LEO Posts Video Discussing Why He May Not Renew Concealed Permit

[Steal2B]

Interesting video


A rookie officer draws on driver during a traffic stop just because dispatch confirmed the car owner had a gun permit

 

[Celt]

Cliff notes?

 

[dsdmmat]

Quite true. With more and more states going constitutional carry only communist states and travelers will have to deal with it. Of course once you had a carry permit you will always be marked as a gun owner even if you get rid of it.

 

[Steal2B]

Cliff notes?

Sounds like the man was in your head. The gentleman discusses

concerns about recent tyrannical abuses by government and

the ignorant misuse of data confirming a law abiding citizen as a concealed carry holder using an antidote of a rookie officer drawing at a traffic stop just because dispatch confirmed the car owner had a gun permit,, as well as

concerns of a background check for private gun sales.

 

[Celt]

I figured it was about being tracked, but wanted confirmation. Thanks.

 

[Uzi]

Another "brave" officer, a public servant of tyranny sharing his heroic story where he did the right thing. Us mere citizens should all be so impressed.

 

[Podmonkey]

I was considering posting this when I saw it awhile ago to. Stuff like this leaves me thinking qualified immunity is something that should go. If a cop pulls a gun on me for no reason other reason that I have a pistol permit I need to have a legal recourse to punish that. I will add however that I was pulled over outside Bedford once while carrying and tge cop ask if there are any guns in the car to which I responded that I have a Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms and thar I am carrying concealed on my hip. The cop pauses for a bit sonI add
"I always Cary, everyday sir" and he responds
"I don't blame you, I do too."
And there were no problems, didn't seem on edge or anything.

 

[Steal2B]

I assume that an officer unholstering their sidearm with little or no cause is a rare occurrence. The two times it happened to me in this country, both decades ago, were career ending decisions on the officers' part.

 

[GOPerfect]

I think it is, in a non funny way, hilarious the way some officers handle things.

So many are looking for trouble behind each and every lamppost.

If I were to ask if there were any guns in the car, it would be only to talk about the gun being carried. Would have nothing to do with my protection, just my curiousness and love of guns.

Too often, too many want to make a mountain out of an ant hill.

Stop looking for trouble!

 

[SomeSoldier]

I think it is, in a non funny way, hilarious the way some officers handle things.

So many are looking for trouble behind each and every lamppost.

If I were to ask if there were any guns in the car, it would be only to talk about the gun being carried. Would have nothing to do with my protection, just my curiousness and love of guns.

Too often, too many want to make a mountain out of an ant hill.

Stop looking for trouble!

I think reactions like that come from the training and having the mindset slapped into them of "fuck this guy I am going home". It's a good mindset for war but not for protect and serve.

 

[GOPerfect]

I think reactions like that come from the training and having the mind set slapped into them of "fuck this guy I am going home". It's a good mindset for war but not for protect and serve.

I wish more cops that are out and about each and everyday would improve their skills in reading people.

I may not be the best, no, I know I am not, but honing the skills of reading people is very important.

Not all citizens are bad, I would say the vast, vast majority are good and decent people and should be treated that way!

 

[SomeSoldier]

I wish more cops that are out and about each and everyday would improve their skills in reading people.

I may not be the best, no, I know I am not, but honing the skills of reading people is very important.

Not all citizens are bad, I would say the vast, vast majority are good and decent people and should be treated that way!

I don't agree when people say, everyone is good at heart, because if that was the case we wouldn't need laws. But I tend to think most people try to do the right thing because no one wants to lose time or money.

My NCOs learned fast that if they wanted me to really stop doing something, just tell me they were going to take my time or money, because corrective training only increases my PT score.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I wish more cops that are out and about each and everyday would improve their skills in reading people.

I may not be the best, no, I know I am not, but honing the skills of reading people is very important.

Not all citizens are bad, I would say the vast, vast majority are good and decent people and should be treated that way!

I took a course run by my local PD. Lots of good practical info. I asked one officer if they check to see if I have a CC permit if I was stopped and if it would alter his appeoach. His response was "I treat every encounter as if they are armed. Simply easier that way".

 

[GOPerfect]

I took a course run by my local PD. Lots of good practical info. I asked one officer if they check to see if I have a CC permit if I was stopped and if it would alter his appeoach. His response was "I treat every encounter as if they are armed. Simply easier that way".

And that is okay.

In my private life, I assume that evil surrounds me. Does not mean I am going to treat all around me like an asshole.

Well, I do treat most pretty poorly, but that is due to me wanting my social credit score to be negative

 

[spat]

I don't agree when people say, everyone is good at heart, because if that was the case we wouldn't need laws. But I tend to think most people try to do the right thing because no one wants to lose time or money.

My NCOs learned fast that if they wanted me to really stop doing something, just tell me they were going to take my time or money, because corrective training only increases my PT score.

The vast majority of people are pretty good.

People can frequently convince themselves that they are in the right when they're not, but actual bad actors are very rare.

But it only takes 1 or 2% to create the need for the whole law enforcement system.

Just like it only takes 1 or 2% in the LE population to cause massive trust problems.

Which is why I don't understand when cops downplay the concern citizens have about bad guys with badges. All cops know that they need to be on alert for every traffic stop, because you might get that 1% who would kill you to get out of a speeding ticket.

Well, citizens need to be on edge for the same reason. Chances are you'll get a ticket for whatever you were doing wrong and that's it, but you might be getting stopped by that 1% who will make shit up just to look good.

 

[spat]

I took a course run by my local PD. Lots of good practical info. I asked one officer if they check to see if I have a CC permit if I was stopped and if it would alter his appeoach. His response was "I treat every encounter as if they are armed. Simply easier that way".

Safer too.

The guy with the CC who is armed probably isn't the danger.

It's the guy who's armed but *doesn’t* have the CC you have to worry about.

 

[Truebeliever]

I think reactions like that come from the training and having the mindset slapped into them of "fuck this guy I am going home". It's a good mindset for war but not for protect and serve.

No, that mindset isn’t the issue. The mind set here is one of ignorance that is simply solved by one speech: “ hopefully one day, you will retired with a gun permit and will be on the other side of this stop”.
It’s just a fear of guns from someone who didn’t grown up with people with guns.