her body, even after incubating or whatever other common medical practices they do to help babies who are born early or with defects.

This also protects women who have had a baby die inside them and the body has not passed it yet. Instead of carrying around a dead fetus inside her after 24 weeks, she can get it removed and not be penalized for it.

Again, this law is not being passed so that women can wait until they decide they don't want the baby at 30 weeks and they then kill the baby before or after removal. That baby, like MadScientist's aunt, is viable and will survive outside the womb.

Nobody is pulling a baby out and giving it a lethal injection or cutting its head off just because it's Wednesday. That's not how this works. This "late-term abortion" has too many people riled up who are already against abortion in the first place, and now think they're straight up murdering babies who can survive on their own.

As for the 1% of abortions being performed after 21 weeks, these are the "health of the mother" or "viability of the child" ones, not the "Oh, I changed my mind and I don't want this thing anymore. Suck it out." Those happen in alleys with coat hangers and aren't tracked.

Also important to consider: the term abortion has a different legal/medical meaning than the everyday use, much like "firearm" does. What we call a firearm and what the law defines as a firearm are different things, as we've debated here a few times (from what I remember). The medical use for an abortion is defined as, "inducing labor prior to viability." Viability is the key word there. It's being removed before it can live by itself outside of the body, which we showed up top as being around 23 weeks. When most people hear abortion, they think, "They're just going in and killing the thing." Removing a (naturally) dead fetus from a woman's body is considered an abortion just as much as going in at 12 weeks and removing a bunch of cells that haven't formed into a baby's body yet.

So again, nobody has legalized infanticide and I'm not going to tell you what to think on abortion, those are your views and we're all entitled to them. I just thought I'd bring some facts into something that I know a lot of people are fired up about.

Facts are often not appreciated around here.

 

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OB-GYN Who Delivered Over 2,500 Babies Blows Lid Off NY Abortion Law: 'I Want To Clear Something Up'

 

[byron]

the dems were all against Brett getting on the supreme court becouse he would overturn Roe vs Wade I think he said that was settled law. but what Cumo just did he just might be pushing it back to the court hope it bites him right in the ass. mabey thier fears about kavanaugh will come true

 

[Cleck]

Facts are often not appreciated around here.

As long as they're posted, that's all I care about

 

[Darth]

As long as they're posted, that's all I care about

OSPB!

 

[Cleck]

OSPB!

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