US Army DID seize Dominion Servers in Germany

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tirwin1 said:
Fair point.

But what if there is an interview of a general on a site like democraticunderground and he says Flynn and McInerney are frauds and that he has evidence trump is going to declare martial law and appoint himself dictator for life? What would you say to those people? Most likely you would say the source has no credibility because it is an obscure left wing propaganda organization.

See the problem?
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That's not even slightly what's happening though. They've got multiple, credible sources coming forward. And they're coming forward with the potential repercussion of destroying their own name in perpetuity. These sources are career, highest ranking military leaders in this country. The accusations they're making are so incredible it sounds like a Robert Ludlum novel. They are coming forth because they know factually how corrupt the deep state is. How this treasonous act committed by a plethora of our highest elected officials will FOREVER change the fabric of our nation. We are talking about never, ever electing our officials again. Those 'elected' will be placed into office by themselves.

Our nation will be gone forever if Trump does not succeed in exposing and overcoming the coup d'etat these traitors are attempting.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Even if trump or powell provided evidence I am certain cnn would ignore it. At best they would have a panel discussion about how horrible it is that classified information is being leaked by trump. Cnn wouldn't cover the story even if it was provided in a comic book format so the morons at that station could understand it.

But talking to media organizations very few people have ever heard from isn't going to convince anyone. And if trump wants to stay in the white house he is going to have to convince an awful lot of people.
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Well, who he really needs to convince is just a single federal judge who can issue a bunch of arrest warrants.

If people with names you recognize start getting perp walked out of their houses, then things *will* have to be covered, even by CNN.

They will certainly twist it to say it's some outrageous overreach, but they will have to cover it.
 
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Phazer said:
Ummm.....our military forces engaged in a forceful raid on allied, sovereign, territory? Seriously?

I heard this last week. I'm still not seeing anything about this from any "credible" new source (whatever the hell that means nowadays).
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Yes. That's exactly what we're saying. And to make it even crazier the reports get even crazier that our government was essentially in a civil war fighting itself for control.

Yes. That's right.
 
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spat said:
Isn't that the definition of "buried" ?
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Kinda sorta. The hunter biden story was buried by the media. They actively suppressed information and cut people off that tried to talk about it.

They don't need to do anything active to ensure a story on creativedestruction.com doesn't reach the general population. I suspect the readership of that site is small and will stay that way. All the media need to do is ignore it.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Kinda sorta. The hunter biden story was buried by the media. They actively suppressed information and cut people off that tried to talk about it.

They don't need to do anything active to ensure a story on creativedestruction.com doesn't reach the general population. I suspect the readership of that site is small and will stay that way. All the media need to do is ignore it.
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I don't read that site and I've heard of it now.

Would the laptop story be less true if infowars were the first place to report it ?
 
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masterswimmer said:
That's not even slightly what's happening though. They've got multiple, credible sources coming forward. And they're coming forward with the potential repercussion of destroying their own name in perpetuity. These sources are career, highest ranking military leaders in this country. The accusations they're making are so incredible it sounds like a Robert Ludlum novel. They are coming forth because they know factually how corrupt the deep state is. How this treasonous act committed by a plethora of our highest elected officials will FOREVER change the fabric of our nation. We are talking about never, ever electing our officials again. Those 'elected' will be placed into office by themselves.

Our nation will be gone forever if Trump does not succeed in exposing and overcoming the coup d'etat these traitors are attempting.
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Incredible accusations on an obscure outlet. Don't you see the problem?

Some guy could promote my hypothetical story about trump declaring himself dictator with an enthusiasm that mirrors yours on this story. So who is correct? How do we determine who is correct? For me, the source of any story contributes to my decision whether to believe it or not. New obscure sources need to prove themselves to me. I try hard not to fall into the trap of believing every story I read simply because I agree with it.

(I'd bet my hypothetical is probably actually occurring on any number of lefty fringe sites).
 
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spat said:
I don't read that site and I've heard of it now.

Would the laptop story be less true if infowars were the first place to report it ?
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Less true? No.

But would I be skeptical until some other site picked up the story and confirmed it? Absolutely.

The key to me regarding the laptop story was the lawyer's note requesting the return of the laptop. Hunter couldn't deny it was his laptop if he dispatched a lawyer to get it back.
 
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Phazer said:
Ummm.....our military forces engaged in a forceful raid on allied, sovereign, territory? Seriously?

I heard this last week. I'm still not seeing anything about this from any "credible" new source (whatever the hell that means nowadays).
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It was on our own site in Germany. I had the same thought at first a few days ago .

The credible sources are General Flynn and McInerney .
 
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When you have constant censoring of just about every platform that is totally one sided what does that tell ya? How are all these different platforms all miraculous on the same page with their censoring? They are obviously getting their marching orders from somewhere.
 
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It was on our own site in Germany. I had the same thought at first a few days ago .

The credible sources are General Flynn and McInerney .
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And there was shooting? And friendly operative were killed? And this hasn't been an any "news" source...anywhere? Really?

Why would "military" have to seize servers from a civilian company? Who was guarding the servers? South American cartel irregulars? Seriously....WTF happened?
 
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WikiLeaks released a trove of CIA documents on Tuesday that it claimed revealed details of its secret hacking arsenal.

The release included 8,761 documents that it claimed revealed details of "malware, viruses, trojans, weaponized 'zero day' exploits, malware remote control systems and associated documentation."

The leaks purportedly revealed that a top secret CIA unit used the German city of Frankfurt am Main as the starting point for numerous hacking attacks on Europe, China and the Middle East.

Frankfurt base

WikiLeaks reported that the group developed trojans and other malicious software in the American Consulate General Office, the largest US consulate in the world. The programs focused on targets in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.


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CIA hacking base in Frankfurt - WikiLeaks

WikiLeaks documents reveal CIA agents were given cover identities and diplomatic passports to enter the country. The base was used to develop hacking tools as part of the CIA's massive digital arsenal.
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Phazer said:
And there was shooting? And friendly operative were killed? And this hasn't been an any "news" source...anywhere? Really?

Why would "military" have to seize servers from a civilian company? Who was guarding the servers? South American cartel irregulars? Seriously....WTF happened?
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Actually, if reports are believed Its entirely possible that some special operations and/or an electronic warfare intelligence unit was ambushed by CIA operators.
 
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tirwin1 said:
For me, the source of any story contributes to my decision whether to believe it or not. New obscure sources need to prove themselves to me. I try hard not to fall into the trap of believing every story I read simply because I agree with it.
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The SOURCE of the information are Generals McInerney and Flynn, not the rag that prints it or the website that airs it. Unfortunately at this time in history we no longer have a universally accepted, credible news source.

Your demand to have it aired on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS or any other leftist propaganda network does not remotely make it more credible or believable. Those days are long gone.
 
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During the Civil War President Lincoln suspended Habeous Corpus. Members of the Confederate forces who were captured thus had no right to be produced before a Federal Court. They were for the most part held in prison camps for the duration of the Rebellion. President Lincoln never declared war on the Confederacy, they were "States in Rebellion". In the Constitution only Congress can suspend Habeous Corpus. When challenged by the Supreme Court that he was acting unconstitutionally Lincoln responded that the Supreme Court had no standing to tell him how to act to preserve the Union. Lincoln, like every President before or since can use any and all resources of the United States to preserve the Union. Just as President Trump cannot allow a foreign force to march into Washington and impose a government upon us, he cannot allow a fraudulent government to be imposed upon us. His sole oath is to preserve protect and defend the Constitution.

There have been cases in our modern times when terrorists who are captured are not mirandized and no criminal charges are filed. Some have been held at detention centers such as Guantanamo for decades. There have been reports that the numbers of military guards have been increased at GTMO and other detention sites in the Caribbean just after the election.

I read a lot of history and I have never read of a coup or civil war getting resolved in court. Maybe charges get filed when it's all over, but a court has never determined the victor.

Sidney Powell's, the Generals Flynn and McKinerny's statements that intelligence agents, elected officials, and others with US Government credentials , have acted alone or in part or in complete cooperation and assistance with foreign governments , actors, or agents makes this the most extraordinary and dangerous incident, or purported incident in this Nation's history.

God Save the Republic.
 
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JaguarJaguarGolf said:
During the Civil War President Lincoln suspended Habeous Corpus. Members of the Confederate forces who were captured thus had no right to be produced before a Federal Court. They were for the most part held in prison camps for the duration of the Rebellion. President Lincoln never declared war on the Confederacy, they were "States in Rebellion". In the Constitution only Congress can suspend Habeous Corpus. When challenged by the Supreme Court that he was acting unconstitutionally Lincoln responded that the Supreme Court had no standing to tell him how to act to preserve the Union. Lincoln, like every President before or since can use any and all resources of the United States to preserve the Union. Just as President Trump cannot allow a foreign force to march into Washington and impose a government upon us, he cannot allow a fraudulent government to be imposed upon us. His sole oath is to preserve protect and defend the Constitution.

There have been cases in our modern times when terrorists who are captured are not mirandized and no criminal charges are filed. Some have been held at detention centers such as Guantanamo for decades. There have been reports that the numbers of military guards have been increased at GTMO and other detention sites in the Caribbean just after the election.

I read a lot of history and I have never read of a coup or civil war getting resolved in court. Maybe charges get filed when it's all over, but a court has never determined the victor.

Sidney Powell's, the Generals Flynn and McKinerny's statements that intelligence agents, elected officials, and others with US Government credentials , have acted alone or in part or in complete cooperation and assistance with foreign governments , actors, or agents makes this the most extraordinary and dangerous incident, or purported incident in this Nation's history.

God Save the Republic.
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Not sure if any god can save our once great republic.
 
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JaguarJaguarGolf said:
During the Civil War President Lincoln suspended Habeous Corpus. Members of the Confederate forces who were captured thus had no right to be produced before a Federal Court. They were for the most part held in prison camps for the duration of the Rebellion. President Lincoln never declared war on the Confederacy, they were "States in Rebellion". In the Constitution only Congress can suspend Habeous Corpus. When challenged by the Supreme Court that he was acting unconstitutionally Lincoln responded that the Supreme Court had no standing to tell him how to act to preserve the Union. Lincoln, like every President before or since can use any and all resources of the United States to preserve the Union. Just as President Trump cannot allow a foreign force to march into Washington and impose a government upon us, he cannot allow a fraudulent government to be imposed upon us. His sole oath is to preserve protect and defend the Constitution.

There have been cases in our modern times when terrorists who are captured are not mirandized and no criminal charges are filed. Some have been held at detention centers such as Guantanamo for decades. There have been reports that the numbers of military guards have been increased at GTMO and other detention sites in the Caribbean just after the election.

I read a lot of history and I have never read of a coup or civil war getting resolved in court. Maybe charges get filed when it's all over, but a court has never determined the victor.

Sidney Powell's, the Generals Flynn and McKinerny's statements that intelligence agents, elected officials, and others with US Government credentials , have acted alone or in part or in complete cooperation and assistance with foreign governments , actors, or agents makes this the most extraordinary and dangerous incident, or purported incident in this Nation's history.

God Save the Republic.
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Outstanding response.
 
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JaguarJaguarGolf said:
During the Civil War President Lincoln suspended Habeous Corpus. Members of the Confederate forces who were captured thus had no right to be produced before a Federal Court. They were for the most part held in prison camps for the duration of the Rebellion. President Lincoln never declared war on the Confederacy, they were "States in Rebellion". In the Constitution only Congress can suspend Habeous Corpus. When challenged by the Supreme Court that he was acting unconstitutionally Lincoln responded that the Supreme Court had no standing to tell him how to act to preserve the Union. Lincoln, like every President before or since can use any and all resources of the United States to preserve the Union. Just as President Trump cannot allow a foreign force to march into Washington and impose a government upon us, he cannot allow a fraudulent government to be imposed upon us. His sole oath is to preserve protect and defend the Constitution.

There have been cases in our modern times when terrorists who are captured are not mirandized and no criminal charges are filed. Some have been held at detention centers such as Guantanamo for decades. There have been reports that the numbers of military guards have been increased at GTMO and other detention sites in the Caribbean just after the election.

I read a lot of history and I have never read of a coup or civil war getting resolved in court. Maybe charges get filed when it's all over, but a court has never determined the victor.

Sidney Powell's, the Generals Flynn and McKinerny's statements that intelligence agents, elected officials, and others with US Government credentials , have acted alone or in part or in complete cooperation and assistance with foreign governments , actors, or agents makes this the most extraordinary and dangerous incident, or purported incident in this Nation's history.

God Save the Republic.
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This needs to be liked by every US citizen. This is magnificent writing
 
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Gen. Flynn Exposes Raid Of Vote Hacking CIA Facility In Germany: “They Committed TREASON” - Your News Wire

In an explosive new interview, General Michael Flynn and General Thomas McInerney reveal that a vote hacking “CIA facility” in Frankfurt, Germany, was raided by U.S. security forces. According to the Generals, the Special Forces [...]
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BOOM! Trump staffer claims, server raid in Germany was REAL!! – The Phaser

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