Still not getting it. A side function is not the same as a primary function. If said massage shop was shuttered and then operated anyway you would have your argument. They do not however. They operate in full view as a functioning legitimate business. What someone does in the back room is harder to regulate than the business being open in the first place. It is either open or it’s closed. The back room business only happens when it’s open. Everyone knows when it’s open. Nobody shows when someone is in the back room when it’s open.
Texas leads the way, Bars are going to open and defy the government
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spat
.950 JDJ
No, you're not getting it.
The rub and tug *is* their primary business. 99% of their revenue comes from it. If you went in and really only wanted a massage they would probably look at you funny.
If the bar owner puts price tags on his curtains and says it's an interior decorating business. He's still running a bar.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
spat
.950 JDJ
Not a whore. A brothel.
Some of them have been operating out of the same location for decades.
They get shut down every few years for a month or 2 in some sting, and then they open right back up again in the same location.
You guys are acting like criminal enterprises can't exist. Clearly they do. They always have and always will.
The only way to control any industry there is any demand for is to legalize and regulate it.
If you outlaw it, or your regulations are so onerous that the cost of evading the law is less than the cost of following it, you no longer have any control.
This isn't some wacky theory, it happens in every country every day in dozens of industries.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Sure but if it’s illegal to open your bar do you care if you buy it at the store and resell it?
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Well consider this too, setting aside the legality of it.
Reselling booze you bought at retail as opposed to wholesale / distributor is a losing proposition unless you mark it up beyond the already jacked up margin on booze in restaurants and bars.
Not sure. How many charges do you want?
Do you want a speeding ticket or a speeding ticket, felony unlicensed operation, no insurance (tow), no inspection, bald tires, obstructed view, misdemeanor reckless driving Etc etc etc?
Its your life. Do as you wish.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Ignorance is a major problem here Meke. I do not know if it has to do with a lack of education, plain tin foil hats being way too tight, or actually knowing the facts but saying otherwise to appear to be cool or tough to win arguments on here. Of course governments are taking advantage to further agendas. But because they do so for mail in voting as one example, that doesn’t mean that because it is being taken advantage of that this virus is nothing and just the same as the ones that are treatable with antiviral medications such as tamaflu or zpac. But according to them, every country is in on this grand conspiracy even ones who do not have to follow along or have no history of ever following along like Russia, ect. Even small countries that are total dicatatorships are following along according to the people here.
Many of the people here that talk fall into high risk categories being that they are in their late 50’s to 60’s or 70’s even. Many are diabetic and or overweight. Many have terrible diets and are on cholesterol and heart medications. Many get winded going up flights of stairs. Never mind the pneumonia you can develop from this if your immune system is weak. It’s all a hoax. No one dies from this despite people here actually seeing others die from this with no abnormal health conditions. Nevermind those that do survive but now have permanent damage to their bodies. Those aren’t counted in the death rates so it doesn’t matter. A big nothing burger until it actually affects them. When one of them or their 50+ year old spouses or family members end up in a hospital where they can’t even visit them, they will change their tune real quick. I attended 2 zoom funerals for fallen coworkers. The saddest thing ever. The first one that happened, the wife never saw her husband’s body at all after the time the ambulance showed up to take him away. He died alone on a ventilator.
Many of the people here that talk fall into high risk categories being that they are in their late 50’s to 60’s or 70’s even. Many are diabetic and or overweight. Many have terrible diets and are on cholesterol and heart medications. Many get winded going up flights of stairs. Never mind the pneumonia you can develop from this if your immune system is weak. It’s all a hoax. No one dies from this despite people here actually seeing others die from this with no abnormal health conditions. Nevermind those that do survive but now have permanent damage to their bodies. Those aren’t counted in the death rates so it doesn’t matter. A big nothing burger until it actually affects them. When one of them or their 50+ year old spouses or family members end up in a hospital where they can’t even visit them, they will change their tune real quick. I attended 2 zoom funerals for fallen coworkers. The saddest thing ever. The first one that happened, the wife never saw her husband’s body at all after the time the ambulance showed up to take him away. He died alone on a ventilator.
Yes Foundations and donors have huge influence! Follow the money! BTW cases don't matter, did you see the death rate the past 2 months in NY? Or are you going to ignore the 800lb gorilla in the room like MSM does?You guys are all over the place.
Someone writes something in a "whoknows" blog and that is presented as facts.
And where major donors are have nothing ot do with anything since those huge foundations are linked to hundreds of hospitals
and other organizations world wide. I guess it makes for a nice political argument and the promotion of sensationalist blogs
and other forms of opinion.
If you look at the JHU database is not perfect but it is pretty well maintained and so far the most reliable source.
The datasrouces have been verified by major MPP databases that give subscriptions to any organizations who need the data world wide.
The updates are done daily or weekly so there might be a lag and even CDC data in the us might be one week behind when the JHU database
has the latest actuals.
I am providing a few examples on how well this is maintatined in case someone is interested in learning something and some facts instead of pandering to the ignorant .
JHU gives a total for the States but also any Countries affected by the virus.
Here is Brazil.
New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.coronavirus.jhu.edu
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These match quite close the numbers from the Brazilian "Secretaria de Saude" (Ministry of Health) that are now pretty well maintained after June's scandal where they were delaying the updates to avoid panic and their health organizations found out and got burned so now they are updating on a daily basis.
View attachment 85886Coronavírus Brasil
covid.saude.gov.br
Here another example, this is Spain showing the curve and the nr. of cases and deaths and how it is spiking after the reopening of the
beaches and bars for the summer season (lots of cases in the Mediterranean coast and the largest cities)
New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.
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You go to an independent newspaper in Spain that verifies their data against their ministry of health (like our CDC)
and you have the same number. This is because JHU is connected to the reporting system in place for the hospitals in that country.
El coronavirus en España día a día y por comunidades: así evolucionan los casos, los ingresos y las muertes
Actualización de los principales datos a nivel nacional y por territorioselpais.com
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I suggest you guys watch this video and then reflect on it a little. The UFO situation applies to many subjects in life.
I was really hoping liberty lovers and firearm owners would challenge themselves a bit more than the people on the left with their tribalism and propaganda agendas. Maybe we are all the same, a polarized society with little interest in education and critical thinking,
Says Mr Sandy hook and Vegas conspiracies. Ignorance is one at this point that doesn't take in account deaths rates and why we still are playing this game while Rome burns. 4 deaths in all of NYS yesterday and you believe masks should still worn? So scared you are!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So if one conspiracy exists, all conspiracies exist. Or if one doesn’t exist, than all others don’t exist. Is that what you are saying? Is that how it is?
Scared has nothing to do with anything. When have I once said that I was scared? I’m in better health than most besides my smoking. I more than likely could survive if infected but those that I in turn infect may not. How about this. If I ever get infected, I’ll give you my address so that you can prove to all here how tough you are after you get infected.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Always going for the tangent exit provided by political justification.
Mortality is 4 times minimum the estimated mortality of the flu that is a non re-portable illness.
In case someone is interested in some illumination in this world of disinformation and complacency.
There are many other variables and environmental factors and that is why it is so hard to provide accurate inferential models.
There factors still being discovered but one thing is clear, In those places the mortality rate is going down is because of effective measures that are based in the traditional methods of prevention, tracking, early detection and early intervention. Same directives applied in other pandemic, control and eradication plans.
The retrovirals are showing great success when provided early w/o the need for hospitalization. We get this from the doctors themselves who are fighting this and we share the data with.
That is who countries like Taiwan, South Korea were able to tackle this from day one. It is no secret they were prepared unlike other countries
that were not.
One listening to this forums non-sense would think that it is ok to ignore the virus so we can just let a % die for no reason and because certain people do not want to follow some simple safety rules.
Learn something useful and read/listen to Dr. Brilliant who eradicated smallpox from the planet so one can learn how a disease works and how
is tackled and fought in order to achieve that needed heard immunity.
This is from 2007.
spat
.950 JDJ
You probably encounter several people taking that bet every time you get behind the wheel.
One listening to this forums non-sense would think that it is ok to ignore the virus so we can just let a % die for no reason and because certain people do not want to follow some simple safety rules.
Huh? Simple safety rules? The Country was locked down for this! How do you like the retracted numbers from the CDC? This has been a sham. 4 deaths yesterday in ALL of NYS yesterday! Thats 4!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You clearly didn’t read what he had to say or read it but was unable to comprehend it.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
was that including the I90 accident
Yep and we read about them everyday in the paper
Yeah I read it, comprehend just fine. He doesn't require a cheerleader. Carry on!
spat
.950 JDJ
And for every one you read about there are probably 10,000 others you don’t.
I've never driven without a license or insurance, but I've driven on an expired inspection plenty in my youth. You can get away with that for a very long time if you're careful.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Oh. Cheerleading. You mean like what you do to all of thousands of posts that you put likes to from our chiropractor that gets his information from Facebook?
Different when you’re fixed at 123 main st.
spat
.950 JDJ
Like all of these guys ?
Put in your city. Maybe there *is* one on main street.
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There's probably a few dozen other search engines just for them. They all have real businesses with fixed addresses, credit card machines, and everything else.
Already addressed. Not primary business. You are speculating what is gong on. Different than order to not be open totally. Open when not allowed VS open and doing things on the side. Not remotely close. Just like a company that bans ham sandwiches.. is different to detect someone eating ham sandwich in the closet VS business that was ordered closed and is open anyway.
spat
.950 JDJ
In what way is Prostitution not the primary business of places like this ?
E the massive
.308 Win
They don't make the national news "hey we are hookers". They keep it low key. These bars are making a statement a protest. Lousy business strategy because the crown will call their bluff. Give it a week for the "I lost my business" gofundme's. Again, freestaters are only as free as their leaders see fit.
Oh boy. Just stop.
People put likes on lots of posts. He has posted much more then Facebook posts. Try not to be so bitter because he is not Pro face diaper!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I’m not bitter. There you go using words again. Just pointing out your hypocrisy.People put likes on lots of posts. He has posted much more then Facebook posts. Try not to be so bitter because he is not Pro face diaper!
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
So it seems the solution to this would be to open massage parlors and have a speak easy in the back. Problem solved.
