Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
One of the highest tax states and behind to the tune of $800/head. Shameful.
New Yorkistans $6.1 BILLION dollar shortfall
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$30.3 billion for the MTA transit program.
This would be one of the first things to go.
This would be one of the first things to go.
Cuomo is looking to increase education spending by $1 billion, bringing the state's investment on education up to $27.7 billion.
This would and should be cut as well, a lot!
This would and should be cut as well, a lot!
$13 billion to improve and maintain State University of New York and City University of New York buildings as well as the state's healthcare facilities
Much of this should be taken out of the monies that these schools bring in. Stop wasting school funds on bullshit projects.
Much of this should be taken out of the monies that these schools bring in. Stop wasting school funds on bullshit projects.
Cuomo has vowed to pass the DREAM Act this year, a $27 million proposal what would expanding access to higher education to thousands of undocumented people living in the state.
If passed, undocumented students who graduated from high school or received a GED in the state would be eligible for Excelsior Scholarships — which already provide free tuition to thousands of low-income students throughout the state —and the Tuition Assistance Program and other state-administered scholarships.
This entire fucking thing should be cancelled!
If passed, undocumented students who graduated from high school or received a GED in the state would be eligible for Excelsior Scholarships — which already provide free tuition to thousands of low-income students throughout the state —and the Tuition Assistance Program and other state-administered scholarships.
This entire fucking thing should be cancelled!
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
ya, considering the Rochester City School Board (RCSB) seems to have "misplaced $30 MILLION, and now they are asking the state for MORE MONEY. now it seems the FBI is about to get involved.
He wants to add a tax on vehicles moving in congested parts of New York City, as a way to repair the city’s broken subway system.
How about the rates to the subway rise? Charge the people that use it more money. Charging those that drive more money to fix a different system? That is just stupid.
How about the rates to the subway rise? Charge the people that use it more money. Charging those that drive more money to fix a different system? That is just stupid.
The Democrats (and many republicans too for that matter) are pretty much just "legitimized" money launderers.
They collect tax revenue to be used in good faith for the greater public good but instead it's used to buy votes or to give kickbacks in the form of lucrative contracts on stupid projects etc..
I'm sure this will upset some on this site but I also don't think government employees should be able to be in labor unions. The concept of public sector unions has always bothered me in the regard that the taxpayers get screwed in the end. There is no alternative, no competitor. NY has one of the highest rated of public sector union membership.
They collect tax revenue to be used in good faith for the greater public good but instead it's used to buy votes or to give kickbacks in the form of lucrative contracts on stupid projects etc..
I'm sure this will upset some on this site but I also don't think government employees should be able to be in labor unions. The concept of public sector unions has always bothered me in the regard that the taxpayers get screwed in the end. There is no alternative, no competitor. NY has one of the highest rated of public sector union membership.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
The cycle of money in New York is pretty clear. It just buys votes.
Public works contracts to union labor that cost 10x what they do in other places (think: Second Ave subway, East Side access, Hudson Yards subway extension, $4b for a Tappan Zee bridge replacement that costs <$1 billion in the rest of the world). Public school teachers receiving incredibly generous pensions and retiree health care for working 9 months a year. Health care jobs protected from competition. etc. etc.
Then add on top generous welfare, Medicaid, CHIP, Head Start, Energy Assistance, free Metrocards, WIC, etc to influence the votes of the inner city poor and rural poor. Add billions in funding for the pet projects and crooked charities of our legislators that are used to buy more votes.
The problem is the private sector money to finance this cycle is finite, and is increasingly scare as the middle class leaves for better states. It won't end during Cuomo's term but there is a day of reckoning in the future to come. And in fairness, although the Democrats are worse abusers of this the NYS Republicans were not much better when they held the State Senate.
Public works contracts to union labor that cost 10x what they do in other places (think: Second Ave subway, East Side access, Hudson Yards subway extension, $4b for a Tappan Zee bridge replacement that costs <$1 billion in the rest of the world). Public school teachers receiving incredibly generous pensions and retiree health care for working 9 months a year. Health care jobs protected from competition. etc. etc.
Then add on top generous welfare, Medicaid, CHIP, Head Start, Energy Assistance, free Metrocards, WIC, etc to influence the votes of the inner city poor and rural poor. Add billions in funding for the pet projects and crooked charities of our legislators that are used to buy more votes.
The problem is the private sector money to finance this cycle is finite, and is increasingly scare as the middle class leaves for better states. It won't end during Cuomo's term but there is a day of reckoning in the future to come. And in fairness, although the Democrats are worse abusers of this the NYS Republicans were not much better when they held the State Senate.
Duke
.357 mag
no more empire state......FUAC state
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Just a thought experiment... suppose 15 to 20 million taxpayers just said FUAC and refused to pay ANY state taxes? 10 million? 5 million? What’s the threshold level?
Then the question is how do we make it happen? Suppose 5 million people pooled their presumed tax money into a common legal defense fund?
Then the question is how do we make it happen? Suppose 5 million people pooled their presumed tax money into a common legal defense fund?
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
State of New York Debt Clock
www.usdebtclock.org
He wants to beat California.
| State | State Debt 
| Local Debt | State and Local Debt | Gross State Product | Real State Growth | Popu- lation (mln) | ||
| All states combined | $1,190.4 | $2,118.1 | $3,308.4 | $22,409.7 | 3.2% | 331.9 | more | |
| California | $162.5 | $398.6 | $561.0 | $3,259.1 | 3.4% | 39.9 | more | |
| New York | $148.1 | $202.0 | $350.1 | $1,828.0 | 2.9% | 19.4 | more | |
| Massachusetts | $80.5 | $24.7 | $105.1 | $618.5 | 3.1% | 7.0 | more | |
| New Jersey | $66.1 | $29.3 | $95.4 | $677.6 | 2.8% | 8.9 | more |
spat
.700 Nitro Express
They are going to legalize it and then tax it so high that the black market remains intact.
Literally all the downsides of legalization and none of the upsides.
The whole point of legalization (from a practical as opposed to principle reason) is to crush the black market.
It would be like if when they repealed prohibition they put a $100/oz. tax on alcohol.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The system has been carefully constructed to prevent that.
The vast majority of taxpayers do not cut the state a check. Their employer pays and then they beg for some back.
You would either have to get your employer to stop paying, or we would have to all go in strike.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Ok, suppose 20 million people adjusted their W-2’s in a coordinated protest effort? I wonder what the shortfall would be then?
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Years ago one could doubt if legalization would work. Now we know it works and it could work in the US.
Portugal legalized all drugs and for years now heroine is down, crime is down, healt spend in drug related problems is down, etc...
One might not heavily tax this but since it is now legal people are on treatment schedules, health programs, etc.. sll design to improve on a problem they had that was huge and nothing else worked in the past.
It is like during the prohibition here. Things went south as soon as they made alcohol illegal.
Read about Portugal. Pretty intersting.