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Troops Sent to Help Evacuate US Embassy in Afghanistan; Joe Biden's Words Come Back to Haunt Him
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Biden lied, there was no plan to save allies who would be slaughtered for helping us. Biden's gang stopped those efforts months ago for fear of the political optics and decided to sacrifice their lives to avoid a news cycle of bad PR months ago. Now it is a last minute panic to save a handful, leaving tens of thousands to torture and death . The media knows and is giving the asshole a pass.
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Fmr CIA Analyst Zeller: Biden Lied, No Plan to Stop Allies Being Slaughtered by 'Nazi' Taliban
Former CIA analyst Matt Zeller told MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace Monday on her show "Deadline" that President Joe Biden lied to the American people during his address on the chaotic evacuation of Afghans that worked with our military over the last 20 years. | Clips
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Uninformed and Compliant
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We are involved in the bankers wars in the Middle East and have been for decades.
We have been involved in every conflict since backing the US dollar with petrol.
Big dog and pony show. Nothing to see here.
They show us what they want us to see.
We have been involved in every conflict since backing the US dollar with petrol.
Big dog and pony show. Nothing to see here.
They show us what they want us to see.
BerettaGuy
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Unbel
Wow! The Biden Administration, Bidens CIA, couldn't be bothered.
MSNBC Contributor Tells Propaganda Network We Must Have Watched a Different Speech - The Last Refuge
Former Central Intelligence Agency analyst Matt Zeller appears on MSNBC as Brian Williams was singing the praises of Dear Leader Joe Biden for his magnificent words and exceptional work on Afghanistan. Unfortunately for MSNBC, Mr. Zeller stunned the Baghdad Bob network by saying: “I was...theconservativetreehouse.com
Former Central Intelligence Agency analyst Matt Zeller appears on MSNBC as Brian Williams was singing the praises of Dear Leader Joe Biden for his magnificent words and exceptional work on Afghanistan. Unfortunately for MSNBC, Mr. Zeller stunned the Baghdad Bob network by saying: “I was appalled” by President Joe Biden’s Afghanistan speech, it was a lie.” WATCH:
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Taliban Frees Thousands of Terrorist Prisoners Who Had Been Held by US Forces
Hardened terrorists by the hundred have been freed in the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan, stirring fears for America's security.
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He didn't move up the timeline. Trumps timeliness was May 1, so that's not the cause.
Trumps own words and verbatim quote: "I made early withdraw possible by already pulling much of our billions of dollars of equipment out and, more importantly, reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops from the 16,000 level that was there (likewise in Iraq, and zero troops in Syria except for the area where we KEPT THE OIL)"
To Trump's credit he was pulling out of Afghanistan as promised. Biden for sure has bungled a lot on this issue (why didn't he get the diplomats and civis out before withdrawl is one very fair question and one I want an answer on as well) but some of your criticisms are flat out incorrect.
To be fair he also looks incompetent.Yes they are.
Not good. Not good at all.
I'm not a genius but terrorists having the ability to shoot down commercial or military aircraft is a recipe for disaster. It's a good thing we have our borders secured....
This dude with his stinger squad look friendly. Nothing to see here move along.
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Doc8404
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you are somewhat correct about the timeline. What else did I miss speak on? Nothing. Trump could cure cancer and you would still complain about him.
Biden planned on a 9/11 withdrawal.Ummmm have we gotten there yet?
What am I going to do about mistreatment of Afghans by other Afghans? Absolutely nothing. Maybe it's not popular around here, but I don't care about Afghanistan one way or the other. Has nothing to do with me or America being weak, I just don't care about Afghanistan. Why risk your neck for something you don't care about... doing so would be illogical.
Doc8404
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they will bring the fight to our shores once again.
ignorant to think they won’t become a breeding ground once again.
Iirc Biden's plan was full withdrawl by 9/11 of the remaining 2000 troops (number cited from Trump's statement).
I give Trump credit for the things he did. It's no secret I don't like him, but I have given him positive statements when I think he deserved it. I let subjective criticism fly on personality judgements but I try to stay objective on policy items (someone can be a raging asshole, but still perform a given job well). If hypothetically speaking he cured cancer I'd certainly give him credit for that. He hasn't cured cancer though. Also, curing cancer would be great, but that alone would not make for a good president.
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so yes, the timeline was moved up. Without planning for evacuation of Americans and key personnel that have helped us.
You ignored that.
You misunderstand. I don't care about them. If they cause problems like you noted we take care of them, whatever means necessary. We've been too kind already.
Trumps plan - May 1
Bidens plan - Sept 11
Trump had his plan first, he was President before Biden.. Timeliness were moved back, not up.
Doc8404
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Let me clarify.
Biden planned on 9/11.
bam. A few days ago he pulls the plug.
I never mentioned Trump. He isn’t POTUS. People need to move on.
Biden planned on 9/11.
bam. A few days ago he pulls the plug.
I never mentioned Trump. He isn’t POTUS. People need to move on.
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Either way it's just a matter of semantics. The real and important issue is our (as in the US's) performance and withdrawl strategy. It has been piss poor at best. The diplomats etc. Should have been long gone by the time the military was beginning to leave. Afghanistan was going to collapse no matter what when the USA left it was just a matter of which presidents watch it would be under. The Afghanistan govt. was propped up by the US military, despite 20 years of effort they were essentially useless. There was no good outcome to be had.
Biden planned to be fully withdrawn by 9/11. That doesn't mean you can't start sooner or you couldn't be done on.... Say 9/10. We have not reached full withdrawl yet.
Either way it's just a matter of semantics. The real and important issue is our (as in the US's) performance and withdrawl strategy. It has been piss poor at best. The diplomats etc. Should have been long gone by the time the military was beginning to leave. Afghanistan was going to collapse no matter what when the USA left it was just a matter of which presidents watch it would be under. The Afghanistan govt. was propped up by the US military, despite 20 years of effort they were essentially useless. There was no good outcome to be had.
Doc8404
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Agreed. Being there, they were lazy fucks.
never wanted to do anything other than eat. Smoke.
shit in the shower trailers.
never wanted to do anything other than eat. Smoke.
shit in the shower trailers.
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Where is antifa when you really need them?
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Around 11,000 Americans Remain in Taliban-Held Afghanistan: White House
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Surprised NBC didn't cut the feed during his rant and say, "We seem to be having some technical problems. We'll try and get him back up as soon as possible." BTW, Zeller was happy to vote for Biden. Wonder how many others have buyer's remorse. I know at least one who doesn't lol.Biden lied, there was no plan to save allies who would be slaughtered for helping us. Biden's gang stopped those efforts months ago for fear of the political optics and decided to sacrifice their lives to avoid a news cycle of bad PR months ago. Now it is a last minute panic to save a handful, leaving tens of thousands to torture and death . The media knows and is giving the asshole a pass.
Fmr CIA Analyst Zeller: Biden Lied, No Plan to Stop Allies Being Slaughtered by 'Nazi' Taliban
Former CIA analyst Matt Zeller told MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace Monday on her show "Deadline" that President Joe Biden lied to the American people during his address on the chaotic evacuation of Afghans that worked with our military over the last 20 years. | Clips
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kev74
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A MOAB on the presidential palace while the goat fornicating terrorist leaders were taking pictures would have worked almost as well.
Around 11,000 Americans Remain in Taliban-Held Afghanistan: White House
At least they are consistent with letting people "identify" as something they aren't, lol.
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Dates are irrelevant if the criteria for the withdrawal were not met by circumstances on the ground.
Apparently, intelligence agencies told Biden that such conditions for a withdrawal were not currently met.
Biden, in his demented state, appears to have said, "Fuck it! I said get us out. I'm the President! Do it now. "
Around 11,000 Americans Remain in Taliban-Held Afghanistan: White House
There are thousands of Americans who couldn't get to the airports quickly enough.
Then at some point the state dept. Issued a "shelter in place" message.
There are thousands of Americans who are totally fubar'd right now and their only hope is to be rescued in hundreds of high risk rescue operations if we can even find them all.
It's completely unforgivable.
Even still we could have had a much more orderly withdrawal.
We could have ordered all US citizens out weeks and months ago while the country was still somewhat stable and we had assets to facilitate and ensure a smooth and orderly exit.
Same goes for the Afghanis we were going to save.
It's completely inexcusable the shit show that was created by following a joke of plan to orderly leave. It's just so outrageous.
Oh I agree 100% hency why on a later post I said: Either way it's just a matter of semantics. The real and important issue is our (as in the US's) performance and withdrawl strategy. It has been piss poor at best.
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