Politically Sanctioned Violence?

[pshift]

Here is a good read and some advice on how to avoid it.

The Very Real Danger of Politically Sanctioned Violence

One of the most important and least understood elements of self-defense is the social “landscape” in which self-defense takes place. If you’re puzzled about that statement, let’s go with a blunt trauma example. You are visiting rainy London and have the misfortune to be set upon by thieves, whom...

www.michaelbane.tv

 

[Blimey]

Good read. Absolutely right if you see a group like this leave immediately. If i were in the middle of my last bites of a dish I'd leave and tell the restaurant I will call them later to pay the bill. I'm out. Also do not verbally engage. You may as well be talking to a wall. Reason never breaks through the wall of self-righteous rage.

 

[Celt]

Justice is dead and has been dying. I know that genuine self defense, if you are not part of the "protected class" is an uphill battle and nearly futile if you are in a leftist cesspool.

Ive told this story before but a close friend I work with was involved in a jobsite fist fight in NYC about 2 years ago. The instigator/aggressor was black and the other guy white (race was not an issue before the fight). After attempts at de-escalation failed, the aggresor grabbed ahold of my friend and then hands were let loose. My friend came out unscathed and aggressor had marks on his face. There were many people supporting both people when the aggressor yelled at the black guys that were supporting my friend questioning why they were supporting a white guy, and their response was "hes more my brother than you". So the aggressor made it racial after he took his lumps.

Shortly after, the aggressor called the police and pressed charges EVEN THOUGH HE INSTIGATED AND PUT HANDS ON FIRST.

My friends company hired a PI to investigate the incident (a retired 1st grade NYC Detective, who also happened to be a minority). He determined that it was genuine self defense on the part of my friend. The court ultimately offered a plea deal to dismiss the case ACOD. The PI recommended to my friend to accept the plea and not go for a not guilty because he is white, the complaintant is black, the ada is black and he has seen the NYC courts are less likely to rule in my friends favor because they have an unwritten rule to "make up for past injustices". In short they lean towards the minority when race is involved regardless of facts.

My friend lost his CCW for nearly 2 years because of this bs of a biased justice system.

And this was before the most recent explosion of chaos we are in.

 

[Phazer]

Best way to survive a gun fight: Don't be in a gun fight.

 

[Rap]

Here is a good read and some advice on how to avoid it.

The Very Real Danger of Politically Sanctioned Violence

One of the most important and least understood elements of self-defense is the social “landscape” in which self-defense takes place. If you’re puzzled about that statement, let’s go with a blunt trauma example. You are visiting rainy London and have the misfortune to be set upon by thieves, whom...

www.michaelbane.tv

The opening paragraph is laughable:

"Justice is dead in America. The ideal of everyone being equal under the law is now a quaint relic of olden times. We are now all on George Orwell's animal farm, and the pigs have clearly stated that all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

Is the author aware that the Civil Rights Act became law less than 60 years ago? Some of you reading these words are older than that legislation. Exactly what "olden times" is he referring to? "Some" have always been more equal than others. What the author objects too, apparently, is the shifting political sands. Of course, these shifts were inevitable. It's easy to wish that "the past" could stay in the past, but the reality is that time is a continuum and what is going on today derives from what happened yesterday. Attitudes and relationships don't change with legislation and memories are long.

I'm going to read the article, dubious opening paragraph notwithstanding, and see what else he has to say.

 

[SomeSoldier]

The opening paragraph is laughable:

"Justice is dead in America. The ideal of everyone being equal under the law is now a quaint relic of olden times. We are now all on George Orwell's animal farm, and the pigs have clearly stated that all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

Is the author aware that the Civil Rights Act became law less than 60 years ago? Some of you reading these words are older than that legislation. Exactly what "olden times" is he referring to? "Some" have always been more equal than others. What the author objects too, apparently, is the shifting political sands. Of course, these shifts were inevitable. It's easy to wish that "the past" could stay in the past, but the reality is that time is a continuum and what is going on today derives from what happened yesterday. Attitudes and relationships don't change with legislation and memories are long.

I'm going to read the article, dubious opening paragraph notwithstanding, and see what else he has to say.

Please expand on your thoughts as to why you think justice is still equal?

 

[Celt]

Please expand on your thoughts as to why you think justice is still equal?

I believe his point is that it wasnt always equal. In many parts of the country black people werent treated equally, at least to the extent where there were crimes committed when both black and white people were involved.

The intent was for justice to be blind, innocent until proven guilty, and fair/speedy trials. By and large that may have been true but not entirely. Now, its less about race and more about political (fealty) ideology (although the media and the left want to make it about race to keep the sheep fooled).

 

[Celt]

The opening paragraph is laughable:

"Justice is dead in America. The ideal of everyone being equal under the law is now a quaint relic of olden times. We are now all on George Orwell's animal farm, and the pigs have clearly stated that all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

Is the author aware that the Civil Rights Act became law less than 60 years ago? Some of you reading these words are older than that legislation. Exactly what "olden times" is he referring to? "Some" have always been more equal than others. What the author objects too, apparently, is the shifting political sands. Of course, these shifts were inevitable. It's easy to wish that "the past" could stay in the past, but the reality is that time is a continuum and what is going on today derives from what happened yesterday. Attitudes and relationships don't change with legislation and memories are long.

Fair point, if I were a black man I wouldnt be able to agree that we were all looked at as equal under the law.

Although I think this is looking at things a little differently. I think its coming from an ideological standpoint as a whole (not broken down by race, gender, age, sexual orientation, religion, etc).

I look at this article as how the pendulum has swung from a govt of the people to a govt that controls the people and who will govern. The ideology WAS that we were all SUPPOSED to be equal. We are all now under the thumb of tyrants without fairness for ALL of us (not just some of us).

There is a line from the movie "The Patriot" that I like where Mel Gibson says (ill paraphrase)

"Why should i give up 1 tyrant a 1000 miles away for 1000 tyrants 1 mile away?"

We are now facing 1000s of tyrants and we are all at their mercy regardless of what we look like.

Look at the Kyle Rittenhouse case. He is being persecuted for being a gun owning, self defense minded, independent individual. Race wasnt an issue in his case but his political ideology is.

 

[Rap]

Please expand on your thoughts as to why you think justice is still equal?

Do you mean unequal?
My position is that the law alone does not and cannot mitigate against racial (or other) animus. So basically if there is a will (connected to power), there is a way. Those in positions of power will advance their agenda and personal values however they can. Making everyone equal in the law books is an important step. Still, we are a long way from consistent application of the law. Tribalized, racial thinkers with axes to grind will selectively use the political and justice systems to fit the narratives running in their heads.

 

[Robin]

You mean, you cannot legislate morality. Something I have been saying since the 60's! Thats' why the civil rights act was a bunch of lacy adorned further enslavement for ALL of us! Just enforce, or as the case may be, not enforce the law of the land EQUALLY, commonly known as The Constitution of The United States.
More laws does not set a man free!
Robin

 

[Podmonkey]

If you have to put down a leftist just keep shooting until you are dead because you will receive no justice. Kill all that come for you.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Do you mean unequal?
My position is that the law alone does not and cannot mitigate against racial (or other) animus. So basically if there is a will (connected to power), there is a way. Those in positions of power will advance their agenda and personal values however they can. Making everyone equal on the law books is an important step. Still, we are a long way from consistent application of the law. Tribalized, racial thinkers with axes to grind will selectively use the political and justice systems to fit the narratives running in their heads.

I agree with your point, I thought you were trying to say that law was applied equally still. lol

 

[SomeSoldier]

If you have to put down a leftist just keep shooting until you are dead because you will receive no justice. Kill all that come for you.

Or just find a nice quite place to bury them. Make sure to dig the round(s) out first.

 

[Celt]

Or just find a nice quite place to bury them. Make sure to dig the round(s) out first.

Police your brass.

 

[Podmonkey]

Or just find a nice quite place to bury them. Make sure to dig the round(s) out first.

 

[spat]

Police your brass.

With todays ammo prices you may need to recast those bullets for later use....

 

[spat]

You mean, you cannot legislate morality. Something I have been saying since the 60's! Thats' why the civil rights act was a bunch of lacy adorned further enslavement for ALL of us! Just enforce, or as the case may be, not enforce the law of the land EQUALLY, commonly known as The Constitution of The United States.
More laws does not set a man free!
Robin

The best way to eliminate inequality under the law is to reduce the number of things it prohibits.


A law that doesn’t exist can't be applied unequally.

If it's not absolutely necessary to maintain society, then it aught not to be a law.

 

[libertysnake]

Justice is dead and has been dying. I know that genuine self defense, if you are not part of the "protected class" is an uphill battle and nearly futile if you are in a leftist cesspool.

Ive told this story before but a close friend I work with was involved in a jobsite fist fight in NYC about 2 years ago. The instigator/aggressor was black and the other guy white (race was not an issue before the fight). After attempts at de-escalation failed, the aggresor grabbed ahold of my friend and then hands were let loose. My friend came out unscathed and aggressor had marks on his face. There were many people supporting both people when the aggressor yelled at the black guys that were supporting my friend questioning why they were supporting a white guy, and their response was "hes more my brother than you". So the aggressor made it racial after he took his lumps.

Shortly after, the aggressor called the police and pressed charges EVEN THOUGH HE INSTIGATED AND PUT HANDS ON FIRST.

My friends company hired a PI to investigate the incident (a retired 1st grade NYC Detective, who also happened to be a minority). He determined that it was genuine self defense on the part of my friend. The court ultimately offered a plea deal to dismiss the case ACOD. The PI recommended to my friend to accept the plea and not go for a not guilty because he is white, the complaintant is black, the ada is black and he has seen the NYC courts are less likely to rule in my friends favor because they have an unwritten rule to "make up for past injustices". In short they lean towards the minority when race is involved regardless of facts.

My friend lost his CCW for nearly 2 years because of this bs of a biased justice system.

And this was before the most recent explosion of chaos we are in.

This is why we must band together. To oppress one person is easy. To oppress thousands standing side by side is harder and looks worse.

 

[Celt]

This is why we must band together. To oppress one person is easy. To oppress thousands standing side by side is harder and looks worse.

The people on the left that are rioting and protesting are angry about govt tyranny, so are we. The problem is that the media has demonized white people to keep us divided, they have also convinced those on the left that a bigger govt and more laws is how to fight that, when we all know the opposite is true. If more people could look past race and unite for the common goal of squashing tyranny we would be a massive force to be reckoned with.

 

[prambo]

It's discussions like this that make me wish I'd never left East Africa, no matter what I had to do to stay.

This country is so messed up, only a huge meteor hit could fix it.

The fUSA may "exist", but it has become "Klown World".

Frankly, my dear, I'd rather be in an Ethiopian honey beer bar, slamming back tej by the liter.

Almost at the finish line, but not quite.......................................

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Here is a good read and some advice on how to avoid it.

The Very Real Danger of Politically Sanctioned Violence

One of the most important and least understood elements of self-defense is the social “landscape” in which self-defense takes place. If you’re puzzled about that statement, let’s go with a blunt trauma example. You are visiting rainy London and have the misfortune to be set upon by thieves, whom...

www.michaelbane.tv

So true. We've been saying this for some time now

 

[Rap]

It's discussions like this that make me wish I'd never left East Africa, no matter what I had to do to stay.

This country is so messed up, only a huge meteor hit could fix it.

The fUSA may "exist", but it has become "Klown World".

Frankly, my dear, I'd rather be in an Ethiopian honey beer bar, slamming back tej by the liter.

Almost at the finish line, but not quite.......................................

Tej is good stuff, end of the world or not!

 

[Rap]

I think it is nearly impossible for the author to be as ignorant of the history of this country as this article suggests he is. Instead, it appears he is purposely ignoring the blatant pattern of politically sanctioned violence that sprang from the cozy relationship between the KKK and local governments throughout the South.

His complaints about the Biden administration - whether accurate or not - describe how white "street justice" was meted out for the majority of this country's history.

Anyone reading this article and not immediately seeing the gaping hole in his argument is either simply going along for the ride or is dangerously ignorant about how we got to this point in history.

I don't disagree that the current administration is politicizing law enforcement/lawlessness. But that is a long established, deeply entrenched practice in the USA.

 

[prambo]

So true. We've been saying this for some time now

Very true - an excellent exposition on "self-defense" in Klown World - not being facetious, it is good advice.

The Antifa/BurnLootMurder bunch have won the battle for which they were created - severing as many good connections between blocks and whites as possible, by any means possible.

But what are Antifa/BLM? Are they "civil rights" organizations, or advocates for equality before the law, or are they there to "protect" and "represent" their 'hoods?

They're none of these.

They have neither the eloquence of MLK, Jr., the laser like brain and thought processes of Malcolm nor the commitment of H. Rap Brown and Stokely Carmichael.

And they certainly don't have the eloquence, focus, and commitment to point of death as Steve Biko - IMHO one of the greatest leaders, black or white, to ever exist.

Neither of these groups can live up to any of those standards, nor were they intended to do so.

So what are they? They are the new "Brown Shirts" - das neue Sturmabteilung.

Who, exactly, do they work for?

Are they an autonomous, self-funded group who have had their fill of what they see as injustice?

No, they're backed by the very "powers" that they strenuously declare they want to destroy - big money, big power globalists.

And when their usefulness is gone, they will go the way of the SA - their own "Night of the Long Knives".

They will be replaced by the newly vetted and cleansed National Guard and military. A new Schutzstaffel, as it were.

They're close to completing their task. Most of us won't go near the larger cities anymore.

I'll never meet my new VA primary because I won't go any closer to Syracuse than Liverpool or Marcellus.

America is dead. The fascist/corporatist cabal are consolidating their power at an astounding rate.

Antifa/BLM have done their job. The courts - ALL levels - are neutered, law enforcement is hamstrung by Marxist pols, and the majority of the people are
semi-functioning morons.

 

[livingston]

If justice was equal Ted Kennedy would have done 20 years and this country would have never been in this immigration situation we see today.
Does it matter if one is black and the killer gets off scott free or a kennedy fuck toy.. her killer gets off scott free. . Boils down to same injustice. One that will never get fixed. Money talks and judges get paid off ... Been like that forever.

 

[spat]

I think it is nearly impossible for the author to be as ignorant of the history of this country as this article suggests he is. Instead, it appears he is purposely ignoring the blatant pattern of politically sanctioned violence that sprang from the cozy relationship between the KKK and local governments throughout the South.

His complaints about the Biden administration - whether accurate or not - describe how white "street justice" was meted out for the majority of this country's history.

Anyone reading this article and not immediately seeing the gaping hole in his argument is either simply going along for the ride or is dangerously ignorant about how we got to this point in history.

I don't disagree that the current administration is politicizing law enforcement/lawlessness. But that is a long established, deeply entrenched practice in the USA.

Our history is truly as ugly as you say.

I thought we had gotten past that.

But if people are going to insist on bringing it back, then you need to make sure you are on the winning side of it.


Lots of people are in favor of oppression when they think they're going to be the oppressor.