Muzzle device question

[Robin]

Planning my winter project, and was wondering. I know you can put anything but a silencer devise on your AR if the magazine is fixed. My wonderings are, does it still have to be pinned and welded?
Sorry to bring this shit up but its a FUAC world we live in.
Robin

 

[togmaster]

Only if the barrel is less than 16".

 

[Robin]

Thank's Tog!!!!!
Robin

 

[thegatman]

Wait. Why would a muzzleloader need a silencer?

 

[Robin]

I can't talk about it, mums' the word!
Robin

 

[Acer-m14]

just being a fluffy soft skunk here .. hay i'm just a little stinker LOL ...

does it still have to be pinned and welded?

is pinned and welded in the law ??

Only if the barrel is less than 16".

that too .. ??

FUAC ..

this works in the movies so i got a can for my BP Navy Colt to make it like this LOL

 

[Acer-m14]

Wait. Why would a muzzleloader need a silencer?

some need a silencer on the dang hammer when you pull it back .. .. when you forget to pull the trigger back while setting the hammer and the deer is 15 feet away .. CLICK!!! CLICK!!! LOL ..

 

[Marine Cpl]

When you will devise your own muzzle, will it be a 11° crown or a recessed crown?

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Suppressor. Silencer is a Demtard gun term.

 

[Robin]

When you will devise your own muzzle, will it be a 11° crown or a recessed crown?

I'm trying to devise a device? Er sompthin!

 

[camper4lyfe]

just being a fluffy soft skunk here .. hay i'm just a little stinker LOL ...



is pinned and welded in the law ??



that too .. ??

FUAC ..

this works in the movies so i got a can for my BP Navy Colt to make it like this LOL

Those aren't FUAC land regulations, that's federal.

 

[BDinPutnam]

just being a fluffy soft skunk here .. hay i'm just a little stinker LOL ...



is pinned and welded in the law ??



that too .. ??

FUAC ..

this works in the movies so i got a can for my BP Navy Colt to make it like this LOL

You can do it with the good ol' Moisin pistol.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Suppressor. Silencer is a Demtard gun term.

 

[Robin]

Those aren't FUAC land regulations, that's federal.

Okay, now I am at sea once again. With a fixed magazine and a barrel length over 16", is pinned and welded a legal requirement, federally?
Robin

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Okay, now I am at sea once again. With a fixed magazine and a barrel length over 16", is pinned and welded a legal requirement, federally?
Robin

Muzzle devices on barrels of certain lengths are a federal thing. On a 16" or longer barrel you can put whatever you want without being pinned. And if your state allows it. So silencers would be out in NY. Anything shorter and a device has to be pinned and must make the overall length of the barrel 16". So if you had a 14" barrel but didn't want to make it an SBR (also forboden in NY) you would have to pin/weld something to the barrel that is 2" or longer. This is federal.

NY is lame though so it has its own set of sub rules. I don't think you can even have a threaded barrel to begin with. At least not on a functioning gun. But if you permanently attach a device (pin/weld) to the barrel then you can put it on the gun. The federal rules still apply to this subset of rules. The magazine thing is all NY. And other commie states like CA.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Okay, now I am at sea once again. With a fixed magazine and a barrel length over 16", is pinned and welded a legal requirement, federally?
Robin

Pinned and welded is only a requirement if the barrel length is under 16" and the barrel device is necessary to get it to 16" OAL.

It's also the assumed method for "removing" the threading of a barrel under the "SAFE" act, but since you're fixing the mag, that's not an issue.

 

[ProgSpear]

this works in the movies so i got a can for my BP Navy Colt to make it like this LOL

Yup. That's a sure winner in a cowboy action setting.

 

[ManrisFrack]

NY is lame though so it has its own set of sub rules. I don't think you can even have a threaded barrel to begin with. At least not on a functioning gun. But if you permanently attach a device (pin/weld) to the barrel then you can put it on the gun. The federal rules still apply to this subset of rules. The magazine thing is all NY. And other commie states like CA.

You can have a threaded barrel on the weapon in NY as long as the weapon is: 1) not semi-auto OR 2) does not have a fixed magazine. All three of those conditions together make an "assault weapon" (with respect to rifles). Bolt action with detachable mag and threaded barrel - legal. Semi-auto with threaded barrel and fixed mag - legal.

Edit: "OR" used to be "AND"

 

[repete]

some need a silencer on the dang hammer when you pull it back .. .. when you forget to pull the trigger back while setting the hammer and the deer is 15 feet away .. CLICK!!! CLICK!!! LOL ..

You too?

 

[SomeSoldier]

Wait. Why would a muzzleloader need a silencer?

Why not.

 

[Robin]

I got another question, damn I hate this state. If you have an AR with the Thordsen stock so it will function with a removable magazine and no other scary features, can it have a muzzle device if it is pinned and welded?
Robin

 

[Calculon]

I got another question, damn I hate this state. If you have an AR with the Thordsen stock so it will function with a removable magazine and no other scary features, can it have a muzzle device if it is pinned and welded?
Robin

Nope - that’s a banned feature. A detachable mag with ANY additional feature is an AW.

FUAC!

 

[togmaster]

You will need a thread cap that cannot be easily removed or remove the threads altogether.

 

[96coal449]

You will need a thread cap that cannot be easily removed or remove the threads altogether.

Welded thread cap.
I'd like to weld a blue helmet to andy's head and send him down a long country road.

 

[@thewheels]

You will need a thread cap that cannot be easily removed or remove the threads altogether.

JB Weld? Red Loctite?

 

[togmaster]

JB Weld? Red Loctite?

That is my interpretation of the law. But I only slept in a Holiday Inn Express.

 

[Robin]

FUAC!
Robin

 

[96coal449]

JB Weld? Red Loctite?

No go......Heat will remove Red Loctite and epoxies are not considered permanent.

 

[@thewheels]

No go......Heat will remove Red Loctite and epoxies are not considered permanent.

Then the only option is a cut and crown

 

[96coal449]

Then the only option is a cut and crown

Or tig welding. A fake FH can be tigged in place as in the example of an M1A.